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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 07:49:00 -
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          Cloaking devices need to have a second effect.  When a cloaking device is fit on a suit, it will passively give that suit active scanner immunity from all active Scanners except the core focused active scanner. 
  Passive ewar has dampeners and precision enhancers  Now active ewar will be active Scanners and cloaking devices
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          Ahkhomi Cypher 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 09:19:00 -
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          Damps should shorten the duration of the scan if you are picked up.
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 09:22:00 -
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          I believe having a piece of equipment to counter a piece of equipment is a great way to go. 
  Passive scans battle with passive profile, active scans battle with cloaking devices
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 09:26:00 -
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          Active Scanners are aoe equipment, that is why point focused cloaking devices best them. 
  However, an active scanner operator may opt to run the core focused active scanner to get under the cloak, and the cloak operator may opt to run damps to get under the focused. 
  Play, counter play, counter - counter play, counter - counter - counter play. 
  This leads to more dynamic and fluid equipment the field, alleviating its current binary nature
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          Tesfa Alem 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 09:26:00 -
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          Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Cloaking devices need to have a second effect.  When a cloaking device is fit on a suit, it will passively give that suit active scanner immunity from all active Scanners except the core focused active scanner. 
  Passive ewar has dampeners and precision enhancers  Now active ewar will be active Scanners and cloaking devices   
  This is already true.
  Only a Gal logi + focused active scans can pick up all of the scouts except the gallente scout + proto cloak.
  Every single scout + 2 damps can beat proto focused scans on every other suit besides a proto gal logi.
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 09:28:00 -
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          This change gives the ability for any one to have a piece of equipment to counter that piece of equipment. One for one
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          Echo 1991 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 10:09:00 -
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          Or just remove team scans.
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 10:19:00 -
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          Or just have a single piece of equipment to act as a hard counter, I prefer adding content, not removing it, and your proposal doesn't work in pc, mine does
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          Echo 1991 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 10:31:00 -
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          Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Or just have a single piece of equipment to act as a hard counter, I prefer adding content, not removing it, and your proposal doesn't work in pc, mine does    Yeah, cos it would matter in PC  . It's only broken in pub matches.
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 10:57:00 -
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          Echo 1991 wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Or just have a single piece of equipment to act as a hard counter, I prefer adding content, not removing it, and your proposal doesn't work in pc, mine does   Yeah, cos it would matter in PC   . It's only broken in pub matches.   Thank you for pointing out the fact that it will greatly balance pub matches. 
 
  
  And yes, it would be usable in pc.  I'm sorry if you don't see how a squad immune to active scans can have an impact.  
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          Echo 1991 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 11:08:00 -
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          How is giving people the ability to counter something going to help in a pub match? It would make more sense if everyone didn't see what one person has scanned.
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 11:36:00 -
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          Echo 1991 wrote:How is giving people the ability to counter something going to help in a pub match? It would make more sense if everyone didn't see what one person has scanned.    It means that people can counter active scanners, they can make a fit, like say, four Scotsman cko with std cloaks flanking while people without cloaks draw the enemies attention. This allows the cloaks to take positional advantage
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          Leovarian L Lavitz 
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        Posted - 2015.10.08 11:41:00 -
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          The other team can counter the cloaks (which is countering their active scans) by running passive scans. 
  The cloaks can counter passive scans by running profile dampeners 
  The the gal logi then can attempt to counter the counter play by deploying focused scans
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