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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.04 05:14:00 -
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Let's pretend dropsuits in pubs are limited to a total of 28 meta. What's the most broken thing you can come up with? |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.04 23:16:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Let's pretend dropsuits in pubs are limited to a total of 28 meta. What's the most broken thing you can come up with? All of my APEX suits, unmodified, have a Meta Level higher than 28. My APEX 'Spartan' Assault has a Meta Level of 43. Not being able to use my APEX suits would be ********. A 28 Meta Level is ridiculously low. I would rather pubs be limited to APEX, Advanced, and Standard gear (Militia gear is trash and should be removed to save memory). Proto and Officer gear can be used in Factional Warfare and PC.
As low as you think 28 is, have you seen what people have managed to do with it? |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.04 23:41:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Do some of you forget not everyone has proto gear? I've been playing for 2 months and have 5mil lifetime SP. Starting out, there was nothing ingame that helped me understand what to skill in. Just that certain things were locked until I got that skill up.
Naturally I went for different weapons because I tried the militia versions and thought it'd be nice to have a range of weapons to choose from. Then I discovered the benefits of certain suits and weapons combined. But I had already spent my starting SP and a few weeks worth of grinding on pretty useless skills.
I still don't have a protosuit. I barely have any complex mods. Skilling up the necessary dropsuit modules to fit more advanced equipment and weapons has set me back. I'm only level 3 in GalAssault and it's going to take almost 2mil more SP to unlock proto assault.
Playing against you officer gear/proto geared players sucks. I've got decent gun game and understanding of how to get WP while helping the team, but 9/10 times I will lose toe to toe against proto. And to compound the issue, the protostomps result in the noobs gaining next to nothing for SP and probably going isk negative. Then you guys tell them to git gud or just "run better kit"? Seriously asinine.
It doesn't even feel fair when I'm not missing shots and I get the drop on someone only for them to hop, spin and then near instant kill me. My most stacked assault suit has around 550ahp and 150shp and most proto/officer weapons with stacked damage mods and all the other bonuses from having more tertiary skills leveled makes the TTK damn near instant.
I am not afraid of dying, but I can't even use proto yet. So do I count as someone "playing their way" and forcing you to use officer/proto gear to carry?
I think the issue is proto/officer gear has such a large disparity in performance from std. or adv. gear, new players get steamrolled because we literally CANNOT equip the same level of gear as you guys. Yet you insist on using this gear against noobs and then complain about people not playing how you want them to?
There is no magic formula to go 20/0 you're right. It's a basic formula called stack gear that gives you an evident performance advantage over any player that does not have the same level gear... Proto should fight proto only.
Why do most level based games separate low level and high level players in PvP? Because they are so powerful stat wise (whether from gear or level) it's not fair to have them fight against the lower characters. Why do you feel this same situation doesn't warrant power segregation?
The system - as it stands - could have worked if Dust had a much, MUCH larger player base. But it doesn't, so here we are. |
Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:04:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:Let's pretend dropsuits in pubs are limited to a total of 28 meta. What's the most broken thing you can come up with? All of my APEX suits, unmodified, have a Meta Level higher than 28. My APEX 'Spartan' Assault has a Meta Level of 43. Not being able to use my APEX suits would be ********. A 28 Meta Level is ridiculously low. I would rather pubs be limited to APEX, Advanced, and Standard gear (Militia gear is trash and should be removed to save memory). Proto and Officer gear can be used in Factional Warfare and PC. As low as you think 28 is, have you seen what people have managed to do with it? You don't understand. The unmodified APEX Suits that people either grinded for or paid for have meta levels higher than 28. People with APEX suits would not be able to use them unless they play FW or PC which would end up being a really bad idea to do because everyone will be running Proto/Officer Gear in those game modes. I don't care what anybody can do with a 28 meta level suit. If you want a Meta Lock in matches we should look at the highest Meta Level out of all the APEX suits and set that as the max; or we could just remove all Prototype and Officer Gear from Public Contracts with an exception to APEX Suits.
I kinda do understand. This thread is about demonstrating the flaws in the combined meta level lock idea, so maybe we agree with each other? If people can run PRO and OFC and still come in far under an APEX, this type of meta lock will do the exact opposite of what it was intended for (improving NPE). |
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