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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.09 21:40:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:I appreciate the video here, but I have a gripe with it: According to rattati's statements on recoil / dispersion no dropsuit ever comes anywhere NEAR close to their maximum recoil / dispersion values with a weapon while standing still and aimed down sights. I get what you're going for with the comparisons, but in my opinion a more accurate comparison would involve strafing left and right while shooting, it would better highlight the benefits that the dropsuit skill gives. Feel free to make some :) I edited my post, and I would happily make some if I had the hardware to do so. It's somewhat upsetting that you respond to people pointing out a flaw with your method or otherwise critiquing you so poorly aeon.
You presumed his intentions instead of asking.
He responded poorly to your incorrect assessment of his response.
Both of you could have prevented the unpleasantness, but in reality...You 'started' it by misunderstanding him and then choosing after that to criticize him because of it.
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.09 21:46:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:FactFor months following the Rail Rifle's introduction, it dominated both down range and from the hip in close quarters. Some time later, Rattati increased the hipfire kick of this long-range weapon to make it less effective in close quarters. To this day, the weapon remains more popular than any other Light Weapon ( source, source screenshot). QuestionShould the long-range Rail Rifle excel in close quarters? Aeon Amadi wrote:Hit up Kirk. Or Breakin. Kirk and Breakin are not presently asserting questionable claims or openly proposing moar (potentially harmful) Assault buffs.
I don't see any sources backing up the supposed fact that the RR dominated close quarters.
On the contrary the combat rifle dominated in close quarters and was more widely used by the PC community because of it's close quarters prowess.
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.09 21:54:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:
I don't see any sources backing up the supposed fact that the RR dominated close quarters.
Oh, OK. They must've nerfed its hipfire for no reason. Oopsies. Carry on.
There seems to be a problem here.
Ah!
The idea that the RR did not dominate cqc like the Combat Rifle
The idea the RR was too good in cqc
These ideas are not mutually exclusive. 
I don't contest that a nerf was appropriate because it's lack of hipfire allowed it to have very little drawback while offering the longer range.
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
5
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Posted - 2015.10.09 21:55:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
I upset so I want to change the subject.
There there. 
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.09 23:10:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:
Yeah, it's not disingenuous at all to respond to constructive feedback with: "Hey if you have a problem with my method, go drop a bunch of money on hardware and learn a skillset you may not currently possess, otherwise just shut up and don't give any feedback regardless of my stated desire for it I really only just post these videos so people can kiss my butt about them" (sorry, I'm ascribing motive here and that's wrong, I guess we'll just have to guess what aeon wants because of the mixed messages he sends), maybe we're just supposed to fellate lord aeon amadi any time he condescends from his cloud of being-way-too-busy-to-respond-to-constructive-feedback-in-a-reasonable-manner to 'consult' with (aka ignore) us plebians.
Yep, I totally started it by expecting to have my points considered on their merit alone, I forgot that I'd be talking to the ever unreasonable aeon amadi.
Thank you for leaping in to white knight for the damsel in distress that is Aeon, long after the initial argument was ended in a semi-reasonable manner Zatara, it becomes increasingly clear that Aeon needs others to do his arguing for him.
My response wasn't anything more than a passerby reading a rando thread and seeing some dude choose to interpret a reply incorrectly and respond to it in a less than ideal manner.
I suggested both of you played a part in the unnecessary exchange and conveyed that both sides could have avoided the misunderstanding.
I wasn't aware he knew you didn't possess the required hardware...or that inherently to make a comparison you would have to make your own video at all.
But here we are again. In a word, eisegesis.
Quote: I guess we'll just have to guess what aeon wants because of the mixed messages he sends
Or if we're confused about something we could ask for clarification...we don't even have to go with the best option of choosing to give people the benefit of the doubt. 
You seem to have quite a bone to pick with Aeon.
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.10 00:38:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:or that inherently to make a comparison you would have to make your own video at all. Right, zatara, how exactly would I make a comparison detailing the effect of strafing and the bonuses the assault suits provide without resorting to a video? A bunch of math and formulas that I don't have access to without reverse engineering game code (or lol asking ccp to hand it over)? Which would be absolutely incomprehensible to the layman? Don't avoid this question, I'd really like your answer as to how I'm supposed to do a comparison here? Do I just ask people to imagine "There's 25% less hipfire dispersion and a 15% rate of fire bonus on the gal, and there's 25% less kick and 25% faster reload on the cal" - I'm sure that'd be wonderfully informative. Really, are you thinking through what you're saying as you're saying it? Or is this just a fatal-absolution hugbox thread now?
I won't insult you for misunderstanding what I wrote.
What I was intimating was that you could ask Kirk or anyone else with recording equipment to team up with you to make a video.
The rest of your comments appear to be a tad unkind. 
I don't think that's necessary if that is the case.
Edit: As for the FA hugbox.
I responded to an earlier comment you made about white knighting, this seems to be a similar line of thought.
Is there some reason you feel the need to write comments that, inadvertently or not, ascribe a subtext of motivation to my posts?
I don't know how much clearer I can be than this:
I don't need someone to have fulfilled any sort of checklist or requirements to warrant a response.
You could have been in FA and Aeon could have been joe shmoe...I still would have taken the time to post what immediately came to mind upon reading the beginning of that exchange when you misinterpreted Aeon's words and decided you were going to be upset about it and ascribe fault to him.
I'm irrelevant, feel free to ignore me. :)
No matter what. FAmily
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