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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
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Posted - 2015.10.11 16:01:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Yes. It is working as intended.
They are now effective on galassaults. The same way scramblers where very effective on Amarr because of heat, the same way you have better control with rail rifles on caldari, and the same way you can spam with minmatar.
It encourages racial fits. The Breach Assault Rifle should not have received the RoF bonus.
Why not? Because you can actually kill with it now? before the buff, the AR would be outperformed by the following light and sidearm weapons:
-Rail rifle
-Assault Rail rifle
-Combat rifle
-Assault Combat
-Scrambler rifle
-Assault Scrambler rifle
-Laser rifle (at a distance)
-mass driver
sidearms:
-Bolt pistol
-smg
-ion pistol
Anyone throwing a fit about the new gal assault bonus needs to check themselves. The Assault RR is still beast, and if you use it against a gal assault wielding an AR, now the terms come down to skill, not weaponry used.
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
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Posted - 2015.10.11 16:13:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:In theory all these changes sound good on paper. In reality in game its cheesey as all ways. The way dust works when you fight to win CQC weapons pretty much dominate with the way the objective structures are designed. Its the reason the shotgun, hmg, and AR have all ways been hard to balance. Good players know how to position themselves to get in CQC range. Even on the bridge map in PC lastnight in order to get to the outside letters you must put yourself in a CQC situation. Vets will know in order to win= i should use this OP combo. Its the reason people have been crying about heavys with Hmgs and assaults with shotguns for so long. Make something to strong in CQC and trust me it will git spamed to death until we realize the game got way to cheesey again. Your balance culture is flawed. Im shocked this was allowed to happen as the new CPMs are very knowledgeable ingame players. 
Your position is contradictory to itself. If I understood correctly, your first few statements explain how CQC weapons are the weapons used to win. And I quote, "The way dust works when you fight to win CQC weapons pretty much dominate with the way the objective structures are designed."
However you go on to explain how a good player will position himself and create a combo that best works for him.
So which is it? the CQC weapon? the combo? the positioning?
If your answer is all three, then I agree with you. Hence the contradiction to your first premise that the AR buff makes the game cheesy because its the only weapon and combo you can use in the game to be a cqc king.
May I remind you that you also mentioned the shotgun, heavies with HMG's. The AR is competitive now. And smart players witll understand how to counter a Gal Assault with an AR.
The game is about tactics, counters. So now, the AR on Gal assault gives the player base a new tactic, a new puzzle to solve. Anyone too lazy to find a counter, is well...another kill on my killfeed. :)
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.10.11 16:24:00 -
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All of these tears about the AR means CCP is doing something right. lmao!!!
and now a poem to all the tear filled faces:
tear here....tear there...oh the AR has killed me there...
tear here...tear there...I now have to think how to counter them...
tear tear tear...the AR shoots way too fast
tear tear tear...I'm gonna blame CCP cause I can't pad my stats
tear here...tear there...oh mama come help me I'm dead!!!
BAHAHAHAHAHA quit crying. Everyone sounds like a little tool used for gardening that is also a synonym to a prostitute and rhymes with Santa's laugh... XD
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.10.11 18:34:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Mr.Pepe Le Pew wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:In theory all these changes sound good on paper. In reality in game its cheesey as all ways. The way dust works when you fight to win CQC weapons pretty much dominate with the way the objective structures are designed. Its the reason the shotgun, hmg, and AR have all ways been hard to balance. Good players know how to position themselves to get in CQC range. Even on the bridge map in PC lastnight in order to get to the outside letters you must put yourself in a CQC situation. Vets will know in order to win= i should use this OP combo. Its the reason people have been crying about heavys with Hmgs and assaults with shotguns for so long. Make something to strong in CQC and trust me it will git spamed to death until we realize the game got way to cheesey again. Your balance culture is flawed. Im shocked this was allowed to happen as the new CPMs are very knowledgeable ingame players. Your position is contradictory to itself. If I understood correctly, your first few statements explain how CQC weapons are the weapons used to win. And I quote, "The way dust works when you fight to win CQC weapons pretty much dominate with the way the objective structures are designed." However you go on to explain how a good player will position himself and create a combo that best works for him. So which is it? the CQC weapon? the combo? the positioning? If your answer is all three, then I agree with you. Hence the contradiction to your first premise that the AR buff makes the game cheesy because its the only weapon and combo you can use in the game to be a cqc king. May I remind you that you also mentioned the shotgun, heavies with HMG's. The AR is competitive now. And smart players witll understand how to counter a Gal Assault with an AR. The game is about tactics, counters. So now, the AR on Gal assault gives the player base a new tactic, a new puzzle to solve. Anyone too lazy to find a counter, is well...another kill on my killfeed. :) what you will find is the counter is to get a respec and use the same weapon and suit that is OP. That makes 90% of a PC team all use the same gun and suit hence the cheese mode. Trust me we tryed it lastnight whole team gal assaults with AR it was down right rude. Yes good players will use positioning and tactics to get in range to maximize the OP CQC weapon canceling its only drawback. And the map structures dictate in order to take and hold a letter you will most likely be in a CQC situation. What did you not understand?
I never said I didn't understand. I said your statement is a contradiction. If you get a PC team and run nothing but super fast Min Assaults with shotties, then you'll get the same result. OP. If you get a bunch of sneaky cloak scouts, same thing. Your example of running a PC team full of Gal Assaults is a poor example to show how OP the Gal assault bonus with AR is.
Even if the maps dictate the use of CQC weapons, you have remember that the AR is not the ONLY viable CQC weapon. Long distance weapons like the RR and ScR with a freaking charge shot are great options for CQC. Hence the problem with your view that AR is OP because it's usable and viable weapon now.
A counter to the Gal assault is get a distance weapon. Get a laser, RR, ARR, ScR, and shoot at a distance. Get a damped shottie and shoot them in the back. Your idea of a respect to counter is the lazy way out.
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
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Posted - 2015.10.11 22:49:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Your idea of getting a lazor rifle and sitting far away from a objective farming kills but never attacking and takeing said objective explains why your corp never wins a PC.  but seriously how do you not understand that a gal assault is kind of the perfect option to have success in battle. Im just trolling and throwing my perspective out there i Don't care or want them to nerf it. But giveing a direct DPS buff to one suit seems the lazyist haphazard attempt at balance i have seen to date on dust.
Last time I checked, we sold our districts months ago. PC is one of the most flawed game modes in Dust. Mainly because of LAG. Also, I don't remember losing very often. Ask FA when we cloned them out or EB when they lost 3 out of 4 in a row, or Death Card, Pendejitos or all the others that tried to take our district but failed. We lost a few, but we won most.
Your attempt at jabbing at us and straying away from the conversation just shows that you can't debate well. Also, in my post I mentioned multiple counterattacks including shotties and ScR ARR which are still really really good at CQC.
To cry and moan about the Gal Assault bonus and to say you don't want it nerfed cause you are just trolling is well....trolling. So I salute your solid trolling game. lmao o7
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