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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:37:00 -
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For making the experimental lab only produce experimental weapons.
However could we get it to produce sidearms too? I'm not skilled into any light weapons so yeah...
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
30
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:39:00 -
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u serious???? only exp wep now??
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:39:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:u serious? only exp wep now? Correct. Officer weapons can be found in strongboxes and EoM salvage.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:41:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:u serious???? only exp wep now?? Makes sense, it is an EXPERIMENTAL lab, maybe we will get an OFFICER lab in the future, probably not though...
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:46:00 -
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its will reduce the officer gear, but i never use them .... i make money from them...... absolutely not good for me :( n i always get stupid modules from stupid box, i think its ok to take some std or adv wep out of box, cuz no more officer wep from lab
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.21 01:50:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:its will reduce the officer gear, but i never use them .... i make money from them...... absolutely not good for me :( n i always get stupid modules from stupid box, i think its ok to take some std or adv wep out of box, cuz no more officer wep from lab You can make people pay more for officer now.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:06:00 -
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I seem to get more officer gear with it at lvl 2+
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:10:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I seem to get more officer gear with it at lvl 2+ That's not possible, CCP changed the Experimental Lab to only produce Experimental weapons.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:12:00 -
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a reduction in the component cost for producing experimental weapons would be nice, but no complaints here, just dreaming of going component-positive heh. |
XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:14:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:a reduction in the component cost for producing experimental weapons would be nice, but no complaints here, just dreaming of going component-positive heh. I personally think that it shouldn't cost components at all.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
890
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:18:00 -
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What's the point of components except a heavy night of drinking then waking up to find you have 100k?
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
30
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:21:00 -
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i think ccp should do something to component, dont just make us sell them for some isk. mayb cost some component when claiming wep , so ppl wont get officer gear that easy,they have to go battle instead sitting there n do some trading. n its balanced lol
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Ateroith
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
295
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Posted - 2015.10.21 02:53:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:its will reduce the officer gear, but i never use them .... i make money from them...... absolutely not good for me :( n i always get stupid modules from stupid box, i think its ok to take some std or adv wep out of box, cuz no more officer wep from lab You make money from them, others lose too much from them. The loss to earn ratio of officer gear being produced that much is TOO DAMN HIGH! Think about it, people in PC's use officer gear a lot. Let's say, 1 mil for a Frame's, for example. They take that suit into battle, either die quickly or survive long enough to win the match without losing too much gear. When dying quickly, that's a repeated loss of 1 mil each spawn (considering that you respawn with the same fit). But, on the other hand, winning the match results in a loss of currency for the other PC. Too much officer gear opposing to their fresh protos lose Corp ISK, and player ISK as well (because of death).
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
510
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:39:00 -
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:its will reduce the officer gear, but i never use them .... i make money from them...... absolutely not good for me :( n i always get stupid modules from stupid box, i think its ok to take some std or adv wep out of box, cuz no more officer wep from lab A lot of my friends still use experimental gear. People would take them. It's still better than proto. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:41:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:For making the experimental lab only produce experimental weapons.
However could we get it to produce sidearms too? I'm not skilled into any light weapons so yeah... this was a very stupid change on thier part. soon, it will go back to no one using them ever
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:43:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:For making the experimental lab only produce experimental weapons.
However could we get it to produce sidearms too? I'm not skilled into any light weapons so yeah... this was a very stupid change on thier part. soon, it will go back to no one using them ever Still better than proto.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:46:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:For making the experimental lab only produce experimental weapons.
However could we get it to produce sidearms too? I'm not skilled into any light weapons so yeah... this was a very stupid change on thier part. soon, it will go back to no one using them ever Still better than proto. at a price which will be alot higher, already 1m per suit, if it goes up, who's going to waste that? in pc? i'm not even going to bother.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:For making the experimental lab only produce experimental weapons.
However could we get it to produce sidearms too? I'm not skilled into any light weapons so yeah... this was a very stupid change on thier part. soon, it will go back to no one using them ever Still better than proto. at a price which will be alot higher, already 1m per suit, if it goes up, who's going to waste that? in pc? i'm not even going to bother. Oh sorry I thought you were talking about experimental weapons. My mistake.
On officer weapons, I think that people still get a lot from strongboxes and that people currently have a lot stockpiled so while the use of officer will go down (which is good for pubs at least), it will not go down so far as to people never using them.
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:48:00 -
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The fact that people are now second-guessing if they should use officer stuff at all is proof enough that the change has worked as intended.
Something is killing new player retention.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:52:00 -
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I know that whenever I get Nothi knives or officer smgs (which is like never) I use them in the first pub I get a chance to play in, because I know I'll never get to use it in a PC. (Speedhacking ftw)
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415
636
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Posted - 2015.10.21 04:43:00 -
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oooh yessss !!! +Ķam ! The Tears !!!
Experimental Lab = Experimental only... nice :)
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
30
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Posted - 2015.10.21 05:37:00 -
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Ateroith wrote:Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:its will reduce the officer gear, but i never use them .... i make money from them...... absolutely not good for me :( n i always get stupid modules from stupid box, i think its ok to take some std or adv wep out of box, cuz no more officer wep from lab You make money from them, others lose too much from them. The loss to earn ratio of officer gear being produced that much is TOO DAMN HIGH! Think about it, people in PC's use officer gear a lot. Let's say, 1 mil for a Frame's, for example. They take that suit into battle, either die quickly or survive long enough to win the match without losing too much gear. When dying quickly, that's a repeated loss of 1 mil each spawn (considering that you respawn with the same fit). But, on the other hand, winning the match results in a loss of currency for the other PC. Too much officer gear opposing to their fresh protos lose Corp ISK, and player ISK as well (because of death).
ppl choose to run officer gear by theirselves, n i guess they r pretty rich n can afford them, they r probably those who get most isk from pc, so thats not a question i think, aot friend of mine dont care losing those gear, cuz they can afford anyways...... n they enjoy the game cuz no need to worry about running out of isk
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1
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Posted - 2015.10.21 09:26:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:u serious? only exp wep now? Correct. Officer weapons can be found in strongboxes and EoM salvage.
supposedly they can be found in EoM lol i haven't seen any in EoM since they brought out strongboxes and seeing as they've killed the Experimental lab i think the drop rate of officer gear from strongboxes may need tweaking a small amount.
Problem i have is that the game has swung more in favor of a 'pay to win' system now. The only place now to get a high chance of getting officer gear in by opening 10 boxes at once, sure you can get a key per day for free but someone who has an extra $50 a week/month will have access to more officer gear than those who just play for free.
I think they should have just changed the drop rate of officer gear from the exp lab instead of removing officer altogether. if you have 2 items a day thats 14 items a week, if only 2-4 of those were officer it would greatly reduce the amount we see in game. It was a bit ridiculous before, i redeemed 4 items and all 4 were rattatis Gk.0's so it did need streamlining, just not completely removing
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
226
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Posted - 2015.10.21 10:30:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack wrote:u serious? only exp wep now? Correct. Officer weapons can be found in strongboxes and EoM salvage. supposedly they can be found in EoM lol i haven't seen any in EoM since they brought out strongboxes and seeing as they've killed the Experimental lab i think the drop rate of officer gear from strongboxes may need tweaking a small amount. Problem i have is that the game has swung more in favor of a 'pay to win' system now. The only place now to get a high chance of getting officer gear in by opening 10 boxes at once, sure you can get a key per day for free but someone who has an extra $50 a week/month will have access to more officer gear than those who just play for free. I think they should have just changed the drop rate of officer gear from the exp lab instead of removing officer altogether. if you have 2 items a day thats 14 items a week, if only 2-4 of those were officer it would greatly reduce the amount we see in game. It was a bit ridiculous before, i redeemed 4 items and all 4 were rattatis Gk.0's so it did need streamlining, just not completely removing
TBH the whole 'increasing power' progression system should be re-considered. It's boring. It only gives the illusion of choice. If it's there to be had, of course people are going to scramble for the most powerful equipment in a PvP only game. Until they get there they'll always feel gimped. An 'increasing specialization' system is much more appropriate.
And as you've said when the most powerful items have a pretty reliable source that you can pay to get extras of, well it doesn't do good things for balance. Dust is not pay-to-win, but when you combine a system of consumable gear with the fact that you can only get the most reliable source of god-tier gear once per day through normal gameplay... well it certainly impacts how effective the free-to-player can be on the battlefield.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
1
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Posted - 2015.10.21 13:24:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I seem to get more officer gear with it at lvl 2+ That's not possible, CCP changed the Experimental Lab to only produce Experimental weapons. Then how am I getting officer stuff out of it some times still? o.O
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 14:40:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I seem to get more officer gear with it at lvl 2+ That's not possible, CCP changed the Experimental Lab to only produce Experimental weapons. Then how am I getting officer stuff out of it some times still? o.O Probably a bug.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.21 15:02:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I seem to get more officer gear with it at lvl 2+ That's not possible, CCP changed the Experimental Lab to only produce Experimental weapons. Then how am I getting officer stuff out of it some times still? o.O Probably a bug. Ah, never mind, it sees to have corrected itself :/
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