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Posted - 2015.10.12 22:07:00 -
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Cool thanks. |
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Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.12 22:22:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. Not cool actually. Installations suck.
I'd like to see a full auto mass driver with 30+ rounds in a clip as an AV only varient. That would look awesome shooting into the sky.
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Posted - 2015.10.12 22:23:00 -
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Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it?
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2015.10.13 15:07:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it?
Yeah ypur right we should have specialised weapons that can only destroy installations |
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Posted - 2015.10.13 15:41:00 -
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they only deal full damage against HAV
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:01:00 -
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Shall we just change the term ANTI-VEHICLE to ANTI-MECHANISM?![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:03:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. Not cool actually. Installations suck. I'd like to see a full auto mass driver with 30+ rounds in a clip as an AV only varient. That would look awesome shooting into the sky.
Minmatar Heavy ANTI-"MECHANISM" weapon... yeah that would be great!
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:05:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. Not cool actually. Installations suck. I'd like to see a full auto mass driver with 30+ rounds in a clip as an AV only varient. That would look awesome shooting into the sky. they could make it shoot sticky bombs that only stick to vehicles and installations
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:05:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle.
A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart."
An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:09:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle. A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart." An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle. however i think the point here is that all other av forms are significantly stronger vs installations so why not the minmatar
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:11:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle. A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart." An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle. however i think the point here is that all other av forms are significantly stronger vs installations so why not the minmatar Mass Drivers were always used as an Area Denial tool. However the Breach Mass Driver has always been underperforming at that task due to the tight blast radius produced by it.
I do agree that it should do full damage to vehicles and installations, however I am merely pointing out that an installation is not considered a vehicle. I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing, just pointing out misinformation.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:11:00 -
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Dont like installations?
Try using a minm logi with nothing but different types of RE's
Lay like 12 - 16 re's around and on the installation, back up and kaaabooom.
Its all about strategy. Make sure to carry a PLC in case you need to finish it off.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:11:00 -
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im eager to taunt an lav and then jump over it hitting the driver witha sticky bomb and killing him out of the lav purrrsss
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:12:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle. A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart." An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle. however i think the point here is that all other av forms are significantly stronger vs installations so why not the minmatar Mass Drivers were always used as an Area Denial tool. However the Breach Mass Driver has always been underperforming at that task due to the tight blast radius produced by it. I do agree that it should do full damage to vehicles and installations, however I am merely pointing out that an installation is not considered a vehicle. I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing, just pointing out misinformation. i agree a installation is not a vehicle
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:20:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle. A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart." An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle.
I did put AV in quotes didn't I? I did this because I lacked a better word for it.
There is however a word for what you're doing, sophistry.
The point is the breach MD is worthless. It can reduce installations to 0 armor but can never destroy them. That makes a whole lot of sense right? |
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Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:24:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle. A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart." An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle. I did put AV in quotes didn't I? I did this because I lacked a better word for it. There is however a word for what you're doing, sophistry. The point is the breach MD is worthless. It can reduce installations to 0 armor but can never destroy them. That makes a whole lot of sense right? I just scanned the thread and you did not say "AV" specifically once. Also the Breach MD is bad initially but once you get the hang of it, it does wonders. It is very specialized and can do decent against infantry in VERY close quarters combat.
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Boot Booter
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:27:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Boot Booter wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Joel II X wrote:Well, an installation isn't a vehicle now is it? An installation is not a vehicle. A vehicle is defined as "a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart." An installation is unable to transport things because it can not move and it is stationary. Therefore, it is not a vehicle. I did put AV in quotes didn't I? I did this because I lacked a better word for it. There is however a word for what you're doing, sophistry. The point is the breach MD is worthless. It can reduce installations to 0 armor but can never destroy them. That makes a whole lot of sense right? I just scanned the thread and you did not say "AV" specifically once. Also the Breach MD is bad initially but once you get the hang of it, it does wonders. It is very specialized and can do decent against infantry in VERY close quarters combat.
Title of the thread bruh. I'm saying it's a bad AV choice comparatively. Infantry is another topic. |
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:28:00 -
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LOLOL... now that just shouldn't be... it can take it down to 0? Yet not destroy it...
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Posted - 2015.10.13 16:28:00 -
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Right, scanned every part of the thread but the title.
*facepalm
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Posted - 2015.10.13 17:22:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks.
AV - Anti vehicle
Agains istalations you will need something more, try my beloved forge ;) Why the heck you killing instalation anyway.
You should save them for field andvantage. That is reasson why i dont get what newbies especialy in tanks or just hacked towies shooting another not hacked ones.
Stop be a free SP 4SS and try kill something like enemy for example XD
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Posted - 2015.10.13 17:26:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. AV - Anti vehicle Agains istalations you will need something more, try my beloved forge ;) Why the heck you killing instalation anyway. You should save them for field andvantage. That is reasson why i dont get what newbies especialy in tanks or just hacked towies shooting another not hacked ones. Stop be a free SP 4SS and try kill something like enemy for example XD We've established that boyko.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 17:36:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. AV - Anti vehicle Agains istalations you will need something more, try my beloved forge ;) Why the heck you killing instalation anyway. You should save them for field andvantage. That is reasson why i dont get what newbies especialy in tanks or just hacked towies shooting another not hacked ones. Stop be a free SP 4SS and try kill something like enemy for example XD We've established that boyko.
Anywy boyko i still dont know why, count with me.
2 enemies - 100 points + supressing enemy on field 1 tower - 100 points + NOTHING XD
Healing matees - inflow of sp (especialy like guardian) + gaining advantage in taking field possition Supplying matees - same + gaining field possitioning without regroups Revieving matees - oneway points + reducing negative count of clones
What is better?? Helping matees boyko XD
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Posted - 2015.10.13 17:55:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. AV - Anti vehicle Agains istalations you will need something more, try my beloved forge ;) Why the heck you killing instalation anyway. You should save them for field andvantage. That is reasson why i dont get what newbies especialy in tanks or just hacked towies shooting another not hacked ones. Stop be a free SP 4SS and try kill something like enemy for example XD
Ffs are you people ********? Don't you think I know that. You're missing the ******* point. I know how to blow up installations but I'm saying the breach MD which is "a potent AV weapon in the hands of the minmatar commando" - Rattati, isn't capable of blowing up an installation. It reduces it to 0 armor but then does nothing.
Gawwwwwwwwwwd.
"but an installation isn't a vehicle" ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
"why you want to blow up installations" ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
"I like to say irrelevant things" ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
Im not trying to herd cats here, just communicate a simple point and show another flaw in CCP logic.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 17:59:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. AV - Anti vehicle Agains istalations you will need something more, try my beloved forge ;) Why the heck you killing instalation anyway. You should save them for field andvantage. That is reasson why i dont get what newbies especialy in tanks or just hacked towies shooting another not hacked ones. Stop be a free SP 4SS and try kill something like enemy for example XD Ffs are you people ********? Don't you think I know that. You're missing the ******* point. I know how to blow up installations but I'm saying the breach MD which is "a potent AV weapon in the hands of the minmatar commando" - Rattati, isn't capable of blowing up an installation. It reduces it to 0 armor but then does nothing. Gawwwwwwwwwwd. "but an installation isn't a vehicle" ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) "why you want to blow up installations" ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) "I like to say irrelevant things" ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Im not trying to herd cats here, just communicate a simple point and show another flaw in CCP logic.
Are you sure, the instalation did not revive its shields? Or lag was not in that?
Anyways maybe next time you should clearly stated in OP what is the real issue boyko XD
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Posted - 2015.10.13 18:02:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Cool thanks. Not cool actually. Installations suck. I'd like to see a full auto mass driver with 30+ rounds in a clip as an AV only varient. That would look awesome shooting into the sky. A burst fire flak cannon... that would look cool.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 18:02:00 -
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^ OK sorry next time I'll lay out "the breach MD can't destroy installations" more clearly for you lol.
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Posted - 2015.10.13 18:06:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:^ OK sorry next time I'll lay out "the breach MD can't destroy installations" more clearly for you lol.
Wasn't referring to you anyway boykosive.
Tha will do the job boyo, btw im ASPIE ergo i need direct info not something "notworking/thx" XD
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Posted - 2015.10.13 18:09:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:^ OK sorry next time I'll lay out "the breach MD can't destroy installations" more clearly for you lol.
Wasn't referring to you anyway boykosive. Tha will do the job boyo, btw im ASPIE ergo i need direct info not something "notworking/thx" XD
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Posted - 2015.10.13 18:11:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:^ OK sorry next time I'll lay out "the breach MD can't destroy installations" more clearly for you lol.
Wasn't referring to you anyway boykosive. Tha will do the job boyo, btw im ASPIE ergo i need direct info not something "notworking/thx" XD Sorry, just assumed the title of the thread was clear enough.
If you tell:"My MD cannot take down instalation even its 0", then maybe ;p
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Posted - 2015.10.13 18:13:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boot Booter wrote:^ OK sorry next time I'll lay out "the breach MD can't destroy installations" more clearly for you lol.
Wasn't referring to you anyway boykosive. Tha will do the job boyo, btw im ASPIE ergo i need direct info not something "notworking/thx" XD Sorry, just assumed the title of the thread was clear enough. If you tell:"My MD cannot take down instalation even its 0", then maybe ;p
Thanks, I will keep that in mind for my next thread.
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