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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.11.04 21:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I blame 1.7.
Why was so much content removed? There was really no reason for it. You know what the sad part about it is , check the old thread about the change ... most players talked about how good that was going to be and a very few and I mean few ( including myself ) protested the changes .
Most of the players were just salivating over it in expectations of what would be but if you would have just looked over it , like I'm sure most didn't , they were doing just what the @OP mentioned ... taking out content and it was mostly content that highlighted vehicle play / usage and it were mods that had zero to do with the supposed problems with vehicles in general .
All they really had to do was what myself and few others mentioned and that was to just tweak anti-vehicle a bit and not only did they eventually come around to do that but they just broke vehicles down to the bare minimum in an attempt at " adding " content at a later date and we all see how that went .
Now we'll just get reskinned vehicles ( if and when ) and some of the mods will make a return but how will they function given we don't have the same vehicle skill tree to back up their functionality .?.
I'm glad they did what they did at the time because everybody was walking around on egg shells , like they do whenever the DEV's mention anything ... they ( the community ) talk about problems ( rarely like the OP is doing ) and when the DEV's speak , it's like they forget everything that they mentioned and begin to form a line for circle jerking , that's why we can't get issues fixed around here because we can't get a concerted effort to put pressure on CCP to get issues fixed .
Just don't stand their ground and just cower in the face of the power structure , this is why we can't have problems dealt with and why this game gets zero attention , other then forms of marketing in an attempt to get YOU to spend RW funds on a game that isn't getting much support .
To me , the people got what they deserved because when the time came to speak out , they did nothing but praise CCP for the coming changes .
Look and see where that got vehicles now , is it better or worse ?
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.11.04 22:00:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:You can say CCP ruined vehicles but the reality is it is vehicle users ruined vehicles.
Just allow all weapons 100% AV damage and swarms changed to a sidearm and you have a deal Now , your first statement I agree with because it's like I say about this community ... YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM , you have some the exaggerate and create issues from non-issues and they want their roles to shine more and the role that their bias against , nerfed into uselessness . Can't get viable feedback because CCP doesn't know what to do to please everyone and what could be useful gets muddled up in a bunch of troll responses and useless feedback from players trying to derail the thread .
Bias does more harm then anything and leads to more harm then good , it's part of the reason this game is in the state it's in now and that's because of the community at heart .
The second part of that is that you have players in that role and they want their role to shine more and because their getting push back from the part of the community that's trying to have their role nerfed , they can't be honest about things that need to done to their own role because of the lies that are being told in the attempt from the other side , so they lie about issues or proposed changes and in that , can't / don't give constructive feedback in an attempt to balance their role because they feel threatened .
This community is it's own worse enemy .
The last statement to me , is part of the reason that were in the boat that were in now .
Not balanced , a bit biased and seems to clearly be a part of the first group regardless if you use vehicles or not , that's how that statement comes across as being counterproductive .
That was some of the things that I seen in the vehicle discussions during the changes and it doesn't help vehicle use not one bit .
It just ruins a role because we can't have any bias placed to the side in benefit of the game , can't have a honest and constructive dialogue because some just want to manipulate and others act similar in an attempt to fight against that manipulation so they exaggerate .
Doesn't help the whole ( being the game ) one bit .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.11.04 22:20:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: I blame ccp because they never listened to anything any of us say there were a lot of people that warned them about really bad decisions well before they were made even when it wasnt about vehicles...but they never ever listen . That's because CCP has their favorites whom they listen too , If they play EVE , make video's / podcasts or some other self promotion or is in with those that do , it just seems like those are the players that they listen to .
I don't know if it has anything to do with past history from playing EVE but it just seems that they listen to all the wrong people because this game hasn't left the dungeon yet and I'm starting to believe they have those who are committed to Dust , right where they want them because it just seems like this game has zero future and I'm not even that shallow in talking about a port , what these port pushers just don't understand is that even with a port , that doesn't mean that they have a future for the game , it could be like the current marketing ... an attempt to get players to spend RW currency for a game that has no future but you would ask then , why port it .?. well , why keep this game going on now when anyone can clearly see that CCP has no future for it , they don't even hide that by the poor performance of the game .
One day it's running half way decent and the next your getting black screens and DQ's and they incorporate zero content other then ways to get you to spend RW currency . No talk about addressing matchmaking and no talk about the future of DUST 514 or what could be done about lag , glitches and other real issues that plague the performance of the game .
I know I keep talking about performance but to me , that and matchmaking are the elephant in the room and to keep ignoring these two issues is proof enough for me to understand that this game has no future .
Talk about real issues and get your thread either derailed by trolls or locked by CCP for ranting .
Troll threads get blue tags when that's suppose to be against their own policy .
Nothing will get done as long as those who care ( their not the majority ) about the game are pushed aside , that should also show that this game has zero future .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.11.04 22:36:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: Unfortunately those who want balance are like 3% of posters
Your not lying about that and that's what really gets me , if this game was running the way that it should ... it really wouldn't matter because people would still play it and it would grow and thrive because the experience would be better instead of spinning CCP's head in multiple directions and expecting them to fix issues without strong and precise feedback .
It's like three people trying to pull CCP in three different directions and still expecting a positive result .
This game is in the shitter now , I mean really and people still play it , now given it's the same people for the most part but that should just show how much better this game would be if it was balanced and the community came together to solve problems and not to create them .
I really would wish that people would just put their wants aside for the betterment and benefit of the game and speak to CCP like they really wanted issues addressed , I already know how business is ... watch how much better this game would become , then I could feel like it has a future to look forward to but now , this game is like Plax Burris ... the community shooting it's self in the foot in a club and I thought your suppose to go to the club to enjoy yourself .
This game is the club but there is not too much to gain enjoyment from here , maybe it's time to go to another club ?
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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