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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:30:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:It's almost like all the feedback on MinMando respecs made an impact or something. Then they should have just given out the respec then. Not make people play to get one. Credit to them for giving one, but it should have just been a handout.
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Regnier Feros
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Yanno, for the next event, I might just tell the guys at CCP make it 10,000 community wide laser rifle kills as the mission. That's cool!!!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:36:00 -
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You know what , I would if I didn't feel so sour about this game as of late and that's what WE are here for , to have each other's back and help one another , if you took what I said as a condemnation then you misunderstood me , all I was basically saying is what most already know and that is , it could have been better and a event that promoted teamwork is better .
One that gives rewards that everyone could benefit from would have been better .
Maybe when I start to feel better about what's going on around here then that would be a thing but right now , my head just isn't in the game as of late because I just feel sour about how issues are just not being addressed .
Someone told you to take it easy and I suggest the same but next time , maybe there should be a thread asking the community what they would like to see in a event and take the best idea's out of that and condense it and roll with that but I do know that we need an event that promotes teamwork and not killing x amount of players .
People complain about teamwork , players leave matches for the lack of teamwork , OFC / PRO squads stomp easily because of the lack of teamwork among other things .
If you felt that I was attacking you then I apologize because I wasn't , I'm more upset with CCP then anything else .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You know what , I would if I didn't feel so sour about this game as of late and that's what WE are here for , to have each other's back and help one another , if you took what I said as a condemnation then you misunderstood me , all I was basically saying is what most already know and that is , it could have been better and a event that promoted teamwork is better .
One that gives rewards that everyone could benefit from would have been better .
Maybe when I start to feel better about what's going on around here then that would be a thing but right now , my head just isn't in the game as of late because I just feel sour about how issues are just not being addressed .
Someone told you to take it easy and I suggest the same but next time , maybe there should be a thread asking the community what they would like to see in a event and take the best idea's out of that and condense it and roll with that but I do know that we need an event that promotes teamwork and not killing x amount of players .
People complain about teamwork , players leave matches for the lack of teamwork , OFC / PRO squads stomp easily because of the lack of teamwork among other things .
If you felt that I was attacking you then I apologize because I wasn't , I'm more upset with CCP then anything else .
I didn't think you were attacking me, just gets really old hearing about how things should be done differently but no-one has a better alternative or answer because there is no better alternative or answer. If there were, we would have gone that route instead. Just telling you like it is. Killing, winning, and WP generation are practically the only things to do in this game.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Echo 1991
Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:40:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:It's almost like all the feedback on MinMando respecs made an impact or something. Then they should have just given out the respec then. Not make people play to get one. Credit to them for giving one, but it should have just been a handout. Nothing should be a handout in this game. I'm sorry but a lot of people don't have the time to get 514 kills in a week. Which means that a load of people aren't going to benefit from the event.
As I have said I fully respect CCP giving out a respec, but if it was because they changed things it should have been handed out.
Wanna play eve?
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Yanno, for the next event, I might just tell the guys at CCP just to not do rewards at all since you people are never happy. Would save us all a lot of headaches. I mean if you're going to complain anyway, at least it'd save the CPM and CCP some delegation and work.
EDIT: And yeah, go ahead and give the obligatory "Oh but you're supposed to represent us" and "Waaah CPM material" BS, heard it all before, it's all just white noise at this point.
Just so you know, I'm on your side with this one and I find that the members of the community complaining about this event are acting like little *******.
It is unreasonable for the community to expect every single event to cater to all players given the diversity of character roles in this game.
If a person wants to complain that this event isn't going to work out for them then that person should try to come up with suggestions for future events that will accommodate their playstyle. I highly doubt this will be the last event this game ever has.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:49:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:It's almost like all the feedback on MinMando respecs made an impact or something. Then they should have just given out the respec then. Not make people play to get one. Credit to them for giving one, but it should have just been a handout. Nothing should be a handout in this game. I'm sorry but a lot of people don't have the time to get 514 kills in a week. Which means that a load of people aren't going to benefit from the event. As I have said I fully respect CCP giving out a respec, but if it was because they changed things it should have been handed out.
No. Players have been asking for a respec for a while now. It was a complementary reward that had nothing to do with changes and likely will not be a thing to expect after changes. However, the high demand -after- those changes was coincidental in the timing with which that reward was offered. Players aren't entitled to respecs due to changes.
And yanno, if you don't have the time for 514 kills, can always just buy a respec.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:57:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yanno, for the next event, I might just tell the guys at CCP just to not do rewards at all since you people are never happy. Would save us all a lot of headaches. I mean if you're going to complain anyway, at least it'd save the CPM and CCP some delegation and work. See , your just not getting it and it's not our fault . That's a childish take on the matter if you ask me . It would be best to look at the situation from the outside looking in and not from the inside looking out , you guys read and see what the main issues are as of late , you could have built whatever it was that you were trying to do around that or those things instead of just copy and pasting another event together . When was the last time that we had an event that promoted teamwork ? With all of the issues as of late , what could we do to help generate gameplay and keep the communities tempo and feeling upbeat ? So with players leaving matches and uneven matches , what could be done to lessen this effect without having work for the Dev's to do until their able to address these issues ? All you guys had to do is come up with an event that promotes teamwork , helps players feel like their fighting for something and not just a select few and given the respec out for free because that would have boosted morale and helped with all the issues that the game has been having as of late . You need events that promote play and profit all and not a select few or certain playstyles . That's not hard to see or understand , you guys need to start promoting the game and the best way to do that is to touch everyone involved and not just certain or selected few . I just don't see that as asking for too much and it would be great for the business and the morale of the game with all that's going on or better yet , not going on lately .
How about this? You pick the best role you run in this game and come up with an event targeted around that then suggest it to the community here on the forums.
Let me get your started. You want an event that will promote teamwork? How about an event where the objective is to get 500 assists in one month? Or how about, and this is only if CCP is capable of doing this, we have an event that targets Logis in where they have to achieve X amount of Intel WPs or repair X amount of Armor over a certain period of time.
Try running with these two ideas and see what you can come up with. |
Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.10.21 03:11:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
And yanno, if you don't have the time for 514 kills, can always just buy a respec.
Lol advertising.
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:50:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Yanno, for the next event, I might just tell the guys at CCP just to not do rewards at all since you people are never happy. Would save us all a lot of headaches. I mean if you're going to complain anyway, at least it'd save the CPM and CCP some delegation and work.
EDIT: And yeah, go ahead and give the obligatory "Oh but you're supposed to represent us" and "Waaah CPM material" BS, heard it all before, it's all just white noise at this point. Ah, The "I know exactly what kind of dweeb I'm being, so if I say it first it doesn't count" defense.
Classy.
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catsrule
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.21 17:22:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3000848#post3000848 Not too shabby. Maybe we should all run paper scouts to make it easier on other to reach kill count faster. I usually get 1000-1500 kills a week playing how I always play, so if I go full try hard.... This will be fun af
Why do we forget the things we want to remember but remember the things we want to forget ~ Unknown
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Xeriphem
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2015.10.21 17:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:It's almost like all the feedback on MinMando respecs made an impact or something. I already had Minmando and Calmando at level five. Made me no never mind, just moved my swarms to my Calmando and played on. The same on the Galass and the AR, both at level five already.
I'm WHERE?!
"If you're playing fair, you're not doing it right!" - Jenza Aranda
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dreth longbow
Bank of DUST 514
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Posted - 2015.10.21 19:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:It's almost like all the feedback on MinMando respecs made an impact or something. Then they should have just given out the respec then. Not make people play to get one. Credit to them for giving one, but it should have just been a handout. Yes, requiring people to actually play the game in order to earn powerful rewards is awful and we should do away with it immediately.
I do not see this sarcasm helps the community. If some thought would be put into what you do and drastic changes like what just happened were avoided or mitigated then people would not want a respec.
Honestly screwing over someone and then making them work to fix your screw up is not giving them a powerful reward!
Here is a recommendation I have for CCP.
When such a drastic change is made like the swarm/minmando then a respec of minmando should be done automatically. So to elaborate, swarm bonus removed from minmando then respect everyone their minmando sp and costs. If this is done their is no bases for complaints and it is fair. If you want to keep minmando then just skill it back up, those who only skilled into it for the swarm could now skill up to calmando or something else and no problems for anyone.
This would work for everything and stop the crying.
If CCP has the ability to issue tokens for a respec then they should be able to issue a token for the minmando with a 7 day expiration period. That would allow people to keep playing and if they don't like the change for swarm/minmando then they use the token but they have to make their mind up in the next 7 days.
How could anyone complain about something like this?
Another example would be:
Change Hav's, play for next week if you don't like it then use your Hav respec token. Change AV give tokens out to AV and vehicles.
The game gets to move forward (very important) and people don't feel ripped off (just as important). What does this do for CCP? Builds trust in player base and allows players options which keep players and also lightens the load on tickets and complaints.
Sounds like a win win situation.
Death before dishonor.
Adapt or Die war is hell
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Cesar Geronimo
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.22 00:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: No. Players have been asking for a respec for a while now.
Players have had the option for an Aurum respec for awhile now... All this is going to do is reward the FOTM chasers, imho |
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