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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.06 12:27:00 -
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and stop the jump driver BS.
(at least stop tanked jump driver BS)
Also add stamina penalty to armor mods.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2015.11.06 15:58:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:and stop the jump driver BS.
(at least stop tanked jump driver BS)
Also add stamina penalty to armor mods.
Disliking your penatly idea but like weapon swaying with low stamina, that one seems interesting.
No.Gäó
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
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Posted - 2015.11.06 19:56:00 -
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Cant just mess with every other class to attempt to nerf one specialty role. Stop. If you want to say nerf jumping mass drivers just say that, dont bring up bad ideas ruining other roles.
Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó
Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.06 20:40:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cant just mess with every other class to attempt to nerf one specialty role. Stop. If you want to say nerf jumping mass drivers just say that, dont bring up bad ideas ruining other roles.
What roles would it ruin?
Low stamina affecting actions in a negative way is in almost every game with a stamina bar.
I never suggested that shooting should consume stamina, so unless you like to run around with bazilions of armor tanked HP, this would not hurt.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.06 20:53:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cant just mess with every other class to attempt to nerf one specialty role. Stop. If you want to say nerf jumping mass drivers just say that, dont bring up bad ideas ruining other roles. What roles would it ruin? Low stamina affecting actions in a negative way is in almost every game with a stamina bar. I never suggested that shooting should consume stamina, so unless you like to run around with bazilions of armor tanked HP, this would not hurt.
Amarr and Gal Sentinels and Commandos,
Brick Tanked Amarr Assaults
Hybrid Tanking Minmatar Commandos and Sentinels
Brick and Rep tank Gal Assault
CQC Gal Assaults (needing to sprint in close)
Most Shotgun/Nova knife scout/assassin builds
CQC Shotgun Min Assault.
Pretty much the list is mainly Gal and Amarr, with a few others.
Director of T-W-L
Keeper of the List
Lord of Scrubs
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.06 21:19:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cant just mess with every other class to attempt to nerf one specialty role. Stop. If you want to say nerf jumping mass drivers just say that, dont bring up bad ideas ruining other roles. What roles would it ruin? Low stamina affecting actions in a negative way is in almost every game with a stamina bar. I never suggested that shooting should consume stamina, so unless you like to run around with bazilions of armor tanked HP, this would not hurt.
Giving Plates a stamina penalty would hurt Sentinels if it affected their stamina pool and recovery.
Purifier. First Class.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.07 09:12:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:shaman oga wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Cant just mess with every other class to attempt to nerf one specialty role. Stop. If you want to say nerf jumping mass drivers just say that, dont bring up bad ideas ruining other roles. What roles would it ruin? Low stamina affecting actions in a negative way is in almost every game with a stamina bar. I never suggested that shooting should consume stamina, so unless you like to run around with bazilions of armor tanked HP, this would not hurt. Amarr and Gal Sentinels and Commandos, Brick Tanked Amarr Assaults Hybrid Tanking Minmatar Commandos and Sentinels Brick and Rep tank Gal Assault CQC Gal Assaults (needing to sprint in close) Most Shotgun/Nova knife scout/assassin builds CQC Shotgun Min Assault. Pretty much the list is mainly Gal and Amarr, with a few others.
Brick tank is working too well, anything that can hurt it is good imo.
The price you have to pay for hp is too low.
Sentinel and+¦ commando can receive a bonus, since having lots of Hp is their intended role.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.11.07 10:00:00 -
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Stamina penalty to armor plates is not necessary. It is not justified. Armor is just as good as shield play styles. Both are dependent on map layout unfortunately.
Use PRO or ADV precision mods, use ADV or PRO active scanners, use red and green biotic mods to run away. These will help you deal with jumping players with armor mods. They are slow, they can be scanned and ambushed at medium-close range. They can be out run.
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.07 10:28:00 -
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I still don't get how tying weapon sway to stamina (I assume low stamina = less accuracy/more recoil) would even affect a jumpy fit to any real degree. Most have some combination of Mass Drivers, Plasma Cannons and Flaylocks and rely on splash damage, so I don't think this penalty would even be noticed by them.
Purifier. First Class.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.07 20:34:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:I still don't get how tying weapon sway to stamina (I assume low stamina = less accuracy/more recoil) would even affect a jumpy fit to any real degree. Most have some combination of Mass Drivers, Plasma Cannons and Flaylocks and rely on splash damage, so I don't think this penalty would even be noticed by them.
Exactly.
I gotta laugh...all of these silly roundabout ways to fix the jumpy fits....why not just fix the root of the problem which is the jump mods? lol
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.11.07 20:45:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I still don't get how tying weapon sway to stamina (I assume low stamina = less accuracy/more recoil) would even affect a jumpy fit to any real degree. Most have some combination of Mass Drivers, Plasma Cannons and Flaylocks and rely on splash damage, so I don't think this penalty would even be noticed by them. Exactly. I gotta laugh...all of these silly roundabout ways to fix the jumpy fits....why not just fix the root of the problem which is the jump mods? lol
Jumping isn't a problem by itself, jumping has been a great improvement for fast suits, the problem is that they work even if you armor tank your suit.
This isn't a problem of shield since you have to choose between shield or blue bottles.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.07 23:15:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:
I never suggested that shooting should consume stamina
I'm just crazy enough to think that would be brilliant >__> |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.08 02:09:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I still don't get how tying weapon sway to stamina (I assume low stamina = less accuracy/more recoil) would even affect a jumpy fit to any real degree. Most have some combination of Mass Drivers, Plasma Cannons and Flaylocks and rely on splash damage, so I don't think this penalty would even be noticed by them. Exactly. I gotta laugh...all of these silly roundabout ways to fix the jumpy fits....why not just fix the root of the problem which is the jump mods? lol Jumping isn't a problem by itself, jumping has been a great improvement for fast suits, the problem is that they work even if you armor tank your suit. This isn't a problem of shield since you have to choose between shield or blue bottles.
Fat suits shouldn't need a module to get the basic mobility that it provides. Most of the Heavy Suits could use a reasonable increase to base jump height.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.11.08 07:58:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:shaman oga wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:I still don't get how tying weapon sway to stamina (I assume low stamina = less accuracy/more recoil) would even affect a jumpy fit to any real degree. Most have some combination of Mass Drivers, Plasma Cannons and Flaylocks and rely on splash damage, so I don't think this penalty would even be noticed by them. Exactly. I gotta laugh...all of these silly roundabout ways to fix the jumpy fits....why not just fix the root of the problem which is the jump mods? lol Jumping isn't a problem by itself, jumping has been a great improvement for fast suits, the problem is that they work even if you armor tank your suit. This isn't a problem of shield since you have to choose between shield or blue bottles. Fat suits shouldn't need a module to get the basic mobility that it provides. Most of the Heavy Suits could use a reasonable increase to base jump height.
Agree, but i'm talking about the things you fit, not basic stats, i've nothing against if a heavy suit could jump a little bit higher by default, sometime little steps can trap heavies and that is not cool, i would also agree in depenalize HP mods on heavies, since having HP it's their intended role.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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