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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.10.12 12:38:00 -
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There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters.
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.12 12:40:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters.
Racial Parity.
Also if you haven't noticed already Dust and Eve are two completely different setups.
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:17:00 -
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How are they completely different? Everything that's unique about dust is borrowed from eve.
You take out the eve elements from dust and all you're left with is a generic FPS.
And lets not forget the incubus has bonuses to rail atm.
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Green Living
Gallente Gay Swag Club
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:37:00 -
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I almost wish gear was locked to race, but that would take away one of the best things about Dust. |
Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:52:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:How are they completely different? Everything that's unique about dust is borrowed from eve.
You take out the eve elements from dust and all you're left with is a generic FPS.
And lets not forget the incubus has bonuses to rail atm.
Yes for Vehicles... not suits.
Suits have bonuses to their racial weapons except min scout...
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:56:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:How are they completely different? Everything that's unique about dust is borrowed from eve.
You take out the eve elements from dust and all you're left with is a generic FPS.
And lets not forget the incubus has bonuses to rail atm. Yes for Vehicles... not suits. Suits have bonuses to their racial weapons except min scout... Try to focus and think about the meaning of the other two lines for a second will you.
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SPARTAN 4848
State Information Retrieval Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:03:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category
FOR THE STATE
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:04:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. And which ships would they be? They might have bonuses to hybrid weapons, which are shared by both Caldari and Gallente, but I've never seen blaster specific bonuses on a Caldari ship. I'll have to take your word for the Gallente ships. Can you name one so I can look it up? |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:05:00 -
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Green Living wrote:I almost wish gear was locked to race, but that would take away one of the best things about Dust. No, it would add back the most important part of what has been taken out already. People should be able to train anything they want, but that doesn't automaticly mean every weapon would be the same on every suit. |
Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:10:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:How are they completely different? Everything that's unique about dust is borrowed from eve.
You take out the eve elements from dust and all you're left with is a generic FPS.
And lets not forget the incubus has bonuses to rail atm. Yes for Vehicles... not suits. Suits have bonuses to their racial weapons except min scout... Try to focus and think about the meaning of the other two lines for a second will you.
Seeing as I'm going on 3 days sleep deprived because #InsomniaIsABish that sounds like work so I am just going to "assume" I sounded like a complete idiot more than normal and contradicted myself.
Secondly, back to defying Racial Parity, The GalAss has 3 bonuses for its weapon... why waste all 3 bonuses for a stupid ARR which got a range nerf last hotfix? Therefore, we want all GalAsses with an ARR or RR for that matter to go die in NullSec. :)
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:12:00 -
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SPARTAN 4848 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category Yes, they do, but the specialisation skills are specific to either railgun or blaster. You have to train them separately, and the wrong type on a ship is a disaster. Blasters are extremely short range, where railguns are long range. Blasters, to work at all, need to be on a Gallente ship with massive tank, so they can get in extremely close. Railguns are hopeless at such ranges, likewise blasters don't have the range for the sort of kiting that Caldari have to do due to a shield tank.
Yes, we can and do train both railguns and blasters, but using the wrong one will result in sudden death. The OP made it sound like it's totally normal to put blasters on a Caldari ship or railguns on a Gallente ship but it just isn't. Both are hybrid, that's where the OP's confusion lies. |
Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.12 14:25:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:SPARTAN 4848 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category Yes, they do, but the specialisation skills are specific to either railgun or blaster. You have to train them separately, and the wrong type on a ship is a disaster. Blasters are extremely short range, where railguns are long range. Blasters, to work at all, need to be on a Gallente ship with massive tank, so they can get in extremely close. Railguns are hopeless at such ranges, likewise blasters don't have the range for the sort of kiting that Caldari have to do due to a shield tank. Yes, we can and do train both railguns and blasters, but using the wrong one will result in sudden death. The OP made it sound like it's totally normal to put blasters on a Caldari ship or railguns on a Gallente ship but it just isn't. Both are hybrid, that's where the OP's confusion lies.
This.
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.10.12 23:06:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:SPARTAN 4848 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category Yes, they do, but the specialisation skills are specific to either railgun or blaster. You have to train them separately, and the wrong type on a ship is a disaster. Blasters are extremely short range, where railguns are long range. Blasters, to work at all, need to be on a Gallente ship with massive tank, so they can get in extremely close. Railguns are hopeless at such ranges, likewise blasters don't have the range for the sort of kiting that Caldari have to do due to a shield tank. Yes, we can and do train both railguns and blasters, but using the wrong one will result in sudden death. The OP made it sound like it's totally normal to put blasters on a Caldari ship or railguns on a Gallente ship but it just isn't. Both are hybrid, that's where the OP's confusion lies. I'm actually not confused in the slightest.
Almost every single gallente ship in eve has bonuses to hybrid weapons. There are more gallente ships that have bonuses to hybrid weapons than caldari ships, there for, there are more gallente ships that have bonuses to rail guns than caldari ship.
It's very easy to understand.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.12 23:21:00 -
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SPARTAN 4848 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.10.12 23:28:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:SPARTAN 4848 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category Yes, they do, but the specialisation skills are specific to either railgun or blaster. You have to train them separately, and the wrong type on a ship is a disaster. Blasters are extremely short range, where railguns are long range. Blasters, to work at all, need to be on a Gallente ship with massive tank, so they can get in extremely close. Railguns are hopeless at such ranges, likewise blasters don't have the range for the sort of kiting that Caldari have to do due to a shield tank. Yes, we can and do train both railguns and blasters, but using the wrong one will result in sudden death. The OP made it sound like it's totally normal to put blasters on a Caldari ship or railguns on a Gallente ship but it just isn't. Both are hybrid, that's where the OP's confusion lies. I'm actually not confused in the slightest. Almost every single gallente ship in eve has bonuses to hybrid weapons. There are more gallente ships that have bonuses to hybrid weapons than caldari ships, there for, there are more gallente ships that have bonuses to rail guns than caldari ship. It's very easy to understand. And THAT'S where the confusion lies. While you're technically correct, it's not relevant. Just because a railgun is a hybrid weapon doesn't mean that hybrid bonuses on a ship automaticly mean railguns are good on that ship. Horses for courses. Railguns are actually quite weak compared with blasters, but have extremely long range, where blasters are short range. You can't put railguns on a ship that's tanked for close encounters and hope to do anything at all with them to your opponent. Railguns are basicly for distance battles, kiting. If you want to use hybrid weapons on a ship that's going in for quick fast close kills, you need speed (microwarp drives), a solid armour-based tank and really devastating close range weapons (blasters). |
Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.10.12 23:43:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:SPARTAN 4848 wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:There are more gallente ships on EVE that have bonuses to rail guns than there are caldari.
Why are people complaining about gal assault using the rail rifle?
Perfectly lore accurate.
The caldari also get bonuses to blasters. Caldari and Gallente both ships have bonus for HYBRID WEPONS and railgun/blaster both fall under that category Yes, they do, but the specialisation skills are specific to either railgun or blaster. You have to train them separately, and the wrong type on a ship is a disaster. Blasters are extremely short range, where railguns are long range. Blasters, to work at all, need to be on a Gallente ship with massive tank, so they can get in extremely close. Railguns are hopeless at such ranges, likewise blasters don't have the range for the sort of kiting that Caldari have to do due to a shield tank. Yes, we can and do train both railguns and blasters, but using the wrong one will result in sudden death. The OP made it sound like it's totally normal to put blasters on a Caldari ship or railguns on a Gallente ship but it just isn't. Both are hybrid, that's where the OP's confusion lies. I'm actually not confused in the slightest. Almost every single gallente ship in eve has bonuses to hybrid weapons. There are more gallente ships that have bonuses to hybrid weapons than caldari ships, there for, there are more gallente ships that have bonuses to rail guns than caldari ship. It's very easy to understand. And THAT'S where the confusion lies. While you're technically correct, it's not relevant. Just because a railgun is a hybrid weapon doesn't mean that hybrid bonuses on a ship automaticly mean railguns are good on that ship. Horses for courses. Railguns are actually quite weak compared with blasters, but have extremely long range, where blasters are short range. You can't put railguns on a ship that's tanked for close encounters and hope to do anything at all with them to your opponent. Railguns are basicly for distance battles, kiting. If you want to use hybrid weapons on a ship that's going in for quick fast close kills, you need speed (microwarp drives), a solid armour-based tank and really devastating close range weapons (blasters). I still don't see your point. A sniper rifle would't be too effective on a myofib/kincat caldari scout, but it would be effective on a gal logi with triple damage mods..
I frequently but rail on gallente ships and it's perfectly effective. Whether or not a particular ships is good with a particular type of turret is ultimately down to how you fit the ship. Of course that applies for dust too.
Stop claiming I'm "confused" as you are coming across as pretty pretentious.
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