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Genral69 death T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K The T.H.I.R.D Empire 820	Posted - 2015.10.20 21:57:00 - [1] - Quote So the new event gives all players the chance to get a skill tree reset and a Amman light skin. As a player nearing 100mil sp I'm in no need for a skill tree reset as I have pretty much all I need. Yes I am speced into the amarr lift frame and scout but as it's skill is nothing outstanding rarly see it on the battle field. All this event will achieve is property getting.g respects and people running around in a very underpowered suit https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.10.20 21:59:00 - [2] - Quote The respec token might be nice if CCP ever makes a drastic change down the road. I agree it is not as valuable for veterans, but it's nice to have. The SKIN is only cool because normally to get a SKIN CCP would gouge you for $10... "I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 1	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:02:00 - [3] - Quote 85mil SP player here. I could care less about the SP reset. I'll us it however to bump some of my skills points out of some suits I never use and put it into weaponry, alongside ADS specific skills. CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Jalame La Bola Shining Flame Amarr Empire 122	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:02:00 - [4] - Quote The new event is pointless for people that actually work for a living and have a wife and baby to take care of. Mamenme El Bicho. Mami's a hurricane, you should see the way she blow me. Hecho en Puerto Pobre.
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:03:00 - [5] - Quote its a free reset and a free skin yet you still find a way to complain about it? if you don't want it don't keep it, you can give it away or sell it (the skin) as for the rest even at 100 mill you should still not have everything maxed out and you can always skill out of something you dont use to something that you do especially if you hold on to it and something new comes out that takes a bit of sp to get into Reserved
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 454	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:06:00 - [6] - Quote Umm... Before the reset i have one question. Say you got a skill maxed before the multiplier went up (e.g HAV skill) Do you get back the skill points invested...? Or do you lose skill points? Forever ADS. Best role.

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 2	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:08:00 - [7] - Quote You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

Aeon Amadi 13	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:18:00 - [8] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. Beat me to it, Archduke. Thanks for commenting. I'm of the volition that next time we do any event we should just not give rewards. Yanno like, "Get 100 Kills and get NOTHING!" that might put some things in perspective for the people who want to do nothing but complain. Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog Skype: nomistrav
Genral69 death T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K The T.H.I.R.D Empire 820	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:19:00 - [9] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I'm not saying the skill tree reset was a bad idea however the skin is, your offering a chance to get a skin for a frame what %2 of the player base actually use if that https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 2	Posted - 2015.10.20 22:22:00 - [10] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. Make the token tradeable. No one can cry then Crush them

Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:22:00 - [11] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. The worst part of this event is that many who actually need the skill reset can't even get it because stupid black screens, lag everywhere, and we have lives too. Why can't we have a freeeeeeeeee respec???????? Why does school start so early??? a bit later and I could possibly get that respec. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:26:00 - [12] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. The worst part of this event is that many who actually need the skill reset can't even get it because stupid black screens, lag everywhere, and we have lives too. Why can't we have a freeeeeeeeee respec???????? Why does school start so early??? a bit later and I could possibly get that respec. Have you gone to the weekly leaderboards to see how many kills you have for the current week? Doing that will help put into perspective how easy or difficult completing this event will be for you.
Kinky Fat Bastard 118	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:29:00 - [13] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. TBH though, you should reset certain skills automatically when you completely change bonuses etc. Eg. Recent changes with Minmando bonuses and swarms People shouldn't have to pay for a respec in those situations.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:29:00 - [14] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: So the new event gives all players the chance to get a skill tree reset and a Amman light skin. As a player nearing 100mil sp I'm in no need for a skill tree reset as I have pretty much all I need. Yes I am speced into the amarr lift frame and scout but as it's skill is nothing outstanding rarly see it on the battle field. All this event will achieve is property getting.g respects and people running around in a very underpowered suit So are you suggesting CPM should take a look at the Amarr Scout Suit bonus?
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:31:00 - [15] - Quote Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. TBH though, you should reset certain skills automatically when you completely change bonuses etc. Eg. Recent changes with Minmando bonuses and swarms People shouldn't have to pay for a respec in those situations. No one is making anyone pay for a respec.
Kinky Fat Bastard 118	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:32:00 - [16] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. TBH though, you should reset certain skills automatically when you completely change bonuses etc. Eg. Recent changes with Minmando bonuses and swarms People shouldn't have to pay for a respec in those situations. No one is making anyone pay for a respec. Obviously you're unemployed and your time is worth nothing?
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 563	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:32:00 - [17] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I literally just bought one so I could go ads..about 3 weeks late =ƒÿÜcool idea but I no longer need one CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Imps>NS>NF
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:33:00 - [18] - Quote Those poor vets... So much SP and ISK that they don't know what to do with themselves. It must be tough. I bet if you tell your problems to the newbros, they will totally sympathize. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:33:00 - [19] - Quote You can skill into your smart scout so that you can where the skin. "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
Genral69 death T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K The T.H.I.R.D Empire 822	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:34:00 - [20] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Genral69 death wrote: So the new event gives all players the chance to get a skill tree reset and a Amman light skin. As a player nearing 100mil sp I'm in no need for a skill tree reset as I have pretty much all I need. Yes I am speced into the amarr lift frame and scout but as it's skill is nothing outstanding rarly see it on the battle field. All this event will achieve is property getting.g respects and people running around in a very underpowered suit So are you suggesting CPM should take a look at the Amarr Scout Suit bonus? That as well as giving s skin for a disirered frame https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread

D4GG3R Opus Arcana 2	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:35:00 - [21] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I'm not saying the skill tree reset was a bad idea however the skin is, your offering a chance to get a skin for a frame what %2 of the player base actually use if that That's why you get the respec "Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs." -Nega Matix I watch anime for the boobs
Genral69 death T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K The T.H.I.R.D Empire 822	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:36:00 - [22] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Those poor vets... So much SP and ISK that they don't know what to do with themselves. It must be tough. I bet if you tell your problems to the newbros, they will totally sympathize. Oh I'm sorry I crave something new https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
catsrule D3ATH CARD RUST415 49	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:36:00 - [23] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I'm not saying the skill tree reset was a bad idea however the skin is, your offering a chance to get a skin for a frame what %2 of the player base actually use if that Try to get the skin asap then sell it to the people who actually have lives, they pay great prices Why do we forget the things we want to remember but remember the things we want to forget ~ Unknown
Genral69 death T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K The T.H.I.R.D Empire 822	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:37:00 - [24] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Genral69 death wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I'm not saying the skill tree reset was a bad idea however the skin is, your offering a chance to get a skin for a frame what %2 of the player base actually use if that That's why you get the respec I already have amarr scouts -_- https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 00:45:00 - [25] - Quote Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. TBH though, you should reset certain skills automatically when you completely change bonuses etc. Eg. Recent changes with Minmando bonuses and swarms People shouldn't have to pay for a respec in those situations. No one is making anyone pay for a respec. Obviously you're unemployed and your time is worth nothing? I'm not unemployed, I am at work right now. As for my time, when I first started playing this game after looking at the 'skill tree' I immediately knew SP management was very important and so I managed my SP very well. I do value my time and that is why I made sure not to screw up my SP investment.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.10.21 01:05:00 - [26] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Those poor vets... So much SP and ISK that they don't know what to do with themselves. It must be tough. I bet if you tell your problems to the newbros, they will totally sympathize. Oh I'm sorry I crave something new Then you had better think of something to increase new player retention so more people will make purchases and CCP will have a bigger budget for Dust. If all you want is to be catered to as a vet, then you may as well kiss new things goodbye. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Kinky Fat Bastard 118	Posted - 2015.10.21 01:07:00 - [27] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. TBH though, you should reset certain skills automatically when you completely change bonuses etc. Eg. Recent changes with Minmando bonuses and swarms People shouldn't have to pay for a respec in those situations. No one is making anyone pay for a respec. Obviously you're unemployed and your time is worth nothing? I'm not unemployed, I am at work right now. As for my time, when I first started playing this game after looking at the 'skill tree' I immediately knew SP management was very important and so I managed my SP very well. I do value my time and that is why I made sure not to screw up my SP investment. But CCP can screw up you SP investment anytime they like. Which would be the main reason people ask for respecs or buy respecs. I'll go back to the Minmando issue, only reason I skilled Minmando was for the bonus to swarms - now after foxfour that bonus has gone to the Calmando? I have neither the time or the inclination to grind 514 kills (I've played approx 6 matches since beginning of September) and I certainly wouldn't pay for a respec - how long will it take me using passive SP to skill up Calmando lvl 5? And whose to say that after I do that the bonus doesn't get moved to another suit? Archduke made the comment that they get a lot of tickets requesting respecs - they would get less requests if they behaved reasonably in these situations and refunded skill trees when they made fundamental changes to suit bonuses etc.
MrShooter01 Ustio Mercenary Squadron 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 01:12:00 - [28] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 890	Posted - 2015.10.21 02:01:00 - [29] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. This and Sarum event almost resembles Lore. Although the human interaction is great giving players the depth in lore that cappys have may aid in retention and buying Templar One and the like... That can link you with strong advocates in EvE that could also bump for a port keeping us your favorite toxic community that puts food on the table. ONE VOICE//ONE COMMUNITY Support Dust/EvE cross content
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 02:28:00 - [30] - Quote Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: But CCP can screw up you SP investment anytime they like. Which would be the main reason people ask for respecs or buy respecs. I'll go back to the Minmando issue, only reason I skilled Minmando was for the bonus to swarms - now after foxfour that bonus has gone to the Calmando? I have neither the time or the inclination to grind 514 kills (I've played approx 6 matches since beginning of September) and I certainly wouldn't pay for a respec - how long will it take me using passive SP to skill up Calmando lvl 5? And whose to say that after I do that the bonus doesn't get moved to another suit? Archduke made the comment that they get a lot of tickets requesting respecs - they would get less requests if they behaved reasonably in these situations and refunded skill trees when they made fundamental changes to suit bonuses etc. Hold up. You have only averaged playing one match a week for the past month-and-a-half? Don't expect to accomplish much in this game if you are going to play it so infrequently. If you want Calmando Level 5 using nothing but Passive SP it will take you a long time and it should take you a long time. You don't easily skill up to the best of something particular in this game by not making a committed effort. I'm not sure what all to say without risking coming off as a complete *******. Play the game more and learn to use more than just Swarm Launchers.

Ateroith KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 295	Posted - 2015.10.21 02:49:00 - [31] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I was trying my best not to say this, but I really do think 514 kills is too much. At least for me. People are pretty busy, and taking time from their lives just for a skill tree respec that sounds REALLY GOOD, seems impossible to those who have no time on their hands. I dunno what else to say, because that is the gist of my argument. I get the challenging part of the event, but it just seems too exclusive for those who are able to play a lot for that 7 day range. Just an idea, feel free to criticize: Maybe base the next event's grand reward on WP (war points)? It may seem too logi rich, but to be honest, you don't see people tryharding their ***** off to use officer logi. Most of the time, I'd say they'd use officer assault, to get people off of objectives, push, and hold. Logi's can't do that, they can keep the team alive, regardless of how efficient the gear your teammates are running. I don't see much people running logi in pubs, so I guess it would be a fair alternative instead of pure assault. Do you kind of get what I'm saying? Make WP a thing, so we can see an increase in logis to keep assaults or heavies still in line. My opinion is there are too little logis running out there. Of course, too many logis and you have a broken team. Healers healing healers, not very good. But assaults can get WP too. IDK, if you have any refutes, please tell me. I would like to see the side I am missing. "...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 151	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:01:00 - [32] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I think what people are saying and I could be wrong. Is THANK YOU CCP for this free to play game and for giving us more free stuff every month (well not lately) and for trying to put out competitions for people to play so the game does not get old. But even though we appreciate all of this could you please fix the game so that our frustration level does not get jacked up every time a new patch comes out and we have more problems than before. I for one am very thankful for CCP and look forward to playing dust every night, but if only they could get rid of some of the MAJOR things that want us to toss the game away. Namely for me black screen of death, spawning into walls and stuff and areas that grab you and do not let go. Every thing else we can live with since it is free, but the other stuff really frustrates the player base since it costs us money and time with no refund from CCP for lost isk. Of course the stress of not knowing the future of DUST on ps4 or pc and the possible loss of the player base also raised peoples frustration levels and then they will complain about anything. Again THANK YOU CCP for the game and the free stuff, but please spend some time on important things that are eroding the player base. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Shaun Iwairo DUST University Ivy League 218	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:03:00 - [33] - Quote Ateroith wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I was trying my best not to say this, but I really do think 514 kills is too much. At least for me. People are pretty busy, and taking time from their lives just for a skill tree respec that sounds REALLY GOOD, seems impossible to those who have no time on their hands. I dunno what else to say, because that is the gist of my argument. I get the challenging part of the event, but it just seems too exclusive for those who are able to play a lot for that 7 day range. Just an idea, feel free to criticize: Maybe base the next event's grand reward on WP (war points)? It may seem too logi rich, but to be honest, you don't see people tryharding their ***** off to use officer logi. Most of the time, I'd say they'd use officer assault, to get people off of objectives, push, and hold. Logi's can't do that, they can keep the team alive, regardless of how efficient the gear your teammates are running. I don't see much people running logi in pubs, so I guess it would be a fair alternative instead of pure assault. Do you kind of get what I'm saying? Make WP a thing, so we can see an increase in logis to keep assaults or heavies still in line. My opinion is there are too little logis running out there. Of course, too many logis and you have a broken team. Healers healing healers, not very good. But assaults can get WP too. IDK, if you have any refutes, please tell me. I would like to see the side I am missing. 514 kills is a bit steep. I know it's the name of the game but I wondered if they ever checked to see how many people hit the ~75 kills/day to actually reach it? Even if they pulled data from the last event where people were killing for a prize. I'm a logi, and that's the choice I make as a player. I'll never get upset about slayer-only events, even if my role - when done properly - will prevent the community reaching the goal. But slaying isn't the only play-style, and kills aren't the only way you can measure participation. It would be nice to see an event that didn't reward kills specifically, but some other metric. WP would be great for that. Something is killing new player retention.
IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 233	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:06:00 - [34] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: GM Archduke wrote: Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY Knew what that link was going to be before it even loaded, bravo.
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 151	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:13:00 - [35] - Quote [/quote] But CCP can screw up you SP investment anytime they like. Which would be the main reason people ask for respecs or buy respecs. I'll go back to the Minmando issue, only reason I skilled Minmando was for the bonus to swarms - now after foxfour that bonus has gone to the Calmando? I have neither the time or the inclination to grind 514 kills (I've played approx 6 matches since beginning of September) and I certainly wouldn't pay for a respec - how long will it take me using passive SP to skill up Calmando lvl 5? And whose to say that after I do that the bonus doesn't get moved to another suit? Archduke made the comment that they get a lot of tickets requesting respecs - they would get less requests if they behaved reasonably in these situations and refunded skill trees when they made fundamental changes to suit bonuses etc. [/quote] While I do not agree with everything you say, I do agree that when such a drastic change is made like the swarm then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone ***** about something like this? Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your token. Change AV give tokens ot AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward and people don't feel ripped off. Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:24:00 - [36] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Ateroith wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. I was trying my best not to say this, but I really do think 514 kills is too much. At least for me. People are pretty busy, and taking time from their lives just for a skill tree respec that sounds REALLY GOOD, seems impossible to those who have no time on their hands. I dunno what else to say, because that is the gist of my argument. I get the challenging part of the event, but it just seems too exclusive for those who are able to play a lot for that 7 day range. Just an idea, feel free to criticize: Maybe base the next event's grand reward on WP (war points)? It may seem too logi rich, but to be honest, you don't see people tryharding their ***** off to use officer logi. Most of the time, I'd say they'd use officer assault, to get people off of objectives, push, and hold. Logi's can't do that, they can keep the team alive, regardless of how efficient the gear your teammates are running. I don't see much people running logi in pubs, so I guess it would be a fair alternative instead of pure assault. Do you kind of get what I'm saying? Make WP a thing, so we can see an increase in logis to keep assaults or heavies still in line. My opinion is there are too little logis running out there. Of course, too many logis and you have a broken team. Healers healing healers, not very good. But assaults can get WP too. IDK, if you have any refutes, please tell me. I would like to see the side I am missing. 514 kills is a bit steep. I know it's the name of the game but I wondered if they ever checked to see how many people hit the ~75 kills/day to actually reach it? Even if they pulled data from the last event where people were killing for a prize. I'm a logi, and that's the choice I make as a player. I'll never get upset about slayer-only events, even if my role - when done properly - will prevent the community reaching the goal. But slaying isn't the only play-style, and kills aren't the only way you can measure participation. It would be nice to see an event that didn't reward kills specifically, but some other metric. WP would be great for that. I understand what you are saying but I should point out that not too long ago we had an event that catered to more than just the Assault Players. You remember the event where we had to hack a bunch of objectives, destroy a bunch of installations, and do some other stuff? That event stands out to me right now because the hacking-portion of that event truly introduced me to the awesomeness of the GalScout and allowed me to realize that I do pretty damn well at Ninja Hacking in Skirmish matches. Not all events are going to be able to cater to every role. If this particular event doesn't work for your playstyle then just simply hope the next event does. The best thing to do is to start suggesting new event ideas that cater to specific roles. -or- Go all SlayerLogi with your Logi Suit or put the Logi Suit away and use another role for the event. You need to diversify your capabilities in this game; this event might be the opportunity to help you do that.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:27:00 - [37] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: --------------------------------------------------------- But CCP can screw up you SP investment anytime they like. Which would be the main reason people ask for respecs or buy respecs. I'll go back to the Minmando issue, only reason I skilled Minmando was for the bonus to swarms - now after foxfour that bonus has gone to the Calmando? I have neither the time or the inclination to grind 514 kills (I've played approx 6 matches since beginning of September) and I certainly wouldn't pay for a respec - how long will it take me using passive SP to skill up Calmando lvl 5? And whose to say that after I do that the bonus doesn't get moved to another suit? Archduke made the comment that they get a lot of tickets requesting respecs - they would get less requests if they behaved reasonably in these situations and refunded skill trees when they made fundamental changes to suit bonuses etc. [/quote] While I do not agree with everything you say, I do agree that when such a drastic change is made like the swarm then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone ***** about something like this? Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your token. Change AV give tokens ot AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward and people don't feel ripped off.[/quote] This is a pretty good idea right here. I like it. +1
Shaun Iwairo DUST University Ivy League 218	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:41:00 - [38] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: You remember the event where we had to hack a bunch of objectives, destroy a bunch of installations, and do some other stuff? That event stands out to me right now because the hacking-portion of that event truly introduced me to the awesomeness of the GalScout and allowed me to realize that I do pretty damn well at Ninja Hacking in Skirmish matches. Not all events are going to be able to cater to every role. If this particular event doesn't work for your playstyle then just simply hope the next event does. Cool cool, I don't think I was around for that event. The recent ones that come to mind are the two x million clone challenges (100% slayer), Amarr challenge (wp, kills, finish battles for increasingly better minor prizes in that order, win battles for major prize) and this Blood Raider one (wins for minor prize, kills for major prize). Recently it seems slanted towards slaying but historically I'm sure it's not. I really am holding out for the next few challenges that aren't centered around kills. Something is killing new player retention.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 510	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:57:00 - [39] - Quote Genral69 death wrote: So the new event gives all players the chance to get a skill tree reset and a Amman light skin. As a player nearing 100mil sp I'm in no need for a skill tree reset as I have pretty much all I need. Yes I am speced into the amarr lift frame and scout but as it's skill is nothing outstanding rarly see it on the battle field. All this event will achieve is property getting.g respects and people running around in a very underpowered suit Could always keep it in your pocket, sell it, give it to a noob in need?
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 510	Posted - 2015.10.21 03:59:00 - [40] - Quote [quote=GM Archduke]You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. [/quote http://m.imgur.com/gallery/gNs6Upq

Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 04:43:00 - [41] - Quote Shaun Iwairo wrote: Summa Militum wrote: You remember the event where we had to hack a bunch of objectives, destroy a bunch of installations, and do some other stuff? That event stands out to me right now because the hacking-portion of that event truly introduced me to the awesomeness of the GalScout and allowed me to realize that I do pretty damn well at Ninja Hacking in Skirmish matches. Not all events are going to be able to cater to every role. If this particular event doesn't work for your playstyle then just simply hope the next event does. Cool cool, I don't think I was around for that event. The recent ones that come to mind are the two x million clone challenges (100% slayer), Amarr challenge (wp, kills, finish battles for increasingly better minor prizes in that order, win battles for major prize) and this Blood Raider one (wins for minor prize, kills for major prize). Recently it seems slanted towards slaying but historically I'm sure it's not. I really am holding out for the next few challenges that aren't centered around kills. I think the biggest limitation on events might be what CCP is easily able to keep stats on. I'm not sure how they have everything set up but I know if you put in a request to view your lifetime personal stats Archduke is readily able to provide you with your lifetime 1) kill assists, 2) kill assists in vehicles, 3) kills, 4) match wins, and 5) objectives hacked (there are some other stats that are provided such as matches lost, suicides, and deaths but I don't think an event focused around those stats would be a good idea). Ideas for events centered around those 5 stats I feel would most likely be the easiest events to come to fruition. I personally would like to see an event that focuses on achieving Objective Defense WPs because I feel that would be a good event for Sentinels. Whether or not the DEVs are able to easily keep track of something like Objective Defense WPs is something I don't know. I would also like if there was an event that focused on earning Triage WPs because I think that would be a good event for Logis. If the DEVs are able to keep track of kills with Head Shots then I think an event focused around that would be good for Snipers. Again though, I have no idea what the DEVs or the CPM are easily able to do when it comes to events.
Union118 TH3 STRUGGL3 789	Posted - 2015.10.21 05:43:00 - [42] - Quote Im only 46 mill and i want my respec. If i had not biomassed long ago id probably be up there in the 80 mill range and would not need it. But there are a lot of things i dont have anymore. My ultimate fav was back in beta days a suit called raven and it was my fav free caldari suit with 2 high and 2 low, one equipment slot fited with a exile and toxic sub machine gun. It was sweet lookin too. I miss it the most and if it was in market id buy it for sure. Old school is way better. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.21 05:49:00 - [43] - Quote Free ISK and a boat load of unallocated SP taken out of your stuff you do not want any more. No matter what it works out well whenever you choose to use it. Sitting at 80 million SP says I have no real need for mine but I certainly do not mind having it on the back burner for some point in the future.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 426	Posted - 2015.10.21 14:20:00 - [44] - Quote A noob wis probably not gonna get 514, YOU, my bitter vet friend, can. The re-spec was meant for us to get out of skill trees(Minnando), for free. Noob wants a respec he or she has to try hard. Which we all had to do starting out playing this game. Plus you get a skin in the process. Everyone should be able to get 21 wins. \0/
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC 3	Posted - 2015.10.21 14:23:00 - [45] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. Beat me to it, Archduke. Thanks for commenting. I'm of the volition that next time we do any event we should just not give rewards. Yanno like, "Get 100 Kills and get NOTHING!" that might put some things in perspective for the people who want to do nothing but complain. I.... want that sort of event.. /Z)/V//V- /V)_/` /V)´/``/-// Learning 'Never stop moving ever' from lots of people /V//V_//\
Sir Petersen D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2015.10.21 14:41:00 - [46] - Quote I might dress up for this special occasion in my BPO Dragonfly suit paired with some other cheap and/or easy to kill gear for everyone to enjoy. :)
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.21 14:53:00 - [47] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. The worst part of this event is that many who actually need the skill reset can't even get it because stupid black screens, lag everywhere, and we have lives too. Why can't we have a freeeeeeeeee respec???????? Why does school start so early??? a bit later and I could possibly get that respec. Have you gone to the weekly leaderboards to see how many kills you have for the current week? Doing that will help put into perspective how easy or difficult completing this event will be for you. Thing is I can really only play Saturday mornings. For a few matches. And like 1 match a day before school. Second thing is mom gave tv away and I'm stuck using HDTV which has serious input lag. So I kinda suck now. There's a small chance I can get to respec but I'd have to rely a lot on logis while I heavy. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 151	Posted - 2015.10.21 18:33:00 - [48] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: dreth longbow wrote: --------------------------------------------------------- But CCP can screw up you SP investment anytime they like. Which would be the main reason people ask for respecs or buy respecs. I'll go back to the Minmando issue, only reason I skilled Minmando was for the bonus to swarms - now after foxfour that bonus has gone to the Calmando? I have neither the time or the inclination to grind 514 kills (I've played approx 6 matches since beginning of September) and I certainly wouldn't pay for a respec - how long will it take me using passive SP to skill up Calmando lvl 5? And whose to say that after I do that the bonus doesn't get moved to another suit? Archduke made the comment that they get a lot of tickets requesting respecs - they would get less requests if they behaved reasonably in these situations and refunded skill trees when they made fundamental changes to suit bonuses etc. While I do not agree with everything you say, I do agree that when such a drastic change is made like the swarm then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando and no problems for anyone. This would work for everything and stop the crying. If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days. How could anyone ***** about something like this? Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your token. Change AV give tokens ot AV and vehicles. The game gets to move forward and people don't feel ripped off.[/quote] This is a pretty good idea right here. I like it. +1[/quote] Thanks Death before dishonor. Adapt or Die war is hell
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.10.21 18:43:00 - [49] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Those poor vets... So much SP and ISK that they don't know what to do with themselves. It must be tough. I bet if you tell your problems to the newbros, they will totally sympathize. So, they get to rearrange their useless lump of SP into a slightly less useless lump in a shiny SKIN? Nirvana. That, and let them pour a couple of years (pfft) into this game and see how wistfully they look at a respec then. There are four main races in DUST514: The Amarr, bla, bla, and bla.
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.21 18:46:00 - [50] - Quote 32mil SP Vet (been playing since 2013 with a couple months off here and there) here, the respec is much needed for me, too many mistakes, too many regrets. Event is not pointless for me, will just be hard for me to do due to work and family. Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs

Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 427	Posted - 2015.10.21 19:30:00 - [51] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: You would not believe how often players request a Skill Respec. There were hundreds of forum posts and tickets regarding this. We know for a fact that this is something the majority of the DUST 514 player base wants, and has been asking for ever since the first respec ever happened. Naturally there will be players who don't need this, sure. You can keep it as a souvenir or you can chose not to participate... Also, it's quite clear that no matter what event or update we do, there will be players who disagree, or complain. Anyhoo, this is for the greater good. This is awesome for new players who have spent SP on skills not helpful to their later found playstyle preferences. Thank you!
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 119	Posted - 2015.10.22 00:41:00 - [52] - Quote Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: But CCP can screw up you SP investment anytime they like. Which would be the main reason people ask for respecs or buy respecs. I'll go back to the Minmando issue, only reason I skilled Minmando was for the bonus to swarms - now after foxfour that bonus has gone to the Calmando? I have neither the time or the inclination to grind 514 kills (I've played approx 6 matches since beginning of September) and I certainly wouldn't pay for a respec - how long will it take me using passive SP to skill up Calmando lvl 5? And whose to say that after I do that the bonus doesn't get moved to another suit? Archduke made the comment that they get a lot of tickets requesting respecs - they would get less requests if they behaved reasonably in these situations and refunded skill trees when they made fundamental changes to suit bonuses etc. 1. It goes with the territory...People playing for awhile know that by now... 2. That's the pitfall when you dump millions of SP into a suit just for one specific bonus... Rightly or wrongly, I decided to skill into Gal suits/weapons and let the bonuses compliment my playstyle instead of the other way around -- So even if drastic changes come to Gal gear in the next patch, I can adapt and move on... 3. If you play that infrequently, why does this even bother you? Pardon me for saying, but you'd be better off just investing in basic suits, which offer more versatility to offset the lack of a bonus...


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