I am a minotaur.

Obviously CCP could never reevaluate meta numbers, nor alter the maths by which the meta total is figured.

Yet another good point basic gear limitations on rounds should also limit payouts or it will just be farm isk mode.

A proto suit cost 19.23 times more than basic the payout should reflect that so a normal payout of 250k would be reduced to about 13k. Example I run advanced suits all round averaged 50k in cost, lose 5 make 1000 wp get paid 250k break even. I run milita gear/starter/basic average cost of 2500 isk lose 5 make 1000 wp get paid 13k I profit. Fair right?


Also apex suits would have to be blocked due to the extra cpu/pg and bandwidth.

Meta locks are only popular among those who think they would be able to run militia, actually put up a fight, and still make a profit.

Anyone with a brain understands it can not and will not work that way.

No, because those brainboxes are so right all the time???

You people are talikng like Meta locks would make battles worse........ lol

Looks like today is going to be a numbers day for me. Keep in mind that what I outlined almost never happens, that is a vet going into a pub in STD gear.

Keeping the new player in STD gear (because let's face it, isk and SP limits are real for them) and;

Putting the vet into the same fit with everything at ADV level gives them:
372.5 Shield HP
347.5 Armor HP
and they do:
27.3 HP/round to Shield
43.1 HP/round to Armor

For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (372.5/24) + (347.5/32.8) =~ 26.1 rounds
For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/27.3) + (271/43.1) =~ 16.8 rounds

A new player going toe to toe with a vet in ADV gear needs to land about 55% more shots to come out on top.

Now things get nasty
Putting the vet into the same fit with everything at PRO level gives them:
407.7 Shield HP
402.5 Armor HP
and they do:
30.45 HP/round to Shield
46.8 HP/round to Armor

For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (407.7/24) + (402.5/32.8) =~ 29.25 rounds
For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/30.45) + (271/46.8) =~ 15.2 rounds

A new player going toe to toe with a vet in PRO gear needs to land about 93% more shots to come out on top.


I admit this is a rare(ish) case, but if the vet puts on their try hard pants and pulls out an officer weapon:

For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (407.7/24) + (402.5/32.8) =~ 29.25 rounds
For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/33.6) + (271/51.5) =~ 13.8 rounds

A new player going toe to toe with a vet in PRO gear with an OFC weapon needs to land about 112% more shots to come out on top.

Yet another good point basic gear limitations on rounds should also limit payouts or it will just be farm isk mode.

A proto suit cost 19.23 times more than basic the payout should reflect that so a normal payout of 250k would be reduced to about 13k. Example I run advanced suits all round averaged 50k in cost, lose 5 make 1000 wp get paid 250k break even. I run milita gear/starter/basic average cost of 2500 isk lose 5 make 1000 wp get paid 13k I profit. Fair right?


Also apex suits would have to be blocked due to the extra cpu/pg and bandwidth.

Just made a rattati with a kalante, plasma cannon, 2 krin's mods, basic precision, flux nade, basic hive, re, and 5 complex ferro, it's better than anything I ever run... Meta of 28. Ehp was over 1000, fast, good reps decent scan and profile. Would trade it any day for my 68 meta assault. My typical advanced suit runs around 40 meta.

I think meta locks will be manipulated like this and will result in inexperienced people having a even worse time.

I think they should limit the gear that can be run in Public Matches to Standard, Advanced, and APEX.

Add militia to that list and we are good to go

Just made a rattati with a kalante, plasma cannon, 2 krin's mods, basic precision, flux nade, basic hive, re, and 5 complex ferro, it's better than anything I ever run... Meta of 28. Ehp was over 1000, fast, good reps decent scan and profile. Would trade it any day for my 68 meta assault. My typical advanced suit runs around 40 meta.

I think meta locks will be manipulated like this and will result in inexperienced people having a even worse time.

I honestly think Militia Gear is worthless and should be removed from the game to save memory. Remove Militia Gear and use that extra space to introduce more racial variants to weapons and vehicles.

All Militia BPOs that people have can just be converted to Standard BPO gear.