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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.15 12:07:00 -
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The one in need of a buff?
I'm asking because the gal ass was fine even before the last hotfix, what wasn't fine was the AR and its variants.
So, why has the gal bonus been buffed instead of buffing the AR?
I think it's a good thing that assault have a bonus to make weapons perform better with them, but this change has not fixed the AR with all the other suits.
IMO it would be better to have a slight ROF increase for AR (and variants) and then nerf a little gal ass ROF bonus, in this way the combo AR + gal ass would work like it's now, but AR would be more viable for other suits too.
I would also apply gal ass bonus to all gal tech weapons and not only to AR.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.15 16:26:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:
But the Gal Ass wasnt fine, it was inferior to the minmatar for mobility fits and inferior to the amarr assaults in almost every way except for a very small advantage in rep speed and move speed.
In fact nobody was using gal ass + ARR 
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:54:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:
Sure they were, but people use crappy suits all the time. It doesnt matter, the amarr was objectively better unless you honestly think ~.3 speed and a few reps is better than 40 health or so, a ton more stamina and stamina regen, and a massive heat bonus to the best rifle in the game.
Edit to add: this does not include the Rattati's Officer suit, which is beast mode, but at proto level the Amarr assault is clearly better.
People had only 0.3 bonus speed over amarr because they tank gal suits, tanking high HP on gal suit is like armor tanking caldari suits or tanking heavily a min suit, you are going out of your role.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.16 11:19:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:the thing is the AR isnt under performing as it does its job quite well the problem is that the stats show that it is underused and the people that do use it arent that skilled with it so the available pool of data shows what looks like a weapon that needs a buff while in reality it works just fine and is just underused making it seem UP with untrained eyes
while the gal ass was used often but not with its racial weapon so some incentive had to be added for them to want to use it over other weapons
The AR was underperforming at cqc, i was using it before and other rifle were clearly better than it at cqc.
If i have to choose a short range weapon on a suit other than gal ass i would use an ass cr or ass scr.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.17 17:07:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:
My suggestion? Split the bonus; give half of it as an inherent buff to the AR family so that they're just...better...and then give the rest to the assault so that, <30m, it is supreme.
That is exactly my point.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.17 17:28:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:shaman oga wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:
My suggestion? Split the bonus; give half of it as an inherent buff to the AR family so that they're just...better...and then give the rest to the assault so that, <30m, it is supreme.
That is exactly my point. I don't think that'd hurt. Assuming, of course, that neither the AR family or GalAssaults are presently OP. Would advise against doing the same with Rail Rifles and CalAssaults (the RR family is plenty strong as is).
Try AR on a suit other than gal ass and test if it's OP in your opinion.
I would use other rifles even at short range.
On gal ass i still have to evaluate AR OPness, i can see with my eyes it's very good at DPS, but you also have to manage the fire because the rifle tend to shake more.
Even without being totatly OP, gal ass now is slightly better than other assaults if we look only the use of racial weapons.
From the useless bonus to the better ass bonus in a single patch 
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