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XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:46:00 - [31] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I've honestly only ran into a handful of people I suspected of using modded controllers. Most didn't play PC. Lag is real, but "Mods" are a terrible excuse to getting schooled. I will never understand why lag is soooo much more persistent in PC which you would think should have the least lag. I can agree with the mod thing being bullshit. I have done some testing on the most advanced modding you can do and found it to only be a benefit in specific situations while being a disadvantage in all other areas. Because you have people from different servers playing in the same map. For instance south american corps and north american corps go at it all the time. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:48:00 - [32] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I've honestly only ran into a handful of people I suspected of using modded controllers. Most didn't play PC. Lag is real, but "Mods" are a terrible excuse to getting schooled. I will never understand why lag is soooo much more persistent in PC which you would think should have the least lag. I can agree with the mod thing being bullshit. I have done some testing on the most advanced modding you can do and found it to only be a benefit in specific situations while being a disadvantage in all other areas. Because you have people from different servers playing in the same map. For instance south american corps and north american corps go at it all the time. Not because we want to. The lag is real. I'd rather fight OH, Cap and AE than fight SoG or PoK. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:48:00 - [33] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: I've honestly only ran into a handful of people I suspected of using modded controllers. Most didn't play PC. Lag is real, but "Mods" are a terrible excuse to getting schooled. I will never understand why lag is soooo much more persistent in PC which you would think should have the least lag. I can agree with the mod thing being bullshit. I have done some testing on the most advanced modding you can do and found it to only be a benefit in specific situations while being a disadvantage in all other areas. Because you have people from different servers playing in the same map. For instance south american corps and north american corps go at it all the time. The same thing happens in FW hundreds of times a day and for me has never once even gotten half as bad as I have seen in tons of PCs.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:49:00 - [34] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: The real problem of the PC, is the creation of "dream elite OP invincible corporation", composed of greedy people who are just looking for easy battle. It's just ridiculous to see people leaving a corpo to go to an other corporation, just because it's the most powerful at this moment, and then switch teams again if they found better. If only the old experienced players just trying to balance the teams, to teach to younger players how to make a good PC (strategy, gameplay...), it would already be a good way to solve the problem. I tried to do that last few months, but when you see corporations like AE, FA, 0H... who crush(ed) everyone, because their 16 was composed entirely of "elites" players against a less experienced team, it's just discouraging and frustrating. That's why I stopped planetary conquest in US side, because I just not enjoy playing on the side of the team that crushes the enemy team, and vice versa. There is not challenge, and when I see old players who play just for this facility, seriously it's just boring to dead. But well... do what you want, If people continue to look for easy match, they will finnaly have no more match because nobody will want to continue to be farmed like that, and really, that's will be even more stupid for everyone. That is because some people want to conquer as much land as possible, and how else to do it but with the best? Wrong, no group to this date has been dedicated land holders and be considered 'elite' TP, FA, AE, and NF have always been merc groups, and to merc, you need the best, or your competition will get hired instead of your guys. No matter what changes, the best will always come together because that's how you make money. By taking other peoples hard work and claiming their effort for your own. It's part of the fun in PC - but people don't seem to realize that 'elite' groups lose, often. And if it gets talked about on the forums the meta hats get put on and a different story is spinned, keeping there image of badasses hire us now. But with the lack of players capable of PC, I can see why people feel like elite groups still exist.
DogeGode Master 127	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:51:00 - [35] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: That is because some people want to conquer as much land as possible, and how else to do it but with the best? Many corps could hold a bunch of land without having to absorb all the decent players in the game(CP slaves too). Totally not an alt.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:52:00 - [36] - Quote DogeGode Master wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: That is because some people want to conquer as much land as possible, and how else to do it but with the best? Many corps could hold a bunch of land without having to absorb all the decent players in the game(CP slaves too). They would still have to defend their territory with their best players. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
DogeGode Master 127	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:56:00 - [37] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: DogeGode Master wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: That is because some people want to conquer as much land as possible, and how else to do it but with the best? Many corps could hold a bunch of land without having to absorb all the decent players in the game(CP slaves too). They would still have to defend their territory with their best players. There's a huge difference between "defending with their best players," and "defending with the best players." Not even Imps had all the best players because(some) people want competition. Totally not an alt.
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:57:00 - [38] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Genral69 death wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: I hear it all the time but 4/5 of the districts are open for attack. It's quiet simple, truly unplayable matchs due to lag Lol, the lag is avoidable, I have never once lagged in a PC. You are lucky. Others, including myself when I played, are not. If you'd like I can upload some old PC vids of vs Abyss of Universe. I assure my scores and what happens are quite horrific. As for why the game mode is probably dead- There is no incentive to attack when you can just sell clones for Isk and Pub stomp. Why set up a 16 man match a day in advance that you may or may not get into depending on how many ppl are in corp, then you have to reset, then you wait 10 minutes in a warbarge to either: Be confronted with a No-show, an elite PC ringer team that will smash you, a reasonably good team( sometimes occurs), a team of ppl in Militia suits not taking a high risk high reward battlle seriously. Then you have to factor in lag, which occurs often depending on which team grabs server. It has been an extremely long time since I heard of two teams having no lag and duking it out. It is just no fun to play. Dcing in barge and in battle and not being able to rejoin the fight. Did I mention that you earn virtually free isk for no work and that there is no need for DK because the market is mostly useless, as it does not allow you to triple-buy boosters to stack. So why play against good teams when you can just sit back and absorb isk is what I'm hearing. That way you can spend all that isk on officer gear so you can feel like you have skill. I played lots of PC and if I did a simple restart 10 min prior I had no lag whatsoever. The lag excuse is compleat b.s. thats what u heard cause i heard that dust 514 is ona piece of crap machine and lag breaks the game #portdust514 that major issue aside the mode as pointed out promotes not fighting pc master race PORT IT CCP
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:57:00 - [39] - Quote DogeGode Master wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: DogeGode Master wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: That is because some people want to conquer as much land as possible, and how else to do it but with the best? Many corps could hold a bunch of land without having to absorb all the decent players in the game(CP slaves too). They would still have to defend their territory with their best players. There's a huge difference between "defending with their best players," and "defending with the best players." Not even Imps had all the best players because(some) people want competition. TRue true. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:59:00 - [40] - Quote Richard Gamerich-R wrote: I tried to do that last few months, but when you see corporations like AE, FA, 0H... who crush(ed) everyone, because their 16 was composed entirely of "elites" players against a less experienced team, it's just discouraging and frustrating. This is PC matches that your talking about , now think about how random players feel who have to fight these same people who treat pub matches like PC matches and I just can't understand how or why matchmaking is not treated like the valuable issue that it is ? Just doesn't make sense and this " get gud " mentality is killing this game . This thread has been a good read and just someone who has no knowledge about the topic , coming to this thread would learn a lot about the feelings of some on this matter and the habits or things that should change or have attention as to address some of the problems that PC faces and it just seems that the PC thread that the Dev's created , just hasn't addressed enough . I have a question to all that I care to pose ... What would you change about PC to make it more attractive , better and less of a hassle as far as setting up matches , dealing with ringers and subtle things that any of you feel that needs to change and be addressed ? Maybe the OP made this thread to bring light to the issue in looking for suggestions to clean up this mess . I would love to see all facets of the game profitable for all involved so that the game could be the best that it could be and a standard for others . What do you as the community feels , need to be changed to help PC become better in all aspects ? Lets help the OP to help you , help PC . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:00:00 - [41] - Quote For a corp to generate 1 clone pack a day assuming they never maintain a district they must have roughly 31 players generating 800 CP per day. Once they own a district they have to have roughly 18 and must also generate whatever the ISK amount is that I can not remember. This is to launch a battle everyday which obviously is not required. Remember that any follow up attacks have the same numbers making costs doubled or more unless you have a very good team. How many corps out there are even close to the activity numbers to do this even every 3 days? How many of the corps that do generate those numbers are nothing more than farm corps who would never accomplish anything in PC? How many of the corps with enough activity AND not a farm corp have that activity centralized around 16 pure proto players being online at the same time? How many of those 16 online full proto players feel like dealing with the lag and various other problems for what will in reality end up being a meager payout on an individual basis?
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:01:00 - [42] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: I tried to do that last few months, but when you see corporations like AE, FA, 0H... who crush(ed) everyone, because their 16 was composed entirely of "elites" players against a less experienced team, it's just discouraging and frustrating. This is PC matches that your talking about , now think about how random players feel who have to fight these same people who treat pub matches like PC matches and I just can't understand how or why matchmaking is not treated like the valuable issue that it is ? Just doesn't make sense and this " get gud " mentality is killing this game . This thread has been a good read and just someone who has no knowledge about the topic , coming to this thread would learn a lot about the feelings of some on this matter and the habits or things that should change or have attention as to address some of the problems that PC faces and it just seems that the PC thread that the Dev's created , just hasn't addressed enough . I have a question to all that I care to pose ... What would you change about PC to make it more attractive , better and less of a hassle as far as setting up matches , dealing with ringers and subtle things that any of you feel that needs to change and be addressed ? Maybe the OP made this thread to bring light to the issue in looking for suggestions to clean up this mess . I would love to see all facets of the game profitable for all involved so that the game could be the best that it could be and a standard for others . What do you as the community feels , need to be changed to help PC become better in all aspects ? Lets help the OP to help you , help PC . I would change PC by making corporation advertisements, and have daily updates in the warbarge on PC land grabs and battles. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:02:00 - [43] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: I tried to do that last few months, but when you see corporations like AE, FA, 0H... who crush(ed) everyone, because their 16 was composed entirely of "elites" players against a less experienced team, it's just discouraging and frustrating. This is PC matches that your talking about , now think about how random players feel who have to fight these same people who treat pub matches like PC matches and I just can't understand how or why matchmaking is not treated like the valuable issue that it is ? Just doesn't make sense and this " get gud " mentality is killing this game . This thread has been a good read and just someone who has no knowledge about the topic , coming to this thread would learn a lot about the feelings of some on this matter and the habits or things that should change or have attention as to address some of the problems that PC faces and it just seems that the PC thread that the Dev's created , just hasn't addressed enough . I have a question to all that I care to pose ... What would you change about PC to make it more attractive , better and less of a hassle as far as setting up matches , dealing with ringers and subtle things that any of you feel that needs to change and be addressed ? Maybe the OP made this thread to bring light to the issue in looking for suggestions to clean up this mess . I would love to see all facets of the game profitable for all involved so that the game could be the best that it could be and a standard for others . What do you as the community feels , need to be changed to help PC become better in all aspects ? Lets help the OP to help you , help PC . help pc by remaking the game ona machine that can handle it pc master race PORT IT CCP
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:03:00 - [44] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Richard Gamerich-R wrote: I tried to do that last few months, but when you see corporations like AE, FA, 0H... who crush(ed) everyone, because their 16 was composed entirely of "elites" players against a less experienced team, it's just discouraging and frustrating. This is PC matches that your talking about , now think about how random players feel who have to fight these same people who treat pub matches like PC matches and I just can't understand how or why matchmaking is not treated like the valuable issue that it is ? Just doesn't make sense and this " get gud " mentality is killing this game . This thread has been a good read and just someone who has no knowledge about the topic , coming to this thread would learn a lot about the feelings of some on this matter and the habits or things that should change or have attention as to address some of the problems that PC faces and it just seems that the PC thread that the Dev's created , just hasn't addressed enough . I have a question to all that I care to pose ... What would you change about PC to make it more attractive , better and less of a hassle as far as setting up matches , dealing with ringers and subtle things that any of you feel that needs to change and be addressed ? Maybe the OP made this thread to bring light to the issue in looking for suggestions to clean up this mess . I would love to see all facets of the game profitable for all involved so that the game could be the best that it could be and a standard for others . What do you as the community feels , need to be changed to help PC become better in all aspects ? Lets help the OP to help you , help PC . help pc by remaking the game ona machine that can handle it That would be the end goal. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:05:00 - [45] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: I would change PC by making corporation advertisements, and have daily updates in the warbarge on PC land grabs and battles. We need the raiding that was talked about a while back. Simply put I will never be making an effort to join something that requires me build my day around a couple of matches in a video game and I work at home so could easily do it. How can we expect those that work or go to school to manage this broken mechanic with any amount of consistency? Getting a district in Dust for most corps is like everyone being given a job. Scotty will hand you down a work schedule and if you are not online everyone is going to be unhappy with you. How can this be considered fun?
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:09:00 - [46] - Quote Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. PC needs more stuff, sure, but get to the point. Nothing that will ever be added will EVER ***** MATTER BECUASE AFTER 3 TO 4 *** YEARS LAG HAS GOTTEN WORSE. 3 years of this bullshit, 4 if you include corp battles in closed beta. all the other details, none of it matters, the lag is out of *** control for *** years, YEARS. It's *** stupid, why aren't people *** cussing there heads off way the ** more.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:10:00 - [47] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: I will never understand why lag is soooo much more persistent in PC which you would think should have the least lag. This is what I'm not understanding either and someone posed a question about , if PC's were ran more like FW would that be better for all involved ? I didn't read that thread but I'm reading this one ( this one is good ) and that lag issue , I just couldn't understand what or why is it such an issue in PC matches ? Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution 14	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:12:00 - [48] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. PC needs more stuff, sure, but get to the point. Nothing that will ever be added will EVER ***** MATTER BECUASE AFTER 3 TO 4 *** YEARS LAG HAS GOTTEN WORSE. 3 years of this bullshit, 4 if you include corp battles in closed beta. all the other details, none of it matters, the lag is out of *** control for *** years, YEARS. It's *** stupid, why aren't people *** cussing there heads off way the ** more. We've gotten used to it, and seeing it not fixed after this long has us all accepting it. Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_; Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:17:00 - [49] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I will never understand why lag is soooo much more persistent in PC which you would think should have the least lag. This is what I'm not understanding either and someone posed a question about , if PC's were ran more like FW would that be better for all involved ? I didn't read that thread but I'm reading this one ( this one is good ) and that lag issue , I just couldn't understand what or why is it such an issue in PC matches ? You would think PC would be better as in general there is less suit diversity than in pubs or FW. A real PC is almost guaranteed to be 100% proto while FW and pubs even with skins you can still easily have 32 different suits. I can not see the argument on it being people from further away because I have seen plenty of asian and latino corps everywhere else in the game with no personal effect.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:18:00 - [50] - Quote Fight your stockholm syndrome The only change this forum has ever really made is when enough people stand up and say ** EVERYTHING ELSE AND FIX THIS AND JUST THIS. Until enough of you remaining PC players get it through your god damn heads that change is coming UNLESS YOU * FOR IT NON STOP. All the changes we've ever made has been done through this, and CCP will continue to find 'other ways' until you guys say enough is enough. PC is dead, your corp tags have no real banners, it's time for you idiots to come together and fight for what this game really needs - NO *** LAG IN PC. ** PUBS. THEY ONLY JUST STARTED LAGGING, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEEEEEEEEEEEARS! But, really, we've never made change we wanted until everyone got on the same page and yells at CCP.

XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:19:00 - [51] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I will never understand why lag is soooo much more persistent in PC which you would think should have the least lag. This is what I'm not understanding either and someone posed a question about , if PC's were ran more like FW would that be better for all involved ? I didn't read that thread but I'm reading this one ( this one is good ) and that lag issue , I just couldn't understand what or why is it such an issue in PC matches ? You would think PC would be better as in general there is less suit diversity than in pubs or FW. A real PC is almost guaranteed to be 100% proto while FW and pubs even with skins you can still easily have 32 different suits. I can not see the argument on it being people from further away because I have seen plenty of asian and latino corps everywhere else in the game with no personal effect. You seem not to understand the concepts of PC. Which is understandable seeing the alliance you are in. We play PC to win, and that means to best gear, the best players, and the best tactics. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
DogeGode Master 128	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:21:00 - [52] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: This is PC matches that your talking about , now think about how random players feel who have to fight these same people who treat pub matches like PC matches and I just can't understand how or why matchmaking is not treated like the valuable issue that it is ? Just doesn't make sense and this " get gud " mentality is killing this game . No (half decent)player takes pubs as seriously as a PC. Yes, those 4 man squads of corpmates are slightly more competent than a team of blueberries, but (normally) they aren't clamoring for overwatch, calling out for transitions, and sometimes they don't even place link ffs. Honestly if people don't "get gud," why should they be around for PCs? If you want a good fight start by being good at the game. It won't matter if that blueberry that goes 0/3 at the end of a pub gets into PC because they're too afraid to fight, and they can't produce good fights. Totally not an alt.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 17:24:00 - [53] - Quote DogeGode Master wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: This is PC matches that your talking about , now think about how random players feel who have to fight these same people who treat pub matches like PC matches and I just can't understand how or why matchmaking is not treated like the valuable issue that it is ? Just doesn't make sense and this " get gud " mentality is killing this game . No (half decent)player takes pubs as seriously as a PC. Yes, those 4 man squads of corpmates are slightly more competent than a team of blueberries, but (normally) they aren't clamoring for overwatch, calling out for transitions, and sometimes they don't even place link ffs. Honestly if people don't "get gud," why should they be around for PCs? If you want a good fight start by being good at the game. It won't matter if that blueberry that goes 0/3 at the end of a pub gets into PC because they're too afraid to fight, and they can't produce good fights. PC is like sex in the 50's, people know of it, experiment with it, get ****** up by it, but generally think it's just something to mess around with. PC should be like sex in the 1800's, a commitment.
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 19:40:00 - [54] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Unbearable lag, stacked teams, new bros don't stand a chance, no shows because they know they don't stand a chance, tacticslol, too much modded bs causing even more lag, map designs in PC are the same 5 maps lulz, etc. What Richard Gamerich said was true. Nobody wants a challenge, not really. Too many trolls looking to verify their own existence by downing new bros right out of interest in PC. In TOP we have some vets, but majority are legit new bros. Not in the sense of just started playing. They have SP, but no real PC experience. They suffer from pub tactic syndrome?! I enjoy squading with them, and training tactics, but 98% of our fights are elite vet teams or new bros no showing?! I try to encourage more players to play as I meet them, but guys simply don't want to be lagged and modded to death repeatedly?! I can't blame them, and have took a break from PC more than once myself. Hopefully some of these elite teams read this stuff, and realize the game will be more fun with more teams. Spread out and teach some new bro teams, and then fight each. Sgt kirk's crew vs arirana's crew ya know! Something to where future mercs are learning from some of the greats! I just have alot more fun training and fighting against normal players than I do the glitching, laggy, try hard teams with all the modded bs?! Some of you are really good players, and don't need that stuff. Just saying... I've honestly only ran into a handful of people I suspected of using modded controllers. Most didn't play PC. Lag is real, but "Mods" are a terrible excuse to getting schooled. No excuses lol! I'm the last person to care about someone saying I got schooled! Troll missed me lol! Everyone knows kd is just a number to me, and I play to fill the role I was asked to do. The fact of the matter is there's no way 100% me nor you know whether some mods are being used in PC or not, is there? You might know a guy or 2, and so do I, but that doesn't mean we know them all?! It's absurd to think with utter certainty that I know for a fact that users do or don't use things. I just know what I see with my eyes, same as anyone else. However, is it not true that any and all modification of all kinds being eradicated would definitely, at the least, aleviate that issue? It doesn't belong in the game, and that is a fact! It breaks the rules of the EULA! Don't care if it's one guy, or 50! Whether they pub stomp, or play PC isn't the issue. The fact that they are running it without ANY of us knowing the true repercussions of its effects 100% is enough for me to say get rid of it. Not here to argue with anyone. Just want to see more players and teams in PC, the lag gone, and have us all enjoy the mode. If that means someone has to get a refund, so be it. I got the stones to play, win or lose, and enjoy the game as is no extra. Some of us in this community aren't as God as they claim, and need a little edge... I don't. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 19:49:00 - [55] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. PC needs more stuff, sure, but get to the point. Nothing that will ever be added will EVER ***** MATTER BECUASE AFTER 3 TO 4 *** YEARS LAG HAS GOTTEN WORSE. 3 years of this bullshit, 4 if you include corp battles in closed beta. all the other details, none of it matters, the lag is out of *** control for *** years, YEARS. It's *** stupid, why aren't people *** cussing there heads off way the ** more. We've gotten used to it, and seeing it not fixed after this long has us all accepting it. ^^ Very true! There's alot of this going on as well! This doesn't help our cause one bit?! I've been guilty of this too. Refusing to leave battle knowing full well I can't move?! Swimming in lag, but still fighting pointlessly?! God only knows how I've managed to keep so much isk lol! I have to agree that we need to keep these kinds of post up, and report our experiences to CCP to help with fixes. "Anybody order chaos?"
Demandred Moores Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 219	Posted - 2015.10.28 22:58:00 - [56] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Dust User wrote: PC is dead because all the fun people left and these new kids are too busy playing their carebear fufu land version of PC. PC was ever anything less than care bear fufu land???? Oh no a big bad corp is attacking, better get ringers. Oh no someone is mad at us better lock our district. So on and so on...... "PC was ever anything less than care bear fufu land??" Lol If you did not know there were many wars in PC, sadly none of this was/is ever noticed by the rest of the community. To be part of it you literally have to be in it. Oh no a waaaarrr. Yes people fought each other a couple of times every 48 hours while regenerating clones in between. Sounds like a real battle to me. I have seen bigger "wars" play out over the course of a day in FW of constant 32 man syncs battling for pure bragging rights. Sorry bro, you are not going to convince me that fighting once a day per district is anything more than care bear fufu land. Just like no one is ever going to convince me that an "end game" centered around scheduling battles 1 - 3 days later is actually an end game at all. To each his own I suppose. o7 You sir, should just shut up. What about 11 stacked battles against an alliance with 3x more people? Generating five times more battles in 3 hours than your fw all day through reups. **** your fw qsyncs you know nothing of war or pc or this game apparently if you think fw provides any real competition. All they provide is redlines. You want to see why pc is dead? Because even with free attacks, meaning you can't truly be kicked, corps will just bail from pc one they stay losing. Corps like oh, rg, and ecce have now all just given up after their farms were interrupted. Any good competition eventually quits rather than find a way to win. riseofancientFA.gs
Demandred Moores Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 219	Posted - 2015.10.28 23:20:00 - [57] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Unbearable lag, stacked teams, new bros don't stand a chance, no shows because they know they don't stand a chance, tacticslol, too much modded bs causing even more lag, map designs in PC are the same 5 maps lulz, etc. What Richard Gamerich said was true. Nobody wants a challenge, not really. Too many trolls looking to verify their own existence by downing new bros right out of interest in PC. In TOP we have some vets, but majority are legit new bros. Not in the sense of just started playing. They have SP, but no real PC experience. They suffer from pub tactic syndrome?! I enjoy squading with them, and training tactics, but 98% of our fights are elite vet teams or new bros no showing?! I try to encourage more players to play as I meet them, but guys simply don't want to be lagged and modded to death repeatedly?! I can't blame them, and have took a break from PC more than once myself. Hopefully some of these elite teams read this stuff, and realize the game will be more fun with more teams. Spread out and teach some new bro teams, and then fight each. Sgt kirk's crew vs arirana's crew ya know! Something to where future mercs are learning from some of the greats! I just have alot more fun training and fighting against normal players than I do the glitching, laggy, try hard teams with all the modded bs?! Some of you are really good players, and don't need that stuff. Just saying... I've honestly only ran into a handful of people I suspected of using modded controllers. Most didn't play PC. Lag is real, but "Mods" are a terrible excuse to getting schooled. No excuses lol! I'm the last person to care about someone saying I got schooled! Troll missed me lol! Everyone knows kd is just a number to me, and I play to fill the role I was asked to do. The fact of the matter is there's no way 100% me nor you know whether some mods are being used in PC or not, is there? You might know a guy or 2, and so do I, but that doesn't mean we know them all?! It's absurd to think with utter certainty that I know for a fact that users do or don't use things. I just know what I see with my eyes, same as anyone else. However, is it not true that any and all modification of all kinds being eradicated would definitely, at the least, aleviate that issue? It doesn't belong in the game, and that is a fact! It breaks the rules of the EULA! Don't care if it's one guy, or 50! Whether they pub stomp, or play PC isn't the issue. The fact that they are running it without ANY of us knowing the true repercussions of its effects 100% is enough for me to say get rid of it. Not here to argue with anyone. Just want to see more players and teams in PC, the lag gone, and have us all enjoy the mode. If that means someone has to get a refund, so be it. I got the stones to play, win or lose, and enjoy the game as is no extra. Some of us in this community aren't as God as they claim, and need a little edge... I don't. I have have an old corp mate in top, he said most of you were idiots that still think people can lag switch or cried "modded!" Teach them about the ram issue and to reset before EVERY PC, teach them real things, and get educated about what causes lag and how to prevent it because you can 90% of the time. I have never seen a modded controller in pc be an issue, and they don't really do anything helpful either. Reread this entire thread and ask yourself why no on plays pc, because people love excuses. Ps. kardia can't hit anything with a forge and has no gun game. The git guwd attitude is all that keeps this game alive not what kills it. CCP killed it you're retarted for blaming the people actually still playing saying we kill it. Idiots riseofancientFA.gs
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 14:45:00 - [58] - Quote Keep telling yourself that lol! Enjoy having the only team you fight be AE and SOG smh?! Everyone else will eventually say fck it as FW actually increases your overall net, while PC just dwindles it?! As I stated, top has a few vets, but mostly new bros still learning. Doesn't help getting new people into PC when add name here________, and you know who, is limbo glitching the whole match, and surviving multiple people shooting at him in a 400 ehp cal scout?! I frankly don't care which mod it is! None should work! If they were so useless nobody would use them, or any of the glitches. Double shotgun glitches, he'll I watched your own teammate shoot _______ from SOG with a bon's and register absolutely no dmg AT ALL! 8 shots, and he walks away untouched? We can keep saying it's not going on, fine. Everyone sux, players are dumb, and get gud scrub! There, did that actually make anyone want to play PC? It hasn't been working, and it won't! Because when new bro A and B both have prof 5 hmg, and are both shooting at 1 guy from 5 meters away and he strafes all the dmg to kill them both... they're not going to say "man he's good, I should get on his level"?! Fck outta here! All you're going to keep seeing is more players using common sense and not playing. More of the same 75 players in every single match. More teams doing the math and realizing it's not even worth it. I'll play PC as long as it's around I suppose, but how many are honestly going to keep saying that when all we have for them is "get gud"? Define "get gud"? And I'm not arguing with you, but I'm telling you guys what I'm hearing as I play with new players! When I see rf4 in a chat I ask two things: map? Eta? Alot of this guys ask: Against? If I say AE they might as well type .I. the way NO ONE x's up lol! They know they're about to just be lagged out?! How do we help that? If you guys know so much about controlling the lag post it up as some have done. We've done all the things the previous post have covered. We been relog ginger before every match, erasing fits, erasing mail, etc. I've tried two tons of stuff that does very little to fix anything, and in all honesty why are we having to do any of this in the 1st place? We focus on the fact that guys are not relog ginger instead of focusing on the fact that guys are having to do all this retarted sh*t just to play?! After you have prof 5, all your upgrades maxed, all the things us vets tell them to get, and it all means jack! How do you get new bros to still want to play PC? How do they get gud then? I have every skill I specced into maxed, and I have 92 mil SP. How much "gudder" am I going to get? I've played PC for almost 2 yrs, and have tons of experience, but no amount of ehp can survive the dmg some of these glitches and mods put out?! My hmg is maxed, and I overheat before killing ONE super strafer at 10 meters?! I watched as 4 of us, all pro 5, fired at a CalScout abusing the limbo glitch, and he did not get hit at 37 meters! Don't tell me it doesn't have any real effect. What I think you guys aren't understanding is when I say new bro I mean low experience in PC. They all have decent SP levels, but simply haven't played as much PC as you or I. So we teach them teamwork, flanking, switching, double up on targets, overwatch, area control, point defense, point assault, communication is key, etc. None of it matters when TTK against certain players seems instant?! Recoil is a myth with some players, and that's where the mods make their difference! Unless you guys want everyone to spend less time squading, and more time trying to research bs glitches, buying mods, and trying to cheat the system. I advise supporting the initiative to eliminate all this bs! Because I'm hearing more and more players buying bs out of necessity than ever before! Once this stuff is gone then you can send me all the "get gud scrub' mail you want lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.29 14:58:00 - [59] - Quote Demandred Moores wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Unbearable lag, stacked teams, new bros don't stand a chance, no shows because they know they don't stand a chance, tacticslol, too much modded bs causing even more lag, map designs in PC are the same 5 maps lulz, etc. What Richard Gamerich said was true. Nobody wants a challenge, not really. Too many trolls looking to verify their own existence by downing new bros right out of interest in PC. In TOP we have some vets, but majority are legit new bros. Not in the sense of just started playing. They have SP, but no real PC experience. They suffer from pub tactic syndrome?! I enjoy squading with them, and training tactics, but 98% of our fights are elite vet teams or new bros no showing?! I try to encourage more players to play as I meet them, but guys simply don't want to be lagged and modded to death repeatedly?! I can't blame them, and have took a break from PC more than once myself. Hopefully some of these elite teams read this stuff, and realize the game will be more fun with more teams. Spread out and teach some new bro teams, and then fight each. Sgt kirk's crew vs arirana's crew ya know! Something to where future mercs are learning from some of the greats! I just have alot more fun training and fighting against normal players than I do the glitching, laggy, try hard teams with all the modded bs?! Some of you are really good players, and don't need that stuff. Just saying... I've honestly only ran into a handful of people I suspected of using modded controllers. Most didn't play PC. Lag is real, but "Mods" are a terrible excuse to getting schooled. No excuses lol! I'm the last person to care about someone saying I got schooled! Troll missed me lol! Everyone knows kd is just a number to me, and I play to fill the role I was asked to do. The fact of the matter is there's no way 100% me nor you know whether some mods are being used in PC or not, is there? You might know a guy or 2, and so do I, but that doesn't mean we know them all?! It's absurd to think with utter certainty that I know for a fact that users do or don't use things. I just know what I see with my eyes, same as anyone else. However, is it not true that any and all modification of all kinds being eradicated would definitely, at the least, aleviate that issue? It doesn't belong in the game, and that is a fact! It breaks the rules of the EULA! Don't care if it's one guy, or 50! Whether they pub stomp, or play PC isn't the issue. The fact that they are running it without ANY of us knowing the true repercussions of its effects 100% is enough for me to say get rid of it. Not here to argue with anyone. Just want to see more players and teams in PC, the lag gone, and have us all enjoy the mode. If that means someone has to get a refund, so be it. I got the stones to play, win or lose, and enjoy the game as is no extra. Some of us in this community aren't as God as they claim, and need a little edge... I don't. I have have an old corp mate in top, he said most of you were idiots that still think people can lag switch or cried "modded!" Teach them about the ram issue and to reset before EVERY PC, teach them real things, and get educated about what causes lag and how to prevent it because you can 90% of the time. I have never seen a modded controller in pc be an issue, and they don't really do anything helpful either. Reread this entire thread and ask yourself why no on plays pc, because people love excuses. Ps. kardia can't hit anything with a forge and has no gun game. The git guwd attitude is all that keeps this game alive not what kills it. CCP killed it you're retarted for blaming the people actually still playing saying we kill it. Idiots Less or no recoil is enough to make any merc killer efficient. Modded controls, whether it's an actual controller or tien one, can do that for you. If it does nothing else you've done enough to make traditional common sense tactics pointless?! So your old corpy said that did he? Great, I've been to the moon.... Now that that's irrelevant, how do I, and I'm asking, go to players and ask them to play PC? When everything they've seen in PC seems fishy as F*CK? Not to count the fact that CCP has yet to fix the lag issue, but just all the other stuff? He's going to make a common sense decision, and type .I. when I say PC's are great lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
Starlight Burner 572	Posted - 2015.10.29 15:27:00 - [60] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Unbearable lag, stacked teams, new bros don't stand a chance, no shows because they know they don't stand a chance, tacticslol, too much modded bs causing even more lag, map designs in PC are the same 5 maps lulz, etc. What Richard Gamerich said was true. Nobody wants a challenge, not really. Too many trolls looking to verify their own existence by downing new bros right out of interest in PC. In TOP we have some vets, but majority are legit new bros. Not in the sense of just started playing. They have SP, but no real PC experience. They suffer from pub tactic syndrome?! I enjoy squading with them, and training tactics, but 98% of our fights are elite vet teams or new bros no showing?! I try to encourage more players to play as I meet them, but guys simply don't want to be lagged and modded to death repeatedly?! I can't blame them, and have took a break from PC more than once myself. Hopefully some of these elite teams read this stuff, and realize the game will be more fun with more teams. Spread out and teach some new bro teams, and then fight each. Sgt kirk's crew vs arirana's crew ya know! Something to where future mercs are learning from some of the greats! I just have alot more fun training and fighting against normal players than I do the glitching, laggy, try hard teams with all the modded bs?! Some of you are really good players, and don't need that stuff. Just saying... CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! ROCK BAND 4 OMG! =ƒÄ+GÖ¬



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