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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:32:00 -
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M8 packed grenades - 900 Damage
Wtf CCP, do you seriously encourage grenade spam that much? I know people with no skill what so ever need a way to kill, but this is just stupid.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:07:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:M8 packed grenades - 900 Damage
Wtf CCP, do you seriously encourage grenade spam that much? I know people with no skill what so ever need a way to kill, but this is just stupid.
Yeah but you have to consider that blast radius. It takes skill to throw your grenade on point unlike core locus.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:13:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:M8 packed grenades - 900 Damage
Wtf CCP, do you seriously encourage grenade spam that much? I know people with no skill what so ever need a way to kill, but this is just stupid. Yeah but you have to consider that blast radius. It takes skill to throw your grenade on point unlike core locus.
No, it required 0 skill. Stand on a nano hive and you WILL get lucky. Do not think that people don't sit there and do nothing but throw grenades the whole game, because they do. Now they get to be twice as effective for half the cost :/
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:15:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:M8 packed grenades - 900 Damage
Wtf CCP, do you seriously encourage grenade spam that much? I know people with no skill what so ever need a way to kill, but this is just stupid. Yeah but you have to consider that blast radius. It takes skill to throw your grenade on point unlike core locus. No, it required 0 skill. Stand on a nano hive and you WILL get lucky. Do not think that people don't sit there and do nothing but throw grenades the whole game, because they do. Now they get to be twice as effective for half the cost :/
So you'd rather them be useless than have a purpose? Before this hotfix they were completely and utterly useless. Now they get a chance to shine.
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Starlight Burner
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:20:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:
So you'd rather them be useless than have a purpose? Before this hotfix they were completely and utterly useless. Now they get a chance to shine.
I don't think grenades should do that much damage at all. If there is going to be one like that, than a new grenade varient should be made, that does that damage but a 3m radius. High Impact low radius.
Can't have the best of both worlds and call it fair.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:23:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:
So you'd rather them be useless than have a purpose? Before this hotfix they were completely and utterly useless. Now they get a chance to shine.
I don't think grenades should do that much damage at all. If there is going to be one like that, than a new grenade varient should be made, that does that damage but a 3m radius. High Impact low radius. Can't have the best of both worlds and call it fair.
That's the packed locus grenade. High Impact low radius. The only suits that will die in one shot to regular nades are scouts and (this is speaking from a scout's perspective) scouts are moving so fast they easily dodge all nades. They also have the knowledge that they trade hp for movement speed, stealth, and the ability to inflict high alpha damage in a matter of a second.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.08 20:35:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:M8 packed grenades - 900 Damage
Wtf CCP, do you seriously encourage grenade spam that much? I know people with no skill what so ever need a way to kill, but this is just stupid. Yeah but you have to consider that blast radius. It takes skill to throw your grenade on point unlike core locus. No, it required 0 skill. Stand on a nano hive and you WILL get lucky. Do not think that people don't sit there and do nothing but throw grenades the whole game, because they do. Now they get to be twice as effective for half the cost :/ So you'd rather them be useless than have a purpose? Before this hotfix they were completely and utterly useless. Now they get a chance to shine.
I'd rather they not be the single most useful item in the game to get cheap kills.
I never even thought the core should do that much damage, it should be something to finish off people with low health or an area denial weapon, not insta-kill 80% of anything they are thrown at.
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Starlight Burner
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.08 22:03:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote: it should be something to finish off people with low health or an area denial weapon, not insta-kill 80% of anything they are thrown at.
This is how it should work, since we're not going for ' Realism ' here.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.08 23:11:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote: it should be something to finish off people with low health or an area denial weapon, not insta-kill 80% of anything they are thrown at. This is how it should work, since we're not going for ' Realism ' here.
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
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Posted - 2015.10.09 11:30:00 -
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M8 packed should have 1 nade like the Thukker in my honest opinion
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.10.09 13:10:00 -
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Sleek are useless now, same radius as core but 300 damage.
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2015.10.09 13:16:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Sleek are useless now, same radius as core but 300 damage.
Now that's a grenade that's long been in need of love 
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Jakkal Shoobah
Eastern Star Recon Group
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Posted - 2015.10.09 14:55:00 -
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Sleek grenades need two things. 3 carry capacity and a variant at all tiers.
If it had proto with the same stats oh hell yeah. Airburst those damn rooftop campers. Cloak scout somewhere near ? Drop a few sleeks on either side of you and run like hell.
Boundless Sleek Locus Grenade
300 damage
14.6 splash RADIUS
3 carried
Same CPU pg as cores.
The m8 packed may be extremely powerful, but its small splash offsets the damage. I can agree with ROMULUS that it needs 1 carried. It provides so much utility that it should have 1 carried like the thukker. A one hit wonder is what it should be.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.10.09 21:19:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:M8 packed grenades - 900 Damage
Wtf CCP, do you seriously encourage grenade spam that much? I know people with no skill what so ever need a way to kill, but this is just stupid. Yeah but you have to consider that blast radius. It takes skill to throw your grenade on point unlike core locus. No, it required 0 skill. Stand on a nano hive and you WILL get lucky. Do not think that people don't sit there and do nothing but throw grenades the whole game, because they do. Now they get to be twice as effective for half the cost :/
This poster needs to test any nade with lesser blast radius.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.10.09 21:25:00 -
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Once more, everyone in this thread needs to realise that
explosives with low blast radius seem powerful only on paper.
The blast radius is the key in damaging any target.
The nade deals full damage only in the very point of explosion.
After the blast radius it deals zero damage.
Everything indicates that at halfway of blast radius the damage is half.
Therefore, increasing blast radius increases effective damage considerably,
and the damaging three-dimensional are increases ^3.
(feel free to give more accurate math)
It is all about damage projection.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.10.10 02:15:00 -
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What about sleeks? :( it's like it gets no love
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.10.10 12:06:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:What about sleeks? :( it's like it gets no love
I honestly think I'm the only one who ran them regularly
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.10.10 12:19:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:What about sleeks? :( it's like it gets no love I honestly think I'm the only one who ran them regularly
I run them regularly too!
Lol if it's a fit for recon, it's a flux.
If it's a fit for AV. It's a sleek AV nade or packed AV nade.
If it's a "frontline" it's a sleek locus.
Them people jump out of cover when they see a grenade appear... Sure it does like 100 damage out there but in the middle of a gunfight, it can save you :3
Why do you run sleeks? Im intrigued.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.10.10 19:07:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Devadander wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:What about sleeks? :( it's like it gets no love I honestly think I'm the only one who ran them regularly I run them regularly too! Lol if it's a fit for recon, it's a flux. If it's a fit for AV. It's a sleek AV nade or packed AV nade. If it's a "frontline" it's a sleek locus. Them people jump out of cover when they see a grenade appear... Sure it does like 100 damage out there but in the middle of a gunfight, it can save you :3 Why do you run sleeks? Im intrigued.
I run flux on my logifits and sentinels.
Kill equip I can't reach, and strip shields for hmg.
Packed AV for my medium avfits. M8 packed on all my assaults since forever.
Sleek are my scoutfits goto ordinance. Drop two on unsuspecting fools, move and refill, get above, drop two more.
If I'm being chased by a scout, I'll toss one at a doorframe as I run through it. That has worked more than twice lol.
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