DUST Search - Kaltos' Merry Band of Traders

Shaun Iwairo wrote:

Looks like today is going to be a numbers day for me. Keep in mind that what I outlined almost never happens, that is a vet going into a pub in STD gear.

Keeping the new player in STD gear (because let's face it, isk and SP limits are real for them) and;

Putting the vet into the same fit with everything at ADV level gives them:
372.5 Shield HP
347.5 Armor HP
and they do:
27.3 HP/round to Shield
43.1 HP/round to Armor

For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (372.5/24) + (347.5/32.8) =~ 26.1 rounds
For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/27.3) + (271/43.1) =~ 16.8 rounds

A new player going toe to toe with a vet in ADV gear needs to land about 55% more shots to come out on top.

Now things get nasty
Putting the vet into the same fit with everything at PRO level gives them:
407.7 Shield HP
402.5 Armor HP
and they do:
30.45 HP/round to Shield
46.8 HP/round to Armor

For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (407.7/24) + (402.5/32.8) =~ 29.25 rounds
For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/30.45) + (271/46.8) =~ 15.2 rounds

A new player going toe to toe with a vet in PRO gear needs to land about 93% more shots to come out on top.

I admit this is a rare(ish) case, but if the vet puts on their try hard pants and pulls out an officer weapon:

For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (407.7/24) + (402.5/32.8) =~ 29.25 rounds
For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/33.6) + (271/51.5) =~ 13.8 rounds

A new player going toe to toe with a vet in PRO gear with an OFC weapon needs to land about 112% more shots to come out on top.

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Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H No Context 266	Posted - 2015.10.04 16:33:00 - [31] - Quote Jamie Survivors wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Jamie Survivors wrote: Well from reading I was going to say in a few short days I'd be joining to battle with youDaemon but you going be on vacation for my first week home. Hope you have fun over there! Have a safe trip to and from. Look forward to more vids though haha Ha you should play some pubs with these guys if you're interested, great group of dudes! Welcome back though Jamie! Same with the trade squad, feel free to squad up with Y.A.M.A.H. members or No Context members, I have yet to play with a bad Corp mate or alliance member. Thanks! We are now live on FB as Y.A.M.A.H! Cody, leafar, Sned, Travis, Wish, Sellene , thelos, Chevy and me chat it up everyday! I'll definitely join the page! I'm on a 30 day ban from Facebook but as soon as that's lifted I'll join in!
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.10.04 16:46:00 - [32] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Few of us who are usually more active in trading and business decided to get together and play some pubs. You can find videos under Kaltos Darksbane on Youtube. Nothing too exciting yet, but soon I'm sure we'll have some awesome content for you all. Our videos will feature laughs, beer, and lots of teamwork. Kaltos will also be livestreaming on occasion, which we will drop the link here and update this thread when it's live. Here's one video where we pulled out a narrow win against several corp squads and lots of proto-stompers: Trade Team Pulls Out A Win Nice job guys! PS - Hal P. is into bumper cars. That first engagement! This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 621	Posted - 2015.10.04 16:57:00 - [33] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Few of us who are usually more active in trading and business decided to get together and play some pubs. You can find videos under Kaltos Darksbane on Youtube. Nothing too exciting yet, but soon I'm sure we'll have some awesome content for you all. Our videos will feature laughs, beer, and lots of teamwork. Kaltos will also be livestreaming on occasion, which we will drop the link here and update this thread when it's live. Here's one video where we pulled out a narrow win against several corp squads and lots of proto-stompers: Trade Team Pulls Out A Win Nice job guys! PS - Hal P. is into bumper cars. That first engagement! Yeah, i suck. What of it? If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
CommanderBolt Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.10.04 17:03:00 - [34] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Few of us who are usually more active in trading and business decided to get together and play some pubs. You can find videos under Kaltos Darksbane on Youtube. Nothing too exciting yet, but soon I'm sure we'll have some awesome content for you all. Our videos will feature laughs, beer, and lots of teamwork. Kaltos will also be livestreaming on occasion, which we will drop the link here and update this thread when it's live. Here's one video where we pulled out a narrow win against several corp squads and lots of proto-stompers: Trade Team Pulls Out A Win Nice job guys! PS - Hal P. is into bumper cars. That first engagement! Yeah, i suck. What of it? I didn't say that you suck, I was merely happy to see someone who struggles as much as I do with KB/M when it comes to aiming in this game. It looks like you are not using aim assist? This is the turning point, the rising of the tide. No fear inside
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 621	Posted - 2015.10.04 17:11:00 - [35] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Few of us who are usually more active in trading and business decided to get together and play some pubs. You can find videos under Kaltos Darksbane on Youtube. Nothing too exciting yet, but soon I'm sure we'll have some awesome content for you all. Our videos will feature laughs, beer, and lots of teamwork. Kaltos will also be livestreaming on occasion, which we will drop the link here and update this thread when it's live. Here's one video where we pulled out a narrow win against several corp squads and lots of proto-stompers: Trade Team Pulls Out A Win Nice job guys! PS - Hal P. is into bumper cars. That first engagement! Yeah, i suck. What of it? I didn't say that you suck, I was merely happy to see someone who struggles as much as I do with KB/M when it comes to aiming in this game. It looks like you are not using aim assist? Well i do suck at shooters, lol. Nope no AA, i hate when im shooting at someone and my aim starts tracking someone else behind them. Pisses me off. Also those damn scouts and their miniscule hitboxes. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 955	Posted - 2015.10.04 17:52:00 - [36] - Quote What's your in-game channel? Would love to squad up for funs :D Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H No Context 266	Posted - 2015.10.04 18:32:00 - [37] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: What's your in-game channel? Would love to squad up for funs :D Kaltos is the channel overlord, I'll let him invite or post the name. It's a very exclusive club... I have a little channel called Teamwork 514 people can loiter in, so far it's only me and close friends so it's usually empty. But every feel free to join for squads, safe trading sanctioned by MMs, fit advice, drunken rants and cheap mic sex rates. I'll start adding people to it so we can grow it. Add anyone friendly and trustworthy, let's grow a new channel for legit ass motherfuckers!
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 621	Posted - 2015.10.04 18:35:00 - [38] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: What's your in-game channel? Would love to squad up for funs :D We mainly use "SHADOW WOLVES EMPIRE" it shoulb be open to public but if not send message to me or Daemonn for invite. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 955	Posted - 2015.10.04 20:17:00 - [39] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Kierkegaard Soren wrote: What's your in-game channel? Would love to squad up for funs :D Kaltos is the channel overlord, I'll let him invite or post the name. It's a very exclusive club... I have a little channel called Teamwork 514 people can loiter in, so far it's only me and close friends so it's usually empty. But every feel free to join for squads, safe trading sanctioned by MMs, fit advice, drunken rants and cheap mic sex rates. I'll start adding people to it so we can grow it. Add anyone friendly and trustworthy, let's grow a new channel for legit ass motherfuckers! Awww yisss. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Hal P DUST University Ivy League 90	Posted - 2015.10.04 22:53:00 - [40] - Quote Starting to enjoy this squad thingamajig. I keep wandering off to the other side of the map on my own many many times though. Sorry. I like enemy redlines. That and crashing (driving superbly) LAVs. Clones turn to Dust, but knowledge is eternal.

Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 277	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:38:00 - [41] - Quote Teamwork 514 is growing! Keep adding good and reputable people, friends! So because proto stomping is a common source of frustration here's some interesting numbers from another thread: Shaun Iwairo wrote: Looks like today is going to be a numbers day for me. Keep in mind that what I outlined almost never happens, that is a vet going into a pub in STD gear. Keeping the new player in STD gear (because let's face it, isk and SP limits are real for them) and; Putting the vet into the same fit with everything at ADV level gives them: 372.5 Shield HP 347.5 Armor HP and they do: 27.3 HP/round to Shield 43.1 HP/round to Armor For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (372.5/24) + (347.5/32.8) =~ 26.1 rounds For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/27.3) + (271/43.1) =~ 16.8 rounds A new player going toe to toe with a vet in ADV gear needs to land about 55% more shots to come out on top. Now things get nasty Putting the vet into the same fit with everything at PRO level gives them: 407.7 Shield HP 402.5 Armor HP and they do: 30.45 HP/round to Shield 46.8 HP/round to Armor For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (407.7/24) + (402.5/32.8) =~ 29.25 rounds For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/30.45) + (271/46.8) =~ 15.2 rounds A new player going toe to toe with a vet in PRO gear needs to land about 93% more shots to come out on top. I admit this is a rare(ish) case, but if the vet puts on their try hard pants and pulls out an officer weapon: For the new player to take down the vet they need to land (407.7/24) + (402.5/32.8) =~ 29.25 rounds For the vet to take down the new player they need to land (288/33.6) + (271/51.5) =~ 13.8 rounds A new player going toe to toe with a vet in PRO gear with an OFC weapon needs to land about 112% more shots to come out on top.
Kito-Kiske MIDNIGHT BOYS ASSAULT BAND 124	Posted - 2015.10.05 06:58:00 - [42] - Quote Trying to be a good scout and people disrespecting you for it is another source of frustration imo...I remember why I stopped playing scout for some time -_- but at least I'm doing waaaay better than I did before "May your road lead you to warm sands." - Khajiit Caravaneer
Hal P DUST University Ivy League 93	Posted - 2015.10.05 12:12:00 - [43] - Quote Mostly run an APEX Hawk scout with a Quafe CR. I lose 0 ISK. Proto-warrior loses 150k twice and switches to ADV/Frontline fit. Clones turn to Dust, but knowledge is eternal.
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 626	Posted - 2015.10.05 18:33:00 - [44] - Quote Streaming now. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Jakkal Shoobah Eastern Star Recon Group 283	Posted - 2015.10.05 18:43:00 - [45] - Quote I like trading and driving in cars . I have another good friend who may be interested. We bring wheels and bullets to the table. Also ads. I'll look up these chats. Is YAMAH recruiting these days ? While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 626	Posted - 2015.10.05 23:25:00 - [46] - Quote Alright everyone, i got the kinks worked out of the stream. Its not all squished anymore. Currently uploading 2 more vids to youtube. Thanks to Hal P and Kito-Kiste for squadding up today. Will be up and streaming at about 0800 pacific time tomorrow. I think thats 1500 eve time. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Jamie Survivors 1	Posted - 2015.10.05 23:32:00 - [47] - Quote Jakkal Shoobah wrote: I like trading and driving in cars . I have another good friend who may be interested. We bring wheels and bullets to the table. Also ads. I'll look up these chats. Is YAMAH recruiting these days ? Yes Jakkal we still are buddy! Nice to see you stil around! Director of Y.A.M.A.H Watch your back, I'm the footsteps you hear before getting whacked!
Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.06 00:22:00 - [48] - Quote What chat channel do you guys hang out in? Seriously, port it. Hurry
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 637	Posted - 2015.10.06 02:02:00 - [49] - Quote Either "Shadow Wolves Empire" or Teamwork 514 or Fury 514. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 291	Posted - 2015.10.06 02:42:00 - [50] - Quote Kito-Kiske wrote: Trying to be a good scout and people disrespecting you for it is another source of frustration imo...I remember why I stopped playing scout for some time -_- but at least I'm doing waaaay better than I did before You're good Kito, stop being so modest.

Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 291	Posted - 2015.10.06 02:46:00 - [51] - Quote Alright guys, I'm in Hawaii, more specifically Waikiki. Guess what? My hotel has PS3 units stock in every room. Updating and downloading Dust. When my lady passes out, I might just have to get on. Plus whoever gets this room next will have Dust ready, cuz u know, everyone plays it! Snorkel, eat, drink, sex, Dust, sleep and repeat. Good vacation is good.
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 291	Posted - 2015.10.06 02:47:00 - [52] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright everyone, i got the kinks worked out of the stream. Its not all squished anymore. Currently uploading 2 more vids to youtube. Thanks to Hal P and Kito-Kiste for squadding up today. Will be up and streaming at about 0800 pacific time tomorrow. I think thats 1500 eve time. Dang nabbit, I be jelly.
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 637	Posted - 2015.10.06 03:20:00 - [53] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright everyone, i got the kinks worked out of the stream. Its not all squished anymore. Currently uploading 2 more vids to youtube. Thanks to Hal P and Kito-Kiste for squadding up today. Will be up and streaming at about 0800 pacific time tomorrow. I think thats 1500 eve time. Dang nabbit, I be jelly. We will still be here Daemonn. Enjoy your vacation. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Kito-Kiske MIDNIGHT BOYS ASSAULT BAND 134	Posted - 2015.10.06 06:15:00 - [54] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Kito-Kiske wrote: Trying to be a good scout and people disrespecting you for it is another source of frustration imo...I remember why I stopped playing scout for some time -_- but at least I'm doing waaaay better than I did before You're good Kito, stop being so modest. Ah thanks man lol "May your road lead you to warm sands." - Khajiit Caravaneer
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 291	Posted - 2015.10.06 08:28:00 - [55] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Daemonn Adima wrote: Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Alright everyone, i got the kinks worked out of the stream. Its not all squished anymore. Currently uploading 2 more vids to youtube. Thanks to Hal P and Kito-Kiste for squadding up today. Will be up and streaming at about 0800 pacific time tomorrow. I think thats 1500 eve time. Dang nabbit, I be jelly. We will still be here Daemonn. Enjoy your vacation. Apparently my psn is activated across 3 units. Have no idea where or who, but Dust in Hawaii isn't looking so hot. My girl is passed out naked in bed and I've got 4 more beers. I think I'm gonna go try out all the local hotel pools. Mmmm yeah. Decision made. cannon ball
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 963	Posted - 2015.10.06 11:13:00 - [56] - Quote I should be online for 3pm EvE time, I'll try and jump on. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Hal P DUST University Ivy League 97	Posted - 2015.10.06 14:24:00 - [57] - Quote Hawaii sounds pretty fun, Daemonn! Clones turn to Dust, but knowledge is eternal.
Kaltos Darksbane Shadow Wolves Inc. 637	Posted - 2015.10.06 14:24:00 - [58] - Quote Going live in a few. If you don't receive the answer you want please be patient, my "F**k's Given" dispenser is broke.
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 295	Posted - 2015.10.06 18:29:00 - [59] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: Going live in a few. Raaaaawwrrr! Let me know how it goes! I'll drink a mai tai for you guys today! Also post your twitch link Kaltos, although I imagine I can search for it pretty easily!
Daemonn Adima Y.A.M.A.H 295	Posted - 2015.10.06 20:08:00 - [60] - Quote Hal P wrote: Hawaii sounds pretty fun, Daemonn! Flew over Pearl Harbor and the USAF base. So many C-130s, even saw an AC-130 with its weaponry mounted! I would kill for planetside style dropships and gun ships. You could have a nose gun, 2 side gunners and a tail gunner and fit 8 other passengers and a small vehicle with passengers. I would fly circles around engagements raining tank shells down on everything. Thing was tough too, definitely able to get away from AA and a good tail gunner could take out any enemy air. You could equip the tailgun to be AA too!



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