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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:30:00 -
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If you're going to try to start a riot against me, at least be accurate with your claims. I'm not against respecs. In fact, I advocated that players receive a free yearly respec.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:35:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:#Bring back chrome
#Bring back LogiLAVS
#Bring back all the things
#Old Manus Peak
Lol, right? When it was actually a peak and not Manus Plateau?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.18 14:46:00 -
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The KTM Duke wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:If you're going to try to start a riot against me, at least be accurate with your claims. I'm not against respecs. In fact, I advocated that players receive a free yearly respec. "Your choice matter*" *lol it was a joke, lets turn dust in a P2W and mostly why dont we help FOTM chasers a bit more? Every time i read a post made bu you i understand even more why i didnt vote you for CPM
And yet, here I am.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:09:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Grind? Just dont play the game, upgrade to a PS4 and find yourself a new game to play on that. Its not really hard isnit? I've already got a PS4. I'm on my last leg here. You won't have to worry about me volunteering to be a representative of a game that I no longer play. I've just never been able to quit. That fun match that you get once in a while somehow renews my passion for the game. You have years of evidence to look at. The risk/reward mechanics that people seem to romance about created an environment much more harsh than the one people whine about today. Mechanics that prevented any shift in power. The only times anything changed were periods of time after burnouts. Players finally have the ability to build wealth and utilize higher tier gear to push back against those they despise and they want to see it stripped away. If these mechanics with PC, FW, and Trading existed in May of 2013 this game would be much different. You'd have average corps with larger numbers providing a balance against elite corps and starter corps able to introduce their players to PC with raids. Corporations would have been able to train as a team all day in FW and several times per day through raids in PC. The mechanics that we pleaded for from the start are here and all anybody can do is complain about proto and how hard it is to solo matches. It's just a shame and on my way out I'm pulling a Jerry McGuire.
Mountains out of molehills.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.18 16:15:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Grind? Just dont play the game, upgrade to a PS4 and find yourself a new game to play on that. Its not really hard isnit? I've already got a PS4. I'm on my last leg here. You won't have to worry about me volunteering to be a representative of a game that I no longer play. I've just never been able to quit. That fun match that you get once in a while somehow renews my passion for the game. You have years of evidence to look at. The risk/reward mechanics that people seem to romance about created an environment much more harsh than the one people whine about today. Mechanics that prevented any shift in power. The only times anything changed were periods of time after burnouts. Players finally have the ability to build wealth and utilize higher tier gear to push back against those they despise and they want to see it stripped away. If these mechanics with PC, FW, and Trading existed in May of 2013 this game would be much different. You'd have average corps with larger numbers providing a balance against elite corps and starter corps able to introduce their players to PC with raids. Corporations would have been able to train as a team all day in FW and several times per day through raids in PC. The mechanics that we pleaded for from the start are here and all anybody can do is complain about proto and how hard it is to solo matches. It's just a shame and on my way out I'm pulling a Jerry McGuire. Mountains out of molehills. Or mountains made to molehills.
Question for you, Bright Cloud - on the assumption we sell SP for 1m SP per $1... Considering that there would only be about $300 worth of SP to purchase, why even have the skill system for any reason other than to create a barrier for non-paying players? Why have boosters if their only purpose to advance SP gains when you could just buy the SP outright? Why have the respec tokens for any reason than to redistribute your 296m SP right back into the same exact skills that they are required for?
Or do you just criticize others without thinking about the other side of your own proposals?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:52:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:If you're going to try to start a riot against me, at least be accurate with your claims. I'm not against respecs. In fact, I advocated that players receive a free yearly respec. smh Thor you're on the right track to what is killing Dust and returning players. APEX's has completely destroyed this games very CONCEPT it was built around - risk vs reward. It used to be a place where casuals got stomped, only the strong survive, etc. HULK THE F UCK UP - ADAPT OR DIE - concepts that have been removed because our community went from us trying to convince CCP to make Dust an MLG game - to being overwhelemed with filthy casuals. And now those filthy casuals have voted in people who support PC port over PS4 port, and believe in further destroying the concepts this game was built upon, while claiming they're doing it for the sake of balance. it's become so idiotic how vets like this have fallen so low just because they never could keep up to begin with.
For clarification, I'm the one that is starkly against APEX BPOs and I believe Thor wants them to be retained. Think there may have been some confusion there.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.19 03:01:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:My PTSD from dealing with Soroya Xel has been awakened by Aeon so I'd like to ask how many people want a return to the No Respec, No APEX days of Dust?
Should we also take away trading as that's something else people have fun with?
Anything else that would be considered fun that we should take away? Comms, Squads? I don't understand the CPMs at all. Take for example this update.....Gal assault got a ROF buff. I remember asking for ROF mods for cal assaults in the low slots and got a "Hell No" from the community. But the gal assault gets a ROF bonus along with the ability to stack damage mods without sacrificing their primary tank. Cal got some kick bonus that I can barely tell the difference with when I use the RRs. I just feel these CPMs are just out for their own agendas. I mean, why would you want to get reduce officer gear at this stage of the game. I think there is a reason why CCP doesn't care anymore and has allowed sp grind to be not be a grind at all. 750K weekly cap, triple stacked sp boosters, etc. Reason because they know the game is going to an end so no point in holding back players. In that same notion....let the officer gear roam freely as well.
Half the time you guys say we don't have any real power and then you post stuff like this essentially blaming us for the changes you disagreed with. Which is it? Do we have power to advocate these changes or do we not? If not, then why follow up with "CPM agenda"? If we do, then why would you believe for a second that anything less than all seven of us weighed in on any given topic?
Gal Assault got an RoF buff when the Assault Rifle needed a buff. Every variant of the Assault rifle was under-performing, not just one or two. Maybe that'll change with the Gal Assault buff, who knows. But you can drop that "CPM agenda" **** at the door, lol.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.19 04:59:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
You guys didn't buff ARs. You buffed the gallente suit. You gave it a very impactful bonus.
You know that for a fact, do you?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:00:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
You know the difference too because Caldari didn't get a shield buff. ALL of the suits got a shield buff (minus a few heavy exceptions). Point being Caldari and minmatar wasn't the only one that benefited...gallente and amarr benefitted from this hotfix. Gal assault used to have a shield recharge delay of 6 and a depleted delay of 10...and what is it now?
Did you skip over the part where we clearly mentioned that the shield changes were a step-by-step process and that step one was never meant to address everything or did you pocket that and save it for when you wanted to ***** about the CPM?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:58:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Even if you guys plan to buff shield tanking in 2016....why wouldn't you prioritize? The community wasn't crying for a galente buff like we were crying about shields. If you guys felt like ARs were underperforming then you should have just buffed the AR like what happened when the rpm was buffed to 800.
When the ascr was "underperforming", there was a buff to the gun. Amarr didn't get a damage bonus to the ascr. Any suit can use the gun with the new changes. This hotfix just seems like a few people getting what they wanted more than what the community needed.
Well, it happened, can't change the past - can only look at changing the future. Getting pissy about something that has already happened isn't going to do anything. There's already discussions on giving the Gal Assault a lighter bonus and moving some of it over to the AR's base stats, so, basically complaining about something that is already being looked into at this point.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.20 06:07:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:
Even if you guys plan to buff shield tanking in 2016....why wouldn't you prioritize? The community wasn't crying for a galente buff like we were crying about shields. If you guys felt like ARs were underperforming then you should have just buffed the AR like what happened when the rpm was buffed to 800.
When the ascr was "underperforming", there was a buff to the gun. Amarr didn't get a damage bonus to the ascr. Any suit can use the gun with the new changes. This hotfix just seems like a few people getting what they wanted more than what the community needed.
Well, it happened, can't change the past - can only look at changing the future. Getting pissy about something that has already happened isn't going to do anything. There's already discussions on giving the Gal Assault a lighter bonus and moving some of it over to the AR's base stats, so, basically complaining about something that is already being looked into at this point. I don't understand....if I don't get pissy about it or complain about it then how would it get right? Am I not allowed to disagree? So, should I just lay down and accept every change that the CPMs help to influence for their own gain? *Gal Assault gets ROF bonus* - "ok well nothing we can do about it, let's move on." *Amarr CPM reduces kick to scr and buffs damage* - "ok well nothing we can do about it, let's move on." "Gal CPM feels suits rep too slow..buffs suit rep and reactive rep rate* - "ok well nothing we can do about it, let's move on." When will it end?? We've been begging for shield balances for the longest time. Does it take 6 months to reduce the cpu/pg usage for shield extenders to make it more comparable with ferroscale plates? Gal assault got a ROF bonus (Probably the best bonus out of all the suits). Caldari got a kick reduction bonus that you don't even notice. RR in Caldari hands feels like RR in any other suit's hands. Even the CPMs are telling us "SoonTM" about balancing shields.
Catch more flies with honey, yo. And yeah, SoonTM because - and I know this comes as a surprise - you can't usually fix something in one go.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.20 20:03:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I have to come bearing gifts and offering if I want you guys to be practical and listen. I don't think being polite and not being a twatbadger constitutes giving a gift... it's just common courtesy.
Pretty much this.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.25 12:55:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I have to come bearing gifts and offering if I want you guys to be practical and listen. I don't think being polite and not being a twatbadger constitutes giving a gift... it's just common courtesy. Ok then....tell me where I was being a "twatbadger" https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2999605#post2999605 - was my first post in this thread. All I said was that I feel that CPMs push their own agendas. I remember going back and forth with one (from the last panel) that actually admitted it on the forums.
If the CPM DON'T push their own agendas and it's all just tinfoil hattery (which it usually is but yanno, #illuminati) then there really is no point in trying to combat it unless they are actually getting somewhere with what they are proposing. Which, as we'll see later in this post, might not even be their ideals in the first place. Just as well you can at least guarantee that at least five other CPM representatives and CCP looked over it and gave it the 'OK'. Considering how often and how long the CPM debate with one another, there is little to no "agenda" pressing going on because it usually dies the very second one of us even suspects some sort of intent.
But for sake the argument let's say there is an agena there. How do you know it's the CPM's agenda and not CCP's? After all, lot of players believe we have no real power anyway so how could we even press that agenda? According to the grand majority of the community we're just a filter for the forums (community management's job) and a council that gives feedback (your job). Alternatively, if it is the CPM's agenda, how do you know -WHICH- CPM's agenda it is? Lot of times we'll debate internally then some unlucky bastard volunteers himself to post the information. Who gets the flak then, if the only person you readily see posting that internalized 'agenda' is the one guy who perhaps wasn't even the one with the agenda?
More critically, if the CPM really do push their own agendas what can you really do about it?
You could make a thread and try to align the players in the community to agree with you... Which you probably won't, considering that the CPM representatives were voted in by these people in the first place... If you do manage to align them all you can probably guarantee the other representatives they voted in would have already called out the offending rep on it, as I stated earlier. Even more likely CCP would already be aware of it with their "crap detector" radar that is always set to "scrutiny".
Alternatively you could bring it to the attention of CCP directly through a support ticket which will likely go through internal affairs, clog up the system with speculation and circumstantial evidence... preventing them from doing their actual job. Few people have tried this when they realized they had pushed their luck to the limit and got outright blacklisted (ignored) and felt that dealing with the consequences of being a douchelord was unfair. I'm sure Archduke would be ecstatic to at least glance it over because he is, as one player put it, "a glorified CPM with moderator priviledges and pay".
Then again, if a CPM admits to an agenda... Is that sincere and honest or just dismissive and sarcastic? After you hear how much of a douchelord you are on a daily basis, you sort of just start dismissing claims and throwing out whatever cynical response you can think of at the time. If you can't beat them you might as well have some fun with it, right? Hell, I do it all the time. Usually gets me in more trouble than it's worth but at least I get a laugh out of it.
Critical thinking is something I admire in the Dust 514 community but a lot of time it doesn't dig deep enough. Sorta like with the Ewoks in Star Wars. Yeah, they're adorable furry little critters but... no-one ever really stops and puts the pieces together. Like in the scene where they string Han and the gang up on a stick and start seasoning them. This implies that they not only were going to eat them but they had -EXPERIENCE- in cooking up/seasoning a person. They never actually state, "Yeah, Ewoks are demonic little teddy bears who will turn you into a steak at the first opportunity" but dig a little deeper and the answers are pretty clear.
Murderous, furry little bastards...
Anyway, moral of the story: It is highly unlikely that any one CPM has an "agenda" and you'd have to have all seven of them pretty much unanimous on any one thing for it to be a "CPM Agenda" - which is borderline impossible. Even still, that would only serve to devalue the CPM as a whole and CCP might look at that as a sign of the council simply not working and kill it altogether. Which I don't need to remind anyone is more bad than good. Ask the questions, think critically, consider answers and counter-arguments that will be made. It'll go a long way to reducing **** posts.
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