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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.26 02:13:00 -
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I want to offer a proposal for the Amarr Commando but before I make that proposal I want to gather the feedback of the community on the Amarr Commando so I want to ask some questions to the community.
1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
4. Why?
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.10.26 02:46:00 -
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1. Yes, since 1.7.
2. On a frequent basis, use it more than my Amarr Scout and a bit less than my Amarr Assault.
3. Under Powered
3. Amarr have 2 light weapons, and Amarr Assault is better.
4. Can't balance without changing Amarr Assault and Laser Operation.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.26 02:56:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I want to offer a proposal for the Amarr Commando but before I make that proposal I want to gather the feedback of the community on the Amarr Commando so I want to ask some questions to the community.
1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
4. Why?
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
1. Nope, but I was prior to respec.
2. Ran mostly Laser+Laser or Laser+ASCR (prior to respec).
3. Balanced compared to other Commandos. UP compared to Assaults.
4. Highly effective at ranged suppression. Not bad at wrecking face with dual ScRs.
5. Might be a little tight on resources, but I think it'd be best to reassess after reigning in Assaults.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.26 02:59:00 -
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Edit to question 3.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.26 03:38:00 -
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I'm skilled into it yes.
I actually only have the Storm Raiders set up because that suit is OP >.>
I find it to be on par with the other commando's, depending on how you use it.
As the the regular commando and not the officer, I normally fit it up with a scrambler and a mass driver. You basically kill shields like a champ and when they go run for cover, you get them with the splash from the mass driver. Or you can just use the regular ScR and deal massive damage, just watch the over heat. The Laser rifle on it is nice, though you don't get to run it long before it over heats, though it deals insane damage the moment just before.
I honestly find it pretty balanced, it could use a little bit more movement speed, but like all the other suits and weapon combos, it's all in how you use them for it to be really effective.
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Posted - 2015.10.26 03:56:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I want to offer a proposal for the Amarr Commando but before I make that proposal I want to gather the feedback of the community on the Amarr Commando so I want to ask some questions to the community.
1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando in post-Foxfour to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
4. Why?
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
Yes
Yes
Balanced but.......
Can dish out some damage with a AScR but overheat causes the laser rifle to be a liability at times.
Laser Rifle EATS AMMO. A Nanohive would be nice
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.26 04:30:00 -
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Ahoy is Archduke's thing.
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Hylian11
Opus Arcana
343
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Posted - 2015.10.26 04:36:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Ahoy is Archduke's thing.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.26 04:36:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Ahoy is Archduke's thing.
I actually did not realize why I put that there until right now.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.10.26 05:37:00 -
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It sucks.
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The Eristic
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.26 05:52:00 -
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1. My Amarr alt was originally created to proto it out shortly after the suit's introduction.
2. Yes.
3. Still a bit underwhelming. Not as bad as before, but the other Commandos are all more viable in a wider range of scenarios.
4. Lack of bonused weapon variety, Assault bonus comfortably outshines the flat damage on the Laser and vanilla ScR. Still a little too slow + lousy regen for its hitbox and mediocre tankability. All the other Commandos can be built to run solo rather well. Amarr, not so much.
5. More laser weapon variants with somewhat reduced risk of overheat and/or rethinking of Operations and Amarr role bonuses. Slightly better innate armor repair. Also, I'd rather have the Sentinel slot layout (which might make the rep buff unnecessary). The second high slot is pretty much pointless.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.26 09:01:00 -
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amarr commando can fire SCR continuously till you have to reload with a double SCR fit.
fire your SCR, before you overheat switch weapon to second SCR, rinse and repeat.
imho that is how the amarr commando should be used. the long range laser is much better on the assault.
it lacks is a racial AV option though. |
jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.26 09:02:00 -
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1.yep
2.yep
3.its pretty balanced
4.good dps, range and hp.
5.i think its the amarr weapons themselves (or lack of them) that makes it less usefull than other commandos. leave the suit alone.
p.s. amarr is the only commando without an av option right now. we ran a commando squad with 1 of each race yesterday and the amarr just had to hide and wait for the rest of us to deal with vehicles. but for long range area defence and support fire its pretty tough to beat.
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.26 09:23:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I want to offer a proposal for the Amarr Commando but before I make that proposal I want to gather the feedback of the community on the Amarr Commando so I want to ask some questions to the community.
1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando in post-Foxfour to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
4. Why?
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
Before the Foxfour uber scr nerf the amarr commando used to be decent with 2 x LP imperial proto scrambler rifle in close range u could hip fire spam fast trigger up to 15 a 19 shot and switch to ur second light scr to in case of over heating. |
Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.26 09:31:00 -
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1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
Yes, lvl 5.
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
Semi frequent. Mainly for swarm launcher anti dropship capability.
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando in post-Foxfour to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
Underpowered
4. Why?
Two reasons. Firstly, the Amarr assault bonus makes it a superior choice for using Amarr weapons. Particularly the laser rifle. Amarr weapons are balanced with the heat reduction in mind, making them underpowered when not used by the assault.
Secondly, the Amarr commando is the only commando without a bonus to an AV weapon.
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
The commando needs the same heat reduction bonus as the assault. Perhaps some or all of the damage bonus should be replaced with the heat reduction. This is mainly due to the way the laser rifle works, making heat reduction extremely valuable.
I also like the proposal floating around to reduce both the scrambler and laser heat build up, and the heat reduction bonus. This would leave Amarr weapons in the same state as they are now for skilled Amarr suits, but more viable on suits without the heat bonus.
Also I think we should have an AV variant of the laser rifle. This would give all commandos a specialist AV weapon. Perhaps the properties of this laser would make it ineffective against infantry.
Alternatively an EM swarm launcher variant. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.10.26 09:45:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:I want to offer a proposal for the Amarr Commando but before I make that proposal I want to gather the feedback of the community on the Amarr Commando so I want to ask some questions to the community.
1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando in post-Foxfour to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
4. Why?
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
L5 Commando and have been since the suit respec we got oh so long ago.
L5 ScR
L5 Laser Rifle
The Amarr Commando bonus is not bad.
Laser rifles are very fun on it once you get the weapon heated up it seriously burns through some HP.
The ScR is kept feasible by the Amarr Commando but its just no fun really. It is useless against anything besides scouts if you want to use charge shots. You pretty much just have to use it as a TAC AR. You would be better off with a Galmando and an AR.
Unfortunately I can not compare to other commandos since I do not have them. I will say that it feels like it is in a bit of a weird place. I think it could use a VERY little buff to either movement speed, HP, or even base regen rate. |
rpastry
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.26 10:08:00 -
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1. Are you skilled into the Amarr Commando?
yes
2. If you answer was yes to the previous question, do you use the Amarr Commando on a frequent basis? (If your answer was no put N/A)
been using it pretty exclusively for the event
3. Do you find the Amarr Commando in post-Foxfour to be OP, UP, or balanced compared to the other Commandos?
only run min to compare to, but id say balanced
4. Why?
with ascr and laser its a niche role but one its really good at - ranged suppression on open maps or roofs with enough tank and dps to handle odd scouts and assaults close range. bit frustrating vs proto armour tanked/fast assaults but melts caldari (as it should). you can argue the assault is better with a laser due to heat management and having grenades but i'd counter that the damage bonus and second light weapon balance that nicely.
the min commando with CR/MD has the advantage in closed areas. not used it that much but amazed how many kills you get by spamming the MD behind cover, however its weaker tank and shorter range make it more vulnerable in its role.
5. Do you think the Amarr Commando needs a change? If so what kind of change? (racial bonus, stats, etc.)
no. i've run it armour tanked with 2 damage mods and a compact hive. once you get used to heat management it has worked as well as other suits k/d wise, but as its more situational its taken longer to get the kills than first time round (when i ran a gal assault with AR).
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Regnier Feros
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.26 11:33:00 -
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1. Yes
2. No, the reason I skilled into it because I was going to make it my go-to AV suit, but since there isn't a racial AV weapon for the Amarr....
3. Depends on the setup, Ascr is really deadly on it, the Laser kinda works but you can't preheat it like you can do with the Amarr assault, & as for the normal scr it's effective when keeping your distance.
4.^
5. I don't know, I feel as though the commando itself is fine, but it's just the weapons that's holding it back
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2015.10.26 12:30:00 -
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1: Yes
2: well define freqeunt. I use it often enough, but its not my go-to suit by any means. If i need to breach an objective or fight shotgun assaults, then i run a shotgun + assault scrambler fit.
3) Balanced well enough.
4) Its a bruiser, an HP monster. It is the harderst commando to run solo with (slow + poor regen) , but as a part of a squad it really shines in terms of ranged damage output, cqc support, and as a logi triage WP cow.
5) No change needed. All the other suggestions are trying to turn it into a tankier amnarr assault.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:06:00 -
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Keep the feedback coming, some good stuff here.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.27 05:23:00 -
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I encourage people who are not even skilled into the Amarr Commando to participate as well, just take a few moments of your time and answer this survey please!
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.27 17:02:00 -
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bumping
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