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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 13:13:00 -
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i almost never see a murder taxi anymore
hmg lav heavies are never seen
av trolling tanks in lavs....
what happened oh wait high level lavs were nerfed into being completely useless that right..and the only two lavs that had survivability were removed
why have vehicle suffered so much in dust they have like 20% the content they used to why why why no scout lavs (dont rememeber what they were called but there was two of them) no logi lavs (charybdis pouts limbus pouts) no shield transporters (light or heavy) spider tanking gone a whole stratagem completely wiped out here no remote armor reppers (light or heavy) no chassis (youll never see a clown mobile again) no overdrives (youll never see a clown mobile again) no tracking computers crisis control units gone no passive resistance mods for shields or armor we went from having 3 kinds of missiles 3 kinds of blasters 3 kinds of railguns to 1 of each 6 turret styles gone passive heat sinks GONE we had 3 types of armor now we have 1 ... polycrystaline plates gone nanofiber plates GONE
so much depth so much style so many factors all gone along with fitting versatility (everyone pretty much uses the same thigns there is no ingenuity left
all depth to the field GONE all because of qq
vehicles used to be something in this game they had a tangible effect on the field now they are nothing but shiny coffins that cost a fortune
idc how good you are or how much sp you've invested in vehicles it doesnt matter you do not have a tangible effect you are nothing compared to what you could be
and everyone who remembers dust before uprising knows this
ccp why did you ruin vehicles ..they are complete garbage every single one
not only did you ruin tanks you ruined lavs and now dropships
might as well remove all vehicles because i never see one anyway
there is a reason all the legendary pilots are gone from dust and can only be found raging on the forums
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Posted - 2015.11.04 16:06:00 -
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Devadander wrote:I usually hate everything you post...
But this shite is spot on. well thank you ide like to think i have a solid grasp of how ******* ruined vehicles are i used to be a pilot has just never been the same ya know
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Posted - 2015.11.04 16:26:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Abron was gal SLAV, don't member cal one.
I miss that thing more than my LLAV. ): i never used slavs i miss my sagaris clown mobile with the blaster **** was soooo fast scout tank anyone
i miss my chary i miss watching people run away from a 3500 shield lav with passive 60% res and a forge that would kill anything in sight
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Posted - 2015.11.04 16:28:00 -
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Devadander wrote:And my blaster sagaris with triple RoF mods.... omg i forgot the rof mods
i used to have this nasty sagaris accelerated rail tank though 2 shots death
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I blame 1.7.
Why was so much content removed? There was really no reason for it. because it made it hard to balance
and most all of that content if not all was removed uprising 1.0
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:53:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:You can say CCP ruined vehicles but the reality is it is vehicle users ruined vehicles.
When I started playing this game corps like Nyan San were spamming invincible tanks that farmed infantry every match.
I'm not the only one who thinks players like this pushed droves of players away from DUST
Sure the AV vs vehicles is flawed and this game will be dead before any true "balance" is achieved
I don't think players should gimp their fits or play styles because they are winning but we are talking about vehicles that players would stop using because of how easy and boring it was to dominate when using them.
Murder Taxi's would probably be a threat that you could deal with right now. So I agree they need a bit of a buff But when they were prevalent? When Heavies were almost impossible to take down and even the basic HMG could shred you at 30m? This is why it was nerfed into the ground
I think we are seeing now that having more access to stronger and varied AV has brought more balance than there ever was.
Right now tanks have a lot less options but they are still very strong and not at all easy to kill
ADS needs some love too
I personally would love vehicles to go back to how strong and varied they were many updates ago
Just allow all weapons 100% AV damage and swarms changed to a sidearm and you have a deal
ur right on that some people were down right cruel with their tanks making it thier life to break game modes and do nothing but slaughter scrub (prolly to make them feel better about having no life) cough cough duna no i dont think murder taxis would be a problem now adays there is just to much high level av in pubs
but then the same thing goes for the people that roll into pubs each patch with whatever the new fotm is and just relentlessly stop everyone with the best gear...
in actuality most of those players are not good ..most of the good players in this game run lower end gear because proto stomping is boring ///but then even amoung the skilled players there are those that just dont care...they dont wanna challenge they just wanna slaughter (again prolly to make themselves feel better about having no life) at the cost of the new players ..
which is why i personally support the scrub movement to get high end gear locked out of pubs entirely
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Posted - 2015.11.04 20:24:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:The best days of DUST have long gone, all we have left is memories.
Say what you want about the vehicles they were fun, well worth dropping in 40mil of SP into every part of it, so much fun so much variety but now all we have left is an empty shell.
Sure Nyan San abused them in ambush but whose fault it is? They used what they were allowed to use, it was not glitching or exploitation, it was in the rules of the game at that time and at that time matchmaking was shite and still is so proto stompers and 6man teams vs academy noobs.
Forget pubs, PC was where it was at, PC was where vehicles were actually useful and fun and were needed to an extent.
Pilots had an actual active role in games, now you can replace it with 1 infantry person in the vast majority of cases.
Distant memories. i wish we were still in chromosome so i could be a 120mill sp dedicated pilot they were ridiculously fun back then
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Posted - 2015.11.04 22:02:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:DDx77 wrote:You can say CCP ruined vehicles but the reality is it is vehicle users ruined vehicles.
Just allow all weapons 100% AV damage and swarms changed to a sidearm and you have a deal Now , your first statement I agree with because it's like I say about this community ... YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM , you have some the exaggerate and create issues from non-issues and they want their roles to shine more and the role that their bias against , nerfed into uselessness . Can't get viable feedback because CCP doesn't know what to do to please everyone and what could be useful gets muddled up in a bunch of troll responses and useless feedback from players trying to derail the thread . Bias does more harm then anything and leads to more harm then good , it's part of the reason this game is in the state it's in now and that's because of the community at heart . The second part of that is that you have players in that role and they want their role to shine more and because their getting push back from the part of the community that's trying to have their role nerfed , they can't be honest about things that need to done to their own role because of the lies that are being told in the attempt from the other side , so they lie about issues or proposed changes and in that , can't / don't give constructive feedback in an attempt to balance their role because they feel threatened . This community is it's own worse enemy . The last statement to me , is part of the reason that were in the boat that were in now . Not balanced , a bit biased and seems to clearly be a part of the first group regardless if you use vehicles or not , that's how that statement comes across as being counterproductive . That was some of the things that I seen in the vehicle discussions during the changes and it doesn't help vehicle use not one bit . It just ruins a role because we can't have any bias placed to the side in benefit of the game , can't have a honest and constructive dialogue because some just want to manipulate and others act similar in an attempt to fight against that manipulation so they exaggerate . Doesn't help the whole ( being the game ) one bit . unfortunately those who want balance are like 3% of posters
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Posted - 2015.11.04 22:26:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: I blame ccp because they never listened to anything any of us say there were a lot of people that warned them about really bad decisions well before they were made even when it wasnt about vehicles...but they never ever listen . That's because CCP has their favorites whom they listen too , If they play EVE , make video's / podcasts or some other self promotion or is in with those that do , it just seems like those are the players that they listen to . I don't know if it has anything to do with past history from playing EVE but it just seems that they listen to all the wrong people because this game hasn't left the dungeon yet and I'm starting to believe they have those who are committed to Dust , right where they want them because it just seems like this game has zero future and I'm not even that shallow in talking about a port , what these port pushers just don't understand is that even with a port , that doesn't mean that they have a future for the game , it could be like the current marketing ... an attempt to get players to spend RW currency for a game that has no future but you would ask then , why port it .?. well , why keep this game going on now when anyone can clearly see that CCP has no future for it , they don't even hide that by the poor performance of the game . One day it's running half way decent and the next your getting black screens and DQ's and they incorporate zero content other then ways to get you to spend RW currency . No talk about addressing matchmaking and no talk about the future of DUST 514 or what could be done about lag , glitches and other real issues that plague the performance of the game . I know I keep talking about performance but to me , that and matchmaking are the elephant in the room and to keep ignoring these two issues is proof enough for me to understand that this game has no future . Talk about real issues and get your thread either derailed by trolls or locked by CCP for ranting . Troll threads get blue tags when that's suppose to be against their own policy . Nothing will get done as long as those who care ( their not the majority ) about the game are pushed aside , that should also show that this game has zero future . yeah ccp is good at sticking to the ftp model...and the monetization of this game truly does make me feel sick
but then now i feel like im insulting ftp games and there are a lot of ftp games that are just great ....especially on pc...lots of small studios put out games way better than this i dont get why dust has to have so many issues
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Posted - 2015.11.05 01:12:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:I think you forgot how broken the Charybdis was when it existed. It had an unkillable shield recharging faster than tanks could recharge theirs and the damages from the broken physic were insanely high.
It was the worst plague in dust's history. And it lasted more than a year. If they ever reintroduce these things, they'll have to be very careful with the stats !
Then, you do have a good point on how bad vehicle content was taken out of the game.. It's a real shame to think that the balance (and the content) was better before 1.7 than after while it was supposed to be "the best vehicle update" ... i know it was op trust me of anyone i know i abused the charybdis more than anyone in dust i even had my friends getting pissed off at me
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Posted - 2015.11.05 01:14:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:One simple wordGǪ TANKOPHOBIA.
Or, VEHICLOPHOBIA if you like. Same difference, the COD infantry only FPS crybabies got their way.
These people would absolutely ruin EVE if they weren't console only kiddies. They'd cry until EVE nerfed or removed all the ships. gotta ******* love those cod scrubs
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:12:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:I'll reinstall DUST if I can get my Charybdis back, kthx.
Hai Morte <3 JASSSONN I ******* miss UUUUUUU
HAAIII
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:49:00 -
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Devadander wrote:JudgeIsABadPilot wrote:Devadander wrote:Murder taxi were only a problem because of flawed bumper physics.
A LLAV would not be the same now, even more so due to passive resistance mods being a thing of the past.
Can we have them back? You really think something weighing likely more than today's cars, say more around 6000lbs or more traveling at 80mph really won't ragdoll a meatbag? Lolwut? One two many uplink spawns there eh? Maybe some lasting cell damage? To this waste of nanites, and the others who say they would still be OP. THEY REMOVED THE MODULES THAT MADE THEM OP... And one could do same amount of killing at that time with a baloch due to BAD BUMPER PHYSICS... Both of these have been since 'balanced'... Do you guys even eyeball bro? Or do you just fumble fingers around and then hit post? exactly...no chasis no jovian fusion powerplants....plus the entire roadkill damage got dramatically nerfed isnt like it used to be ....wouldnt be op at all
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Posted - 2015.11.06 17:59:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Devadander wrote:JudgeIsABadPilot wrote:Devadander wrote:Murder taxi were only a problem because of flawed bumper physics.
A LLAV would not be the same now, even more so due to passive resistance mods being a thing of the past.
Can we have them back? You really think something weighing likely more than today's cars, say more around 6000lbs or more traveling at 80mph really won't ragdoll a meatbag? Lolwut? One two many uplink spawns there eh? Maybe some lasting cell damage? To this waste of nanites, and the others who say they would still be OP. THEY REMOVED THE MODULES THAT MADE THEM OP... And one could do same amount of killing at that time with a baloch due to BAD BUMPER PHYSICS... Both of these have been since 'balanced'... Do you guys even eyeball bro? Or do you just fumble fingers around and then hit post? exactly...no chasis no jovian fusion powerplants....plus the entire roadkill damage got dramatically nerfed isnt like it used to be ....wouldnt be op at all They would be a sad Shadow of their former selves.. But I would still rock them. Hidden agenda: hoping I would get my SLAV back as well xD you know what my hidden agenda is?
the real reason i alwaysed used a lav was because its my fun way of being mobile av...thats my hidden agenda i dont want them to be murdertaxis i want them to be viable transport machines so i can go back to hunting tanks ..while they are at it ide like tanks to come back as viable machines as well....ps i never hada hard time killing tanks in chromosome ...me and 3 guys from wsg could kill anyone...
i remember running with tanker buddies and being a forward scout av unit and giving intel and ambushing multiple tanks hitting their crit spots in cqc lai dai range with the ish assault forge drive circles around rail tanks hopping out dealing dps...i used to bge able to drive ina wide circle and have three nano haves laid for av nade swarm circles of death..i want that kinda depth back
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