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XT11 TU53
Fire Star 8th battalion
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Posted - 2015.11.08 04:24:00 -
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I speak as one of the last suicide LAV drivers. There are many bugs that cause RE's to not detonate when you ram a tank at top speed. So, why not have them all just automatically blow up when they're 1-2 meters from a vehicle. With this in effect, if you don't hit them straight on you instantly die with no reward. Plus, you have to reach that tank without getting killed; hard enough. This has no benefit other than a tank kill, the driver now has a 100% chance of dying but a 30% higher chance of wrecking a tank.
Caldari: "Get railed"
Amarr: "I'ma firin' my laser, Blaaah!"
Minmatar: "Here comes the BOOM!"
Galente: "Got my eyes on U
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Tread Loudly 2
Th3.Immortals
169
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Posted - 2015.11.08 04:28:00 -
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XT11 TU53 wrote:I speak as one of the last suicide LAV drivers. There are many bugs that cause RE's to not detonate when you ram a tank at top speed. So, why not have them all just automatically blow up when they're 1-2 meters from a vehicle. With this in effect, if you don't hit them straight on you instantly die with no reward. Plus, you have to reach that tank without getting killed; hard enough. This has no benefit other than a tank kill, the driver now has a 100% chance of dying but a 30% higher chance of wrecking a tank.
So you want an even greater chance to kill a tank which costs well over 500x what your suicide jeeps costs
 not this shenanigans again
We're coming for you. You know who you are. And you know you have no chance.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 05:24:00 -
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XT11 TU53 wrote:I speak as one of the last suicide LAV drivers. There are many bugs that cause RE's to not detonate when you ram a tank at top speed. So, why not have them all just automatically blow up when they're 1-2 meters from a vehicle. With this in effect, if you don't hit them straight on you instantly die with no reward. Plus, you have to reach that tank without getting killed; hard enough. This has no benefit other than a tank kill, the driver now has a 100% chance of dying but a 30% higher chance of wrecking a tank.
As the self proclaimed "Best Jihaad in the business!" I have to disagree, they work brilliantly... Any changes would be unwelcome to me.
Tread Loudly 2 wrote:So you want an even greater chance to kill a tank which costs well over 500x what your suicide jeeps costs not this shenanigans again
Not a great price comparison, as 0 times 500 is still 0... Thankyou to the gods of strongboxes for their blueprint LAV goodness! |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.11.08 05:30:00 -
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CCP Makes REs detonate within 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player enters FacWar.
Clever player calls in LAV.
Clever player pulls out REs.
Clever player walks up to LAV.
Clever player tosses RE onto hood of LAV.
RE detonates because it is witthin 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player liquefies from explosion.
HAV pilot giggles and drives through the puddle of biomass.
Yes....yes....this is a great idea. CCP please implement new ways for players to blow themselves up.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
146
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Posted - 2015.11.08 12:03:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Makes REs detonate within 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player enters FacWar.
Clever player calls in LAV.
Clever player pulls out REs.
Clever player walks up to LAV.
Clever player tosses RE onto hood of LAV.
RE detonates because it is witthin 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player liquefies from explosion.
HAV pilot giggles and drives through the puddle of biomass.
Yes....yes....this is a great idea. CCP please implement new ways for players to blow themselves up.
Was wondering if anyone else would point this out
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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XT11 TU53
Fire Star 8th battalion
15
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:14:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Makes REs detonate within 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player enters FacWar.
Clever player calls in LAV.
Clever player pulls out REs.
Clever player walks up to LAV.
Clever player tosses RE onto hood of LAV.
RE detonates because it is witthin 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player liquefies from explosion.
HAV pilot giggles and drives through the puddle of biomass.
Yes....yes....this is a great idea. CCP please implement new ways for players to blow themselves up.
If this is how things work then swarms would target blue and red vehicles and proximity explosives (which already blow up when a vehicle is near) would blow up blue vehicles yet, they do not. So, they would blow up only when a red vehicle is near. Actually, it might be better to allow proximity explosives be thrown so they can be placed on a LAV.
1 LAV is about (for me) 250,000 (plus a 10,000 suit) can 1 shot any tank (excluding glitched tanks) which are up to 3 million maybe.
Caldari: "Get railed"
Amarr: "I'ma firin' my laser, Blaaah!"
Minmatar: "Here comes the BOOM!"
Galente: "Got my eyes on U
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XT11 TU53
Fire Star 8th battalion
15
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:18:00 -
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:XT11 TU53 wrote:I speak as one of the last suicide LAV drivers. There are many bugs that cause RE's to not detonate when you ram a tank at top speed. So, why not have them all just automatically blow up when they're 1-2 meters from a vehicle. With this in effect, if you don't hit them straight on you instantly die with no reward. Plus, you have to reach that tank without getting killed; hard enough. This has no benefit other than a tank kill, the driver now has a 100% chance of dying but a 30% higher chance of wrecking a tank. So you want an even greater chance to kill a tank which costs well over 500x what your suicide jeeps costs not this shenanigans again
Not just tanks now. Dropships and LAV's too. Ramming an LAV is near impossible because a sentinel can jump out and kill you. With dropships, whenever I ram one it never explodes. Plus, I want to take up Dropship suicide bombing, drop them on tanks or ram other dropship.
Caldari: "Get railed"
Amarr: "I'ma firin' my laser, Blaaah!"
Minmatar: "Here comes the BOOM!"
Galente: "Got my eyes on U
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
140
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:33:00 -
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theres a thing called proximity re.... re is designed for killing ppl not tank.....
just found cal assault op^^
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:53:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:theres a thing called proximity re.... re is designed for killing ppl not tank.....
But no one uses proxies because they warn tanks beforehand, and because of BW.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
159
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Posted - 2015.11.10 04:53:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:theres a thing called proximity re.... re is designed for killing ppl not tank.....
so why have all the nerf re threads been from an anti infantry context?
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.11.10 11:17:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:theres a thing called proximity re.... re is designed for killing ppl not tank..... But no one uses proxies because they warn tanks beforehand, and because of BW.
I use proxies and their BW is unnoticeable because it's so small that I can lay a trap with PRO and ADV proxies and then use links and hives and still have my mines active .
If you don't like BW then that's something else but the fact that proxies have such a low number it's just not worth mentioning BW as a factor of their non usage is just misleading .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.10 12:35:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Makes REs detonate within 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player enters FacWar.
Clever player calls in LAV.
Clever player pulls out REs.
Clever player walks up to LAV.
Clever player tosses RE onto hood of LAV.
RE detonates because it is witthin 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player liquefies from explosion.
HAV pilot giggles and drives through the puddle of biomass.
Yes....yes....this is a great idea. CCP please implement new ways for players to blow themselves up.
player walks up to tank with re in hand and goes to toss it it explodes as soon as player throws it due to it and the player both being within 2 meters killing player instantly lol u clearly didn't think this one through not surprising considering your a jihaad
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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XT11 TU53
Fire Star 8th battalion
15
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Posted - 2015.11.10 19:45:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Makes REs detonate within 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player enters FacWar.
Clever player calls in LAV.
Clever player pulls out REs.
Clever player walks up to LAV.
Clever player tosses RE onto hood of LAV.
RE detonates because it is witthin 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player liquefies from explosion.
HAV pilot giggles and drives through the puddle of biomass.
Yes....yes....this is a great idea. CCP please implement new ways for players to blow themselves up. player walks up to tank with re in hand and goes to toss it it explodes as soon as player throws it due to it and the player both being within 2 meters killing player instantly lol u clearly didn't think this one through not surprising considering your a jihaad
Packed REs can be thrown 10 to 20 meters. If you go up against a tank with just REs you're doomed to die. Plus, you would need to place about 6 on the tank and detonate them before it started moving, REs slide off tanks.
Caldari: "Get railed"
Amarr: "I'ma firin' my laser, Blaaah!"
Minmatar: "Here comes the BOOM!"
Galente: "Got my eyes on U
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.11.10 20:39:00 -
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XT11 TU53 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Makes REs detonate within 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player enters FacWar.
Clever player calls in LAV.
Clever player pulls out REs.
Clever player walks up to LAV.
Clever player tosses RE onto hood of LAV.
RE detonates because it is witthin 1-2 meters of a vehicle.
Clever player liquefies from explosion.
HAV pilot giggles and drives through the puddle of biomass.
Yes....yes....this is a great idea. CCP please implement new ways for players to blow themselves up. If this is how things work then swarms would target blue and red vehicles and proximity explosives (which already blow up when a vehicle is near) would blow up blue vehicles yet, they do not. So, they would blow up only when a red vehicle is near. Actually, it might be better to allow proximity explosives be thrown so they can be placed on a LAV. 1 LAV is about (for me) 250,000 (plus a 10,000 suit) can 1 shot any tank (excluding glitched tanks) which are up to 3 million maybe.
Why spend 250k on an LAV when a BPO one works just fine?
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:07:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:theres a thing called proximity re.... re is designed for killing ppl not tank..... But no one uses proxies because they warn tanks beforehand, and because of BW. I use proxies and their BW is unnoticeable because it's so small that I can lay a trap with PRO and ADV proxies and then use links and hives and still have my mines active . If you don't like BW then that's something else but the fact that proxies have such a low number it's just not worth mentioning BW as a factor of their non usage is just misleading .
I know another player who has BW issues with proxies, which is why I stated it. In which case it may not be a factor for all, but is a factor none the less. Perhaps it has to do with the number of proxies needed to be effective.
I do not have problems with BW as a whole, but I do think that in some niche situations it has had unintended consequences.
Besides, as I suggested before, it is merely one of a number of factors. BW may be wieghted less, but I don't think it is a non factor.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:10:00 -
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XT11 TU53 wrote:Packed REs can be thrown 10 to 20 meters. If you go up against a tank with just REs you're doomed to die. Plus, you would need to place about 6 on the tank and detonate them before it started moving, REs slide off tanks.
From what I hear packed REs often times do no damage.
Perhaps that has changed recently, but I know they increased the radius because of the problem, and I hear it was not effective.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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XT11 TU53
Fire Star 8th battalion
18
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Posted - 2015.11.11 00:18:00 -
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I spend 250,000 on a LAV because a tank one shots the bpo variant. I modified a quafe with HP boosters and a fuel injector. The injector lets you go from slow to max speed in cas you run across a tank when you weren't at top speed. Ramming a tank at non-top speed means it won't blow up (unless you get it to run over you)
Packed REs don't do damage... I'll replace my hive with another RE variant. Not like I'll survive a mad tank driver with "apex" type AR.
Caldari: "Get railed"
Amarr: "I'ma firin' my laser, Blaaah!"
Minmatar: "Here comes the BOOM!"
Galente: "Got my eyes on U
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.11.13 01:05:00 -
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XT11 TU53 wrote:I spend 250,000 on a LAV because a tank one shots the bpo variant. I modified a quafe with HP boosters and a fuel injector. The injector lets you go from slow to max speed in cas you run across a tank when you weren't at top speed. Ramming a tank at non-top speed means it won't blow up (unless you get it to run over you)
Packed REs don't do damage... I'll replace my hive with another RE variant. Not like I'll survive a mad tank driver with "apex" type AR.
Pfffft that's what BPO Vehicle modules are for!
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Tread Loudly 2
Th3.Immortals
185
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Posted - 2015.11.13 03:13:00 -
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XT11 TU53 wrote:I spend 250,000 on a LAV because a tank one shots the bpo variant. I modified a quafe with HP boosters and a fuel injector. The injector lets you go from slow to max speed in cas you run across a tank when you weren't at top speed. Ramming a tank at non-top speed means it won't blow up (unless you get it to run over you)
Packed REs don't do damage... I'll replace my hive with another RE variant. Not like I'll survive a mad tank driver with "apex" type AR.
My full proto battle LAV costs 196k with a turret so at most you're at about 150k but you have a quafe frame so about 123k?
We're coming for you. You know who you are. And you know you have no chance.
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Garcon lyfe
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
87
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Posted - 2015.11.13 16:58:00 -
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or we could take away the dam beeping sound from anti-vehicle re and boom there useful to pooint as they can still be scanned but hey at least you have a better chance, if there scanned then well **** you were out of luck anyway!
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
928
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Posted - 2015.11.14 06:14:00 -
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id rather just stick res on my self and run towards the big group of redberries. or said vehicle.
great potential is always there..
it just has yet to be realized
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2
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Posted - 2015.11.16 07:31:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:XT11 TU53 wrote:I spend 250,000 on a LAV because a tank one shots the bpo variant. I modified a quafe with HP boosters and a fuel injector. The injector lets you go from slow to max speed in cas you run across a tank when you weren't at top speed. Ramming a tank at non-top speed means it won't blow up (unless you get it to run over you)
Packed REs don't do damage... I'll replace my hive with another RE variant. Not like I'll survive a mad tank driver with "apex" type AR. Pfffft that's what BPO Vehicle modules are for!
I got all of them in closed beta, and i also still have a small stock of MLT torque boosters 
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.11.16 15:27:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:XT11 TU53 wrote:I spend 250,000 on a LAV because a tank one shots the bpo variant. I modified a quafe with HP boosters and a fuel injector. The injector lets you go from slow to max speed in cas you run across a tank when you weren't at top speed. Ramming a tank at non-top speed means it won't blow up (unless you get it to run over you)
Packed REs don't do damage... I'll replace my hive with another RE variant. Not like I'll survive a mad tank driver with "apex" type AR. Pfffft that's what BPO Vehicle modules are for! I got all of them in closed beta, and i also still have a small stock of MLT torque boosters
Oh torque boosters...I think I have 5 or so tucked away. Those modules were amazing for LAVs...took on steep hills like a champ
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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