DUST Search - Amarr Commando Balancing

Luther Mandrix wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

XxBlazikenxX wrote:

I also want to let you know that what led me to make this thread was the report by Rattati on suit usage in PC. I am a firm believer that a suit is truly "good" when it receives regular usage in PC. I was shocked by the data as almost no one uses it in PC. In fact, I believe I was the last one to ever use it in PC.

people are always going to gravitate to what they percieve as "best" overall for competitive modes like PC.

In the absence of a true FOTM setup, people will gravitate to what is most readily familiar to them in gameplay style. For most players that familiarity comes from assault dropsuits.

When a clear superiority is eliminated, most people will revert to the standard FPS method of assault + battle rifle.

Commandos are an oddball niche setup, and sentinels are sluggish to anyone who doesn't use them more or less exclusively and it takes a special brand of maniac to not find scouts too fragile.

Please give us some loadouts
Highs/Lows/Light weapon/light weapon/Equipment
Apex Amar Commando what do you change or do you go Proto Isk suit to get more cpu/pg you need?

WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.


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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.31 01:04:00 - [1] - Quote I actually run the amarr commando frequently when i have time to rock matches. When you take it in the context of the AScR + laser rifle it is amazing as a suppression platform as long as you are dealing with shield suits. In closer the AScR does amazingly well killing most targets, but you have to pick your fights carefully. What I feel is golding the amarr commando back is the same thing holding the calmando back: lack of relevant weapon choices. You have scramblers and laser rifles that take advantage of the ammamdos strengths. The caldari have rail rifles and sniper rifles. Swarms are more of a consolation prize IMHO. But the gallente have a better overall feel with their weapons and the minmatar are easier to apply in battle. The amarr commandos can be solidly tanked, or fit for mobility, and have decent EHP overall. The bonuses aren't terrible, but the weapon selection just isn't there. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.31 01:22:00 - [2] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: How do you feel about extra PG? And a BLR? I'm in wait and see mode honestly. I haven't had any trouble fitting my commandos the way others claim, but I also don't follow accepted meta either. If I see a compelling need to talk to rattati about it, I will, but in the meantime if you come up with suggestions, write them down. Build a spreadsheet and show us the pros, cons and intent you want to show. That kind of thing tends to grab attention. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.10.31 19:15:00 - [3] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I also want to let you know that what led me to make this thread was the report by Rattati on suit usage in PC. I am a firm believer that a suit is truly "good" when it receives regular usage in PC. I was shocked by the data as almost no one uses it in PC. In fact, I believe I was the last one to ever use it in PC. people are always going to gravitate to what they percieve as "best" overall for competitive modes like PC. In the absence of a true FOTM setup, people will gravitate to what is most readily familiar to them in gameplay style. For most players that familiarity comes from assault dropsuits. When a clear superiority is eliminated, most people will revert to the standard FPS method of assault + battle rifle. Commandos are an oddball niche setup, and sentinels are sluggish to anyone who doesn't use them more or less exclusively and it takes a special brand of maniac to not find scouts too fragile. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.11.01 11:22:00 - [4] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: I also want to let you know that what led me to make this thread was the report by Rattati on suit usage in PC. I am a firm believer that a suit is truly "good" when it receives regular usage in PC. I was shocked by the data as almost no one uses it in PC. In fact, I believe I was the last one to ever use it in PC. people are always going to gravitate to what they percieve as "best" overall for competitive modes like PC. In the absence of a true FOTM setup, people will gravitate to what is most readily familiar to them in gameplay style. For most players that familiarity comes from assault dropsuits. When a clear superiority is eliminated, most people will revert to the standard FPS method of assault + battle rifle. Commandos are an oddball niche setup, and sentinels are sluggish to anyone who doesn't use them more or less exclusively and it takes a special brand of maniac to not find scouts too fragile. Please give us some loadouts Highs/Lows/Light weapon/light weapon/Equipment Apex Amar Commando what do you change or do you go Proto Isk suit to get more cpu/pg you need? My amarr commandos invariably go: Damage mod Damage mod Plate (Not Ferro/Reactive) Plate (Not Ferro/Reactive) Rep AScR LR Hive OR Damage mod Damage mod Plate (Not Ferro/Reactive) Rep Cardiac Regulator AScR LR Hive Generally I can get this fit going at any tier. I don't use Ferroscales as the amarr focus seems to work better when you can just eat more punishment than the guy trying to kill you. It's overly simplistic as far as loadouts go, but it works for me. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.11.02 00:18:00 - [5] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Yes you make a good point Shotty, no commando can ever go full proto, but on the Amarr Commando even more so. I think from your data (which I haven't even thought about until this point) calls for a PG/CPU reduction bonus for all Commandos. Or no? As stated by devs in the past the intent is for no suit to be able to just fit all proto. In this case the nanohives on my fits are lesser varieties and/or get sacrificed for survivability or firepower WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.