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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.21 21:45:00 -
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Sanchez Rivera wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Man, I started playing right after rouge wedding.
this ain't sh*t compared to how bad it was back then.
hell yeah I would. Hmmmmmm... I Wonder How Bad Was It Back Then...? o.o But I'm Happy That The Yes Train Is Getting Full DUST 514 Is Special Than
It wasn't.... We ALL started in easy mode compared to the current NPE. You realize they are nerfing officer gear production for a reason right? Almost everyday on here I am working with new players, but sadly most never stay more than a couple weeks. They enjoy the game until they realize just how far they are from even being able to be competitive in the current environment then some group of assholes comes along and redline stomps them one too many times and they beg you to move to another game with them because they would rather have fun than "grind". WE DID NOT GRIND...we put in time with most of us within 5 mill SP of each other. There was no officer or experimental gear, no warbarge bonuses, ADS, MYOs, or habitual roof camping. We played an actual tactical shooter with full teams and comparatively few leaves. So, the truth is most of us would not stay any longer than they do.
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
243
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Posted - 2015.10.21 21:49:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Man, I started playing right after rouge wedding.
this ain't sh*t compared to how bad it was back then.
hell yeah I would. Hmmmmmm... I Wonder How Bad Was It Back Then...? o.o But I'm Happy That The Yes Train Is Getting Full DUST 514 Is Special Than It wasn't.... We ALL started in easy mode compared to the current NPE. You realize they are nerfing officer gear production for a reason right? Almost everyday on here I am working with new players, but sadly most never stay more than a couple weeks. They enjoy the game until they realize just how far they are from even being able to be competitive in the current environment then some group of assholes comes along and redline stomps them one too many times and they beg you to move to another game with them because they would rather have fun than "grind". WE DID NOT GRIND...we put in time with most of us within 5 mill SP of each other. There was no officer or experimental gear, no warbarge bonuses, ADS, MYOs, or habitual roof camping. We played an actual tactical shooter with full teams and comparatively few leaves. So, the truth is most of us would not stay any longer than they do.
Well put
Something is killing new player retention.
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
428
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Posted - 2015.10.21 22:14:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Man, I started playing right after rouge wedding.
this ain't sh*t compared to how bad it was back then.
hell yeah I would. Hmmmmmm... I Wonder How Bad Was It Back Then...? o.o But I'm Happy That The Yes Train Is Getting Full DUST 514 Is Special Than It wasn't.... We ALL started in easy mode compared to the current NPE. You realize they are nerfing officer gear production for a reason right? Almost everyday on here I am working with new players, but sadly most never stay more than a couple weeks. They enjoy the game until they realize just how far they are from even being able to be competitive in the current environment then some group of assholes comes along and redline stomps them one too many times and they beg you to move to another game with them because they would rather have fun than "grind". WE DID NOT GRIND...we put in time with most of us within 5 mill SP of each other. There was no officer or experimental gear, no warbarge bonuses, ADS, MYOs, or habitual roof camping. We played an actual tactical shooter with full teams and comparatively few leaves. So, the truth is most of us would not stay any longer than they do.
And the vets act like they gave blood sweat and tears for officer/proto then tell new players to git gud. I'm lucky I've met some great people on here otherwise it would seem like a community of bitter spoiled vets. Not very appealing to new players.
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:33:00 -
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Xvos Reigns wrote:I would definitely keep playing.
The customization. The grind. The people I have met, befriended, and the ones I have yet to meet. The challenge.
No game is fun when it's ++ber easy and everything is handed to you. Look at destiny. That's trash. Every level and every boss has "glitches" that allow you to finish with little to no work or challenge.
I find this boring.
I want to fight.
I want the challenge. Without it there is no sense of accomplishment or gain.
Also we miss ya bud. o7
Heyyy Boss
I'm With You There, Pretty Much The Challenge Is One Of The Best Parts Of This Game
Except For Getting BPOs In Boxes
And Yeah, Why Would You Play A Very Easy Game...?
Its No Fun Indeed, Just Like You Said
Miss Ya People Too, Talk To That Friend Of Mine, I Miss The Low / 0% Tax
o7 X2
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:35:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Ok, Let's Say You Start Playing DUST 514 Today... Would You Keep On Playing It...? Or Would You Stop Playing It...? Let Me Know Why If Possible Good Day People! Define playing it... Cuz id log on but not go into battle till i got key skills maxed otherwise no point after academy since youll just get stomped and way to frustrated to keep going.
Well Yeah, I Mean Playing Playing It o.o
I'll Take Yours As A No, But Its A Big Pain To Start Indeed, Specially If You Plan On Not Paying X_X
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:37:00 -
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Unholy HateGore wrote:Yes because for some strange reason I am hooked like electronic crack to this game despite all the problems and stomps. If the going gets tough I switch to BPO or snipe. Saves money.
Well Said Bro
That Is Pretty Much How New Players Should Play
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:42:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:No, I would of quit after 2-3 hours. Reason being is that there is nothing there to really help the new players. I created another account so I could confirm this and find out what it is like from their point of view. Of course I did have a better understanding of Dust, so I did not fail as hard.
First, there are no prompts to teach you basic controls and commands. Yes, by now most people would of played an FPS and know the commands would be similar, however the lack of tutorial for something so common and basic is a bit nerve racking. Hell, the Souls series (Demon Souls, Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2) is notorious for throwing you to the wolves, but they do teach you the basics first and give you some lube. Because of this, you will be spending the first match learning how to move, like a baby taking it's first steps.
Second, there is no tutorial for skills or fitting loadouts. This is actually something that is crucial to the game yet there is no prompt or anything teaching you how/what to do. Previously there was, however it was no longer there (Note for this experiment I borrowed my mate's PS3 and made a new account using a new email and stuff).
Thirdly, Instant Battle Academy over too quickly. Once you reach over 2,000 lifetime WP, you are thrown to the wolves. For a new player, this really won't take that long, and once they are thrown out to the wolves, they are f.cked. There is no way a new player can compete with a vet or even someone who has been here for a few months, and it is not only because of protosuits and gear, but mainly skills and SP. The new players dont have the SP to stomp back.
Now this game is absolutely amazing, and it is easily within my top three favourite games for the PS3, and in my top 10 of all time favourites, however if I was a new player who never even heard of Dust or EVE, I would of uninstalled after a couple hours.
Edit: All these tutorials can be veiwed under the help menu in your neocom, but let's be honest here, how many people would sit there and go through all of it?
Yes, Yes, Yes! And YES!!!
In Short...
I Still Get People That Ask Me: "I Wanna Buy A Weapon But It Won't Let Me, Can You Help Me?"
I Think Almost Everyone Had That Experience...
Well Said Bro
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
289
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:44:00 -
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Without hesitation, yes. Certainly wouldn't be any more difficult than the first year for me, 3 years ago. Got my butt whooped big time for first year -- until I finally figured out that this just isn't your normal FPS. Add to that the ever-changing nature of the game, unlike static FPS games. Always something new to learn/do in Dust 514 !
CEO of G.R.A.V.E
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:48:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:So I started playing about 2.5 months ago now and I gotta say it was tough to get to 6mil SP, which ain't ****. I've played EVE and many different games, mostly on PC, so the complexity of the interface and how skills are unlocked weren't new to me. Understanding what they all translated to in gameplay was not very easy to understand.
It wasn't until almost a month in that I saw guides talking about racial weapons and finally understood what suit types give what bonuses to which weapons etc... But by then I had wasted SP on not so important side weapons and such.
Now that my suits average 25-33 meta I'm playing with full officer and proto suits. I can almost instantly tell when I've come across a stacked suit. Their shields and armor are just higher, you can feel it right away. Conversely since I do have some decent kits, I can feel it against weaker suits than my own, I melt some people so fast I feel bad. Then I realize how often that happens to me and I have to say, I melt people less often than I get melted lol.
My buddy started playing with me and he luckily had downloaded the game and created a character quite awhile ago and forgot. He had 21mil SP stocked up, so I helped him skill up to proto in a few categories. He said he hates playing without it now because he gets rektd otherwise, only problem is he barely had enough isk to pay for his skills so he's limited in running proto.
He gets immensely frustrated when he's forced to use militia or standard gear because he is new to the tactical FPS genre. I have asked him if he would keep playing if he didn't have so much SP starting off and he said probably not. Only because he has less patience for this game, not knowing EVE and having no tie to the New Eden universe. This really diminishes the importance of Dust. That is probably the only reason I've kept playing, feeling like Dust will get ported and it will be something great. That and a few really friendly helpful folks on here who make me wanna log on everyday just to say what's up.
I would recommend Dust 514 to someone, only if I could put a big warning label on it. Tell them they are going to feel frustrated by many things ranging from technical problems to ******* players, but if they get into a decent corp with a good community they can have a lot of fun. I'd let them know the depth of Dust which can be frustrating can also be the most engrossing part, so appreciate the depth.
Exactly, We Have Had Some Similar Experiences Than, Pretty Much Old Friends Ask Me About Fittings, About Dying To Quickly, About Not Being Able To Buy Stuff, A TON Of Things Really
And To Quickly Reply You...
I Pretty Much Tell Everyone This Game Is Haaaaaard, Only Patient People May Survive
Thanks For The Post
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:50:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I probably would stop playing because : -pubstomp fresh out of the Academy -black screen, infinite defeat /victory screen -not knowing how to invite my friends to play with me -lag
Lol
In Short...
All This Indeed
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:51:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Ok, Let's Say You Start Playing DUST 514 Today... Would You Keep On Playing It...? Or Would You Stop Playing It...? Let Me Know Why If Possible Good Day People! I'd quit since I hadn't invested 3 years and who knows how much money on it..id go full blown PC nerd and probably drink less Would still get high though
Ok...?
No In Short
+1 Thanks
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:52:00 -
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captainIreland wrote:If I was a new player I would think my merc was blind and that's why I can't see anything when I spawned in
True
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:54:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Sned TheDead wrote:Man, I started playing right after rouge wedding.
this ain't sh*t compared to how bad it was back then.
hell yeah I would. Hmmmmmm... I Wonder How Bad Was It Back Then...? o.o But I'm Happy That The Yes Train Is Getting Full DUST 514 Is Special Than It wasn't.... We ALL started in easy mode compared to the current NPE. You realize they are nerfing officer gear production for a reason right? Almost everyday on here I am working with new players, but sadly most never stay more than a couple weeks. They enjoy the game until they realize just how far they are from even being able to be competitive in the current environment then some group of assholes comes along and redline stomps them one too many times and they beg you to move to another game with them because they would rather have fun than "grind". WE DID NOT GRIND...we put in time with most of us within 5 mill SP of each other. There was no officer or experimental gear, no warbarge bonuses, ADS, MYOs, or habitual roof camping. We played an actual tactical shooter with full teams and comparatively few leaves. So, the truth is most of us would not stay any longer than they do. Well put
This!
Well Said
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:56:00 -
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FraggerMike wrote:Without hesitation, yes. Certainly wouldn't be any more difficult than the first year for me, 3 years ago. Got my butt whooped big time for first year -- until I finally figured out that this just isn't your normal FPS. Add to that the ever-changing nature of the game, unlike static FPS games. Always something new to learn/do in Dust 514 !
I'm Glad That People Would Still Play This Games Again
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 19:58:00 -
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I Guess It Depends, If You Aren't Patient... You Wont Last Long
But If You Are, You May Survive
Thanks People!
I Guess I'll Let The Rest Keep Talking Freely
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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sizwe sizzle
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K Damage LLC
19
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Posted - 2015.11.20 20:13:00 -
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Sanchez Rivera wrote:Ok, Let's Say You Start Playing DUST 514 Today... Would You Keep On Playing It...? Or Would You Stop Playing It...? Let Me Know Why If Possible Good Day People! Wont play this game tried to play it without skills when I bought my skill tree reset and it is b.s
Stafes like a boss =ƒÿÄ jumps higher than the MCC
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
105
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Posted - 2015.11.20 20:14:00 -
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sizwe sizzle wrote:Sanchez Rivera wrote:Ok, Let's Say You Start Playing DUST 514 Today... Would You Keep On Playing It...? Or Would You Stop Playing It...? Let Me Know Why If Possible Good Day People! Wont play this game tried to play it without skills when I bought my skill tree reset and it is b.s
Yeah, I Guess Going Back To 0 Would Feel Really Bad
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Makuta Miserix
Nos Nothi
645
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Posted - 2015.11.20 20:19:00 -
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Assuming I had no knowledge of the game before playing it, no, most likely not.
The level of brutality outside of the academy is quite literally incomparable to what I experienced in the beta. The amount of players who know the game inside-out is very large compared to back then.
Couple that with a severe skill gap between new players and vets and I'd be shocked if I considered it worth my time.
Shepard: You have a ship named Qwib-Qwib?
Tali: Oh, here we go.
Private Beta Vet Dust 514/Starhawk
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
631
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Posted - 2015.11.20 23:45:00 -
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Yes. Not a single play style or fitting is an answer to everything. |
Refreak 44
DEPT OF CORRUPTION The Empire of New Eden
23
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Posted - 2015.11.21 05:13:00 -
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The reason I started playing was because I saw those sick looking dropsuits in the first E3 trailer. The reason I kept playing was because I thought they would be implemented as the pilot dropsuit. The reason I still play is because I hang around funny people. These factors considered, if they happened in the same order, yes, I would keep playing.
\o/
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
1
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Posted - 2015.11.21 06:50:00 -
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It's a disease, an addiction.
No other game will give you your dust fix. The flavor isn't for everyone, a bit metallic. Gritty even. Those who acquire the taste crave it endlessly.
From dust we came, and shall return.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
4
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Posted - 2015.11.21 07:30:00 -
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Sanchez Rivera wrote:Ok, Let's Say You Start Playing DUST 514 Today... Would You Keep On Playing It...? Or Would You Stop Playing It...? Let Me Know Why If Possible Good Day People!
Yes but take breaks. I miss being new, not going what was going on but still kept interest. I'd do more research on it before playing so I'm not a complete newb like i was.
Cal & Min saults/Min & Gal scouts/Cal & Gal mandos/Gal heavy
PS4 & PC>PS3
Autistic Athlete
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
6
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Posted - 2015.11.21 08:07:00 -
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And people want to port the game in this state.
smh >.>
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
1
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Posted - 2015.11.21 14:01:00 -
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definitely not. i'd have no isk or sp, yet see people with vast quantities of both, then see an uneven as hell game, and to top it all off no corp or dust homies?
hellll no.
Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó
Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3
Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.21 15:23:00 -
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probably..because i wouldnt realize how terrible it was due to not being around to see it turn to ****
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.11.21 17:25:00 -
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If I was a new player today. Nope wouldn't bother play again.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.11.21 17:39:00 -
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I would still continue to play dust because the player interaction is some of the best I have ever experienced.
The Mistress of Massdrivers
Buying TaireiGÇÖs CrimsonGÇÖ AM-L skins 4m ea
Check out my thread in player
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
108
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Posted - 2015.11.21 18:14:00 -
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Wow! So Many People Commenting Here, Glad To Know Dust Still Has An Intense Flame Going On
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
108
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Posted - 2015.11.21 18:17:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:Assuming I had no knowledge of the game before playing it, no, most likely not.
The level of brutality outside of the academy is quite literally incomparable to what I experienced in the beta. The amount of players who know the game inside-out is very large compared to back then.
Couple that with a severe skill gap between new players and vets and I'd be shocked if I considered it worth my time.
That's Something I Missed o.o
Based On No Knowledge About The Game, But Yeah, I Would Say Its Pretty Hard For A New Player These Days, And Not Knowing About It Would Make It Even Worst
+1
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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Sanchez Rivera
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
109
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Posted - 2015.11.21 18:19:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:And people want to port the game in this state.
smh >.>
I Think I'm Used To All The Errors And Stuff Now, So I Guess...
Why Not...? o.o
Buuuuuuttttt Not Killing It On The PS3
I Want To Have All The BPOs :3
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