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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.30 17:17:00 -
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Here is a link to the Amarr Commando thread I made in GD. I made this thread because I surveyed 24 people and 21/24 said it was underpowered. I also realize that almost none (correct me if I am wrong) of the CPM play the Amarr Commando or if they do, they do not play it frequently.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=219746&find=unread
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.31 01:07:00 -
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How do you feel about extra PG? And a BLR?
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.31 01:26:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:How do you feel about extra PG? And a BLR? I'm in wait and see mode honestly. I haven't had any trouble fitting my commandos the way others claim, but I also don't follow accepted meta either. If I see a compelling need to talk to rattati about it, I will, but in the meantime if you come up with suggestions, write them down. Build a spreadsheet and show us the pros, cons and intent you want to show. That kind of thing tends to grab attention.
Will do, the things I mainly want to change are the bonus, and the fact that the Amarr is the only Commando now without an AV weapon.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.31 01:42:00 -
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I also want to let you know that what led me to make this thread was the report by Rattati on suit usage in PC. I am a firm believer that a suit is truly "good" when it receives regular usage in PC. I was shocked by the data as almost no one uses it in PC. In fact, I believe I was the last one to ever use it in PC.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 00:29:00 -
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QN5Ay-vDhUHdRLCI4tK3QMMDScJdlHnne5AZqjIduX0/edit?usp=sharing
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 15:00:00 -
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Hmm, at proto can you fit all proto? I'm betting not, but I'm going to protofits just to make sure
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 15:08:00 -
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http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/12927 (Ignore the name)
As you can see here it is not possible to fit all proto on an Amarr Commando, however on Gallente Commando, which has a similar slot loadout...
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/12927
It is much easier to fit proto and you sacrifice less than the Amarr Commando.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 21:51:00 -
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Yes you make a good point Shotty, no commando can ever go full proto, but on the Amarr Commando even more so. I think from your data (which I haven't even thought about until this point) calls for a PG/CPU reduction bonus for all Commandos. Or no?
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 21:59:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yes you make a good point Shotty, no commando can ever go full proto, but on the Amarr Commando even more so. I think from your data (which I haven't even thought about until this point) calls for a PG/CPU reduction bonus for all Commandos. Or no? I don't think that any suit can fit the best of everything. I'm personally OK with that. It makes choosing what to run on a given suit more interesting.
Yeah, but every other suit can fit more of the best than the Amarr Commando
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 22:22:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yes you make a good point Shotty, no commando can ever go full proto, but on the Amarr Commando even more so. I think from your data (which I haven't even thought about until this point) calls for a PG/CPU reduction bonus for all Commandos. Or no? I don't think that any suit can fit the best of everything. I'm personally OK with that. It makes choosing what to run on a given suit more interesting. Yeah, but every other suit can fit more of the best than the Amarr Commando Not sure whether or not that's the case, but it shouldn't be tough to prove one way or the other. Let's revisit the above examples, but this time try to make them valid ... Commando gk.0 (valid)HS: Cmp Dmg (x2) LS: Cmp Plates (x2), Cmp Rep PW: Adv AR, Adv PLC EQ: Compact Hive Commando ak.0 (invalid ... needs +4 PG)HS: Cmp Dmg (x2) LS: Cmp Plates (x2), Cmp Rep PW: Adv ASCR, Adv Laser EQ: Compact Hive Commando mk.0 (invalid ... needs +7 PG)HS: Cmp Dmg (x2), Cmp Shield LS: Cmp Plates (x2) PW: Adv MD, Adv CR EQ: Compact Hive Commando ck.0 (invalid ... needs +8 PG)HS: Cmp Dmg (x2), Cmp Shield LS: Cmp Plates (x2) PW: Adv Rail, Adv Swarms EQ: Compact Hive
Compared to the others, looks to me like the GA Commando has too much flexibility. Just to be safe, swapped out the PLC (zero PG) for an ADV Shotgun + ADV AR ... still valid.
I just realized that I said Amarr Commando, what I was meaning to say was Commandos in general, my mistake.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.01 22:44:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Right on. If you're comparing resource constraints, I'd recommend assessing the class as a whole rather than focusing on X versus Y. At first glance, looks like you could argue that either the GA Commando has too much fitting capacity or the other three have too little. I'd defer to the commando experts, though; not really my department ... though I do very much enjoy the suits.
Here are my three favorite AM Commando loadouts to date:
HS: Cmp Dmg (x2)
LS: Cmp Rep, Cmp Plate, Enh Plate
PW: Pro Laser + Adv ASCR
EQ: Compact Hive
HS: Cmp Dmg (x2)
LS: Cmp Rep, Cmp Plate, Enh Plate
PW: Adv Laser + Adv Laser
EQ: Compact Hive
HS: Cmp Dmg (x2)
LS: Enh Plate (x3)
PW: Adv Laser + Adv Laser
EQ: Allotek Hive
I didn't know you play Amarr Commando.
My opinion of you has gone up, if that's possible.
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