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BARAGAMOS
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Posted - 2015.10.10 21:11:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Ps4 and xbone..PC would be nice but they have tons of games so I doubt a lot of people would come to this game until it's been ported for like a year and the bugs fixed..
Actually, PC has far fewer titles than consoles for DUST to compete against. PC also means you never need to port again. |
BARAGAMOS
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Posted - 2015.10.10 23:55:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:Ps4 and xbone..PC would be nice but they have tons of games so I doubt a lot of people would come to this game until it's been ported for like a year and the bugs fixed.. Actually, PC has far fewer titles than consoles for DUST to compete against. PC also means you never need to port again. Ditto this Are you two high? PC doesn't have games? PC has literally every game EVER, (bar a few dozen Sony/XBox/Nintendo exclusives.) The pool of games for PC consists of nearly every game released, (emulators yo) in the last roughly 30 years versus the PS4 which has had a grand total of... Drumroll please! Less than two... Plus a couple games you can stream. It's the reason why Dust needs to go to PS4. Being one of only a few games available automatically means it gets a larger share of the target audience. Going to PC would be like adding a drop of water in the Atlantic.
Kid, steam games free of the week or bejeweled is not a competitor for DUST....
Consoles have real competition coming out every month. I don't see Fall out 4 or Battle Fronts coming to PC, do you? So talking about competition from emulators is idiotic. Bottom line is THERE ARE FAR MORE TITLES THAT COMPETE WITH DUST ON CONSOLES. You may want this game for console, but it was a mistake to take it here to begin with. The fact that this discussion is even taking place highlights that. PC is a forever platform, consoles are not. Your bias comes through pretty hard in that post. Dust is far more unique in a PC environment than on a console. There are 4-6 major FPS titles a year for console...and usually 0 for PC.
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BARAGAMOS
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Posted - 2015.10.11 00:25:00 -
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Really..
That is actually great news. At the same time as the console release? |
BARAGAMOS
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Posted - 2015.10.11 00:31:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Well safest choice is PC I believe since as you can see EVE is very much successful on that platform. Just lower the pc requirements so that the people who can't afford gaming PC can still play. Also I think that Dust can better connect with EVE if they are on the same platform. Port dust to PS4 once it's stable and not a mess like it is now
Your cell phone probably has more processing power than your PS3, so PC requirements should not be an issue unless they really overhaul the graphics. I have to agree, I see no issue with porting BACK to PS4 from a PC environment, but having to do this port or die dance every 6-8 years because you are console dependent does not seem to be the right answer. As much as I hate to say it as well, but a port to PC does cut out the pleebs. Which could make room for a subscription based games like EVE where there is incentive to make a balanced game with real match making. Not the Free-to-Play disaster we have now.
PC=Port once and done |
BARAGAMOS
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Posted - 2015.10.11 01:43:00 -
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So lets put this in terms that really matter to a company:
Money
EVE online subscriptions: 450000 +/-
Dust Free to Play Concurrent logins: 2200 +/-
One of these makes money the other does not. A single platform free to play game is not going to make the almost $7mill a month EVE does from subscriptions alone. I know many of you have a personal interest in wanting it to port to PS4, but the reality is it probably won't port anywhere and least of all to another single platform console. The PS4 already hit the height of its console sales in May and its been on a downhill slide since. It undersells the Xbox one and undersells PCs by a landslide. So, what I am trying to say is no amount of Pie in the sky moaning and begging is going to make bringing this game to PS4 a better idea than porting it to PC. PC is the easiest development platform for longevity. You develop it once and done. Even if PS4 were easier to develop for having the platform die again in 5 years means another costly port. I like playing Dust on console as well, but the reality is it can't stay on a console as its native environment.
A port to PC with subscription based play opens the market to older players with greater amounts of spendable income. That's a reality.
That's the reality that many of the players don't want to hear. That the game needs to move to a subscription based PC game if it is going to have the longevity of EVE. It will not have that with 16 year old kids playing for free on a console. That's is simply the way it is. The motivator is profit and the free to play aspect of DUST is already breaking down with the low number of new players to act as content for the spenders. Moving to a new console will not fix that issue in the long run, and it will move through the same cycle you have seen on PS3. This was a great Beta test, but its time for Dust to grow up and become a real game. That means moving to a permanent and profitable new home, and PS4 can never be permanent even if it could be profitable. |
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