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Aeon Amadi wrote:

Malleus Malificorum wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Malleus Malificorum wrote:

I appreciate the video here, but I have a gripe with it: According to rattati's statements on recoil / dispersion no dropsuit ever comes anywhere NEAR close to their maximum recoil / dispersion values with a weapon while standing still and aimed down sights. I get what you're going for with the comparisons, but in my opinion a more accurate comparison would involve strafing left and right while shooting, it would better highlight the benefits that the dropsuit skill gives.

Feel free to make some :)

I edited my post, and I would happily make some if I had the hardware to do so. It's somewhat upsetting that you respond to people pointing out a flaw with your method or otherwise critiquing you so poorly aeon.

Are you serious, dude? That response was nothing but sincerity and politeness.

Listen, I work 40 hours a week, I have 15 credit hours in college, I have a dozen other things to do as a CPM rep, and I've got a freelance graphic design thing on the side. I had the time to make those videos today because I don't have homework due to the fact that it's mid-terms week and we had nothing but tests to do.

My bad for not being a super human and having more time to do what others are more than capable of doing themselves. Everyone's a critic until it's their turn to do something Lol


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Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 210	Posted - 2015.10.08 22:53:00 - [1] - Quote I appreciate the video here, but I have a gripe with it: According to rattati's statements on recoil / dispersion no dropsuit ever comes anywhere NEAR close to their maximum recoil / dispersion values with a weapon while standing still and aimed down sights. I get what you're going for with the comparisons, but in my opinion a more accurate comparison would involve strafing left and right while shooting, it would better highlight the benefits that the dropsuit skill gives. In short, the videos while commendable and useful (seriously, I'm not trying to be an ass or pedantic here this is good work that you went out of your way to do) are unfortunately slightly misrepresentative due to a flaw in the methodology. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 210	Posted - 2015.10.08 22:56:00 - [2] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: I appreciate the video here, but I have a gripe with it: According to rattati's statements on recoil / dispersion no dropsuit ever comes anywhere NEAR close to their maximum recoil / dispersion values with a weapon while standing still and aimed down sights. I get what you're going for with the comparisons, but in my opinion a more accurate comparison would involve strafing left and right while shooting, it would better highlight the benefits that the dropsuit skill gives. Feel free to make some :) I edited my post, and I would happily make some if I had the hardware to do so. It's somewhat upsetting that you respond to people pointing out a flaw with your method or otherwise critiquing you so poorly aeon. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 210	Posted - 2015.10.08 23:20:00 - [3] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: I appreciate the video here, but I have a gripe with it: According to rattati's statements on recoil / dispersion no dropsuit ever comes anywhere NEAR close to their maximum recoil / dispersion values with a weapon while standing still and aimed down sights. I get what you're going for with the comparisons, but in my opinion a more accurate comparison would involve strafing left and right while shooting, it would better highlight the benefits that the dropsuit skill gives. Feel free to make some :) I edited my post, and I would happily make some if I had the hardware to do so. It's somewhat upsetting that you respond to people pointing out a flaw with your method or otherwise critiquing you so poorly aeon. Are you serious, dude? That response was nothing but sincerity and politeness. Listen, I work 40 hours a week, I have 15 credit hours in college, I have a dozen other things to do as a CPM rep, and I've got a freelance graphic design thing on the side. I had the time to make those videos today because I don't have homework due to the fact that it's mid-terms week and we had nothing but tests to do. My bad for not being a super human and having more time to do what others are more than capable of doing themselves. Everyone's a critic until it's their turn to do something So we're doing this again eh? You state "hey feedback is awesome" so someone gives you targeted and constructive feedback, you respond by being sarcastic / disingenuous, they tell you that it was uncalled for, you cry about things. Why exactly are you on the CPM again? I mean almost every interaction you have with the community goes terribly which isn't something I think most look for in a community representative. Is a "Hey, good point" too hard for you to manage, or do you perceive everything as a personal attack? I'd HAPPILY make the videos: if I had the hardware to, unfortunately I don't and I'm not interested in purchasing it. I'm not sitting here shouting at you to re-do it (so sorry that you think I am), I'm pointing out that your video has a critical flaw to it. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 210	Posted - 2015.10.08 23:33:00 - [4] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Or you could just take what I said for what it was and not try to bait an argument. Yeah, was a good point, sure, but there was nothing hostile, sarcastic, or aggressive in my reply. You assumed that, you made that choice, now we're "doing this again". It was never perceived as a personal attack until you orchestrated it to be - I was being 100% completely sincere and polite in my response. Take it or leave it. EDIT: Thank you. Was actually having a somewhat half decent day up until now. Congratulations, you got exactly what you wanted. Peace out. Yep, good work Aeon, the videos were awesome but there's room for improvement. For the record I'm not interested in arguing with you over every little thing, however your responses to people often come off as sarcastic, provocative and insincere. I'm not expecting a random 'geeky' person (or whatever you want to label yourself as) to have politician levels of tact and social skills, however I believe there's lots of room for you to improve upon there, especially if you don't like having an argument every time you post something which isn't necessarily always your fault, but hey it takes two to argue. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 210	Posted - 2015.10.09 22:44:00 - [5] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: I appreciate the video here, but I have a gripe with it: According to rattati's statements on recoil / dispersion no dropsuit ever comes anywhere NEAR close to their maximum recoil / dispersion values with a weapon while standing still and aimed down sights. I get what you're going for with the comparisons, but in my opinion a more accurate comparison would involve strafing left and right while shooting, it would better highlight the benefits that the dropsuit skill gives. Feel free to make some :) I edited my post, and I would happily make some if I had the hardware to do so. It's somewhat upsetting that you respond to people pointing out a flaw with your method or otherwise critiquing you so poorly aeon. You presumed his intentions instead of asking. He responded poorly to your incorrect assessment of his response. Both of you could have prevented the unpleasantness, but in reality...You 'started' it by misunderstanding him and then choosing after that to criticize him because of it. Yeah, it's not disingenuous at all to respond to constructive feedback with: "Hey if you have a problem with my method, go drop a bunch of money on hardware and learn a skillset you may not currently possess, otherwise just shut up and don't give any feedback regardless of my stated desire for it ~~I really only just post these videos so people can kiss my butt about them~~" (sorry, I'm ascribing motive here and that's wrong, I guess we'll just have to guess what aeon wants because of the mixed messages he sends), maybe we're just supposed to fellate lord aeon amadi any time he condescends from his cloud of being-way-too-busy-to-respond-to-constructive-feedback-in-a-reasonable-manner to 'consult' with (aka ignore) us plebians. Yep, I totally started it by expecting to have my points considered on their merit alone, I forgot that I'd be talking to the ever unreasonable aeon amadi. Thank you for leaping in to white knight for the damsel in distress that is Aeon, long after the initial argument was ended in a semi-reasonable manner Zatara, it becomes increasingly clear that Aeon needs others to do his arguing for him. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 210	Posted - 2015.10.10 00:21:00 - [6] - Quote Quote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Incidentally it's always those people that do about nothing other than criticize the work of others and then backtrack saying it's "feedback" despite feedback having never been asked for. Aeon Amadi wrote: Feel free to comment with your thoughts. Maybe you just didn't want to hear what was said because it wasn't sycophantic butt-kissing. Maybe you should start your threads by asking devs to lock them, or by being honest and telling people you don't want them to comment at all. It'd be a lot more honest to say "These threads are a safe-zone for aeon and people aren't allowed to say anything that might hurt his feelings here" (and aeon has very thin skin, so everything hurts his feelings). Zatara Rought wrote: or that inherently to make a comparison you would have to make your own video at all. Right, zatara, how exactly would I make a comparison detailing the effect of strafing and the bonuses the assault suits provide without resorting to a video? A bunch of math and formulas that I don't have access to without reverse engineering game code (or lol asking ccp to hand it over)? Which would be absolutely incomprehensible to the layman? Don't avoid this question, I'd really like your answer as to how I'm supposed to do a comparison here? Do I just ask people to imagine "There's 25% less hipfire dispersion and a 15% rate of fire bonus on the gal, and there's 25% less kick and 25% faster reload on the cal" - I'm sure that'd be wonderfully informative. Really, are you thinking through what you're saying as you're saying it? Or is this just a fatal-absolution hugbox thread now? Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.