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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.01 22:45:00 -
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or Adapt or Die?
Yea, good times. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 01:15:00 -
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How we were introduced to Dust:
Hardcore, cut-throat universe filled with scammers and people willing to sell you for an extra buck. If you wanted to get ahead you needed to know what works best when and carve a name for yourself in the blood and tears of your enemies. No excuses to use what's inferior, spec always into what's best.
How you guys are being introduced:
Balance plz. FOTM is bad. This community is dying! Port Port Port!!!
lol |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 03:05:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:How we were introduced to Dust:
Hardcore, cut-throat universe filled with scammers and people willing to sell you for an extra buck. If you wanted to get ahead you needed to know what works best when and carve a name for yourself in the blood and tears of your enemies. No excuses to use what's inferior, spec always into what's best.
How you guys are being introduced:
Balance plz. FOTM is bad. This community is dying! Port Port Port!!!
lol I think this is the kinda stuff that got you banned in the first place. Or did you forget that ccp doesn't care about you? I for one would rather we go back to the days of the only rifle and 4 suits to chose from lets go back to the old days where only eve players could play dust and get rid of these scrubby forums. Indeed, I'm cut from a finer cloth, where I don't hold my tongue because space gods get antsy.
And no one said the game isn't in better shape with more choices - which should of enhanced the HTFU, instead, more tears for balance. You peasants will never be pleased, and the same groups, the same people, always winning in PC regardless of what is FOTM, as it has been since the beginning.
I think it's obvious where the problem lies. Adapt or die, scrub. It's an age old saying that should of never left.
The game's balance isn't the problem - you scrubs unable to HTFU or Adapt or Die is. GG didn't mean good game, it meant Git Gud. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 03:21:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:*tries to adapt. Gets killed by 4 people with arrs. Tries to adapt again. Gets killed by a tank. Pulls out av to "adapt" and starts killing tank. Out pops AHMG heavy with 1200 armor and a logi. Tries to adapt again by jihading. Rams tank head on at terminal velocity and lav doesn't explode. TAPS friendly tank and dies instantly. Starts sniping. Gets killed killcard says thale on 1200 armor amarr sentinel with a logi that has a six kin rep tool. Sits in MCC waiting for this game to die. Jumpy minscout kills with nova knives. Sits in map till match is over. Minscout proceeds to jump into biomass vats to find me*
Why play this game anymore? I will address these concerns to prove him a scrub.
Firstly. 4 vs 1 - it doesn't matter what weapon is shooting you, you're going to die. Try adapting by not being an idiot in where you're at, adapt mean more then just suits.
And you have to be the only 1 adapting to the tank? You're playing solo, complaining you can't handle everything in front of you? You're a selfish prick, sir, and CCP isn't here to cater to your every desire, pick a role.
And you counter heavy + logi with jihading? I think in your own rant here you confused two ideas. But again, it's a 2 v 1 situation, if you had two people gunning down the heavy at once the rep tool does less health per second then most guns do damage, so, uh, you're just being a fool.
And CCP does have shady programming, has since day one. You adapt by learning where the bugs are an avoiding them, not bash your head constantly doing them.
And there's no problem with people adapting a sentinel snipe suit, wtf kinda tears is that. Big hit box + easy to scan. You got problems with this, how? lol
Jumpy suits have there disadvantages too, they sacrifice 3 highs to get that ability to be of any use, they will always lack health, or give up a lot of speed to gain that health. If you want to fight these guys head on - then by all means, just don't cry when you die. You're obviously not even attempting to adapt here with there limited range of fire and actual use. There's a reason you don't see this often in PC.
I agree, why play this game anymore when its littered with bad players crying for CCP to make it easier for them? It'll just lead to more depressing updates. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 03:29:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:*tries to adapt. Gets killed by 4 people with arrs. Tries to adapt again. Gets killed by a tank. Pulls out av to "adapt" and starts killing tank. Out pops AHMG heavy with 1200 armor and a logi. Tries to adapt again by jihading. Rams tank head on at terminal velocity and lav doesn't explode. TAPS friendly tank and dies instantly. Starts sniping. Gets killed killcard says thale on 1200 armor amarr sentinel with a logi that has a six kin rep tool. Sits in MCC waiting for this game to die. Jumpy minscout kills with nova knives. Sits in map till match is over. Minscout proceeds to jump into biomass vats to find me*
Why play this game anymore? I will address these concerns to prove him a scrub. Firstly. 4 vs 1 - it doesn't matter what weapon is shooting you, you're going to die. Try adapting by not being an idiot in where you're at, adapt mean more then just suits. And you have to be the only 1 adapting to the tank? You're playing solo, complaining you can't handle everything in front of you? You're a selfish prick, sir, and CCP isn't here to cater to your every desire, pick a role. And you counter heavy + logi with jihading? I think in your own rant here you confused two ideas. But again, it's a 2 v 1 situation, if you had two people gunning down the heavy at once the rep tool does less health per second then most guns do damage, so, uh, you're just being a fool. And CCP does have shady programming, has since day one. You adapt by learning where the bugs are an avoiding them, not bash your head constantly doing them. And there's no problem with people adapting a sentinel snipe suit, wtf kinda tears is that. Big hit box + easy to scan. You got problems with this, how? lol Jumpy suits have there disadvantages too, they sacrifice 3 highs to get that ability to be of any use, they will always lack health, or give up a lot of speed to gain that health. If you want to fight these guys head on - then by all means, just don't cry when you die. You're obviously not even attempting to adapt here with there limited range of fire and actual use. There's a reason you don't see this often in PC. I agree, why play this game anymore when its littered with bad players crying for CCP to make it easier for them? It'll just lead to more depressing updates. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the one kid that has no life. So much so that he actually has the time and wherewithal to keep at this broken game. Lol, learn to deal with the bugs; That's what beer is for. Is that how peasants deal with being bad? Calling others no lifers?
Indeed, I put time and effort into what I enjoy, I hope it makes me a good enough player to support my team, tis all I can hope to do!
Is that a problem, for you? Or is your inferiority showing
Again, the same people, the same groups, will always be crushing you guys. You will always be seeing the same tags winning the game for there side, because they're players who understand the concept of Adapt or Die.
Players like you, and Death, you're what we consider, blue berries. And you have your excuses for it, apparently your must be, "I have a life"
Well, sir, go live that life, and stop trying to balance a game you don't have time for. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 03:47:00 -
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Honestly, you guys have lost your self-respect as players. Reading your posts, it's like you expect this game to cater to your every situation, or help your survive every encounter.
The other side has every advantage and strategy you guys do, whose using it the best? Whose working better together?
This isn't what you guys are looking at, you're looking at everything else that may or may not even be related to the why to your team losing.
Look at PC - where one bad player can be the reason your team lost because a position got overwhelemed and lead to too many catch ups. Are you saying in your pub games you yourselves should be able to make up for bad players?
You can't, that's the issue with pubs, that's why we've wanted full team deploy in FW rather then just PC.
Look at the guy you're defending, what he had to say. I broke it all down and explained how it was his approach that lead to the problem, not the game design.
There's more counter vs counter play, then ever. You can't spam vehicles or any 1 weapon and suit and expect to win like you could with Cal Logi's or Type-II's. You guys have it easy now with balance.
But still, the tears, and PC is more stagnant then ever because none of you are able to compete - yet you talk tough on the forums.
Peasants, the lot of you. HTFU died because none of you could do it yourselves to be able to utter to another. Bask in your shame as players, and be glad CCP even looks your way. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 04:06:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Sota, don't bother.
These bums can't even hack a forum beef, let alone step up in game.
If I threw a post at one of these babies like you and I used to lob at each other on the regular they would be calling their lawyer rather than nutting up and getting a good scrap going.
The core of not bad players gets smaller and smaller. The pubscrubs keep getting reinforcements though, so its only a matter of time before they turn what is left into a shadow of its former self.
The don't won't New Eden FPS, they just want a crappy, F2P CoD ripoff that doesn't make them feel bad for being bad. In a game that's main designed used to be don't bring onto the field what you can't afford - CCP has catered to these peasants, enough.
Risk vs Reward is almost completely gone with Apex suits. And the issue is accepted widely.
The same concept was once proposed back in closed beta - got smashed. The idea of ISK not having value was disheartening, it meant the only true value of your character is SP. We wanted more in our meta.
But the casuals wouldn't stand for it, and didn't understand that system prevented a lot of players from constantly going all-out. A system that only fell a part with nothing to drop ISK into - but with officer gear + trade system, there's plenty of ways to spend it now.
You're right that these scrubs can't handle a good forum fight. Our weakest argument would be seen as a vile demonstration of two humans seeping themselves into the depths of hell to these people. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 05:28:00 -
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This is the responses I get?
When did I even call myself good? Can i get a quote or did you just admit you're lying? What kind of weak **** is that? Only idiots need to start making stuff up to have something to say. You were better off leaving the thread.
All I did was explain how your reasonings lead me to believe you're bad.
like you said earlier, it's just an FPS. It's pretty easy, so it's pretty bad when you support people openly admitted and showed by example why they're bad.
This offended you, and I laugh at that. I'm old school Dust, your tears drive my LAVs. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 05:38:00 -
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DogeGode Master wrote:Ayyy yo rather than trying to make a balanced game, let's just reward the great players who just so happened to skill into what Rattatati over-buffed. I mean they must be gud if they skilled into suits with broken amounts damage outputs, HP-tank, and mobility amarite?
All those heavies that spammed Burst Hmgs? Those were the best players in the game right? Right?
Hot damn sota you're a freeking genius, next you'll tell us it was a good idea to fight in Vietnam. What the hell else would go on with this game if balance wasn't discussed?
Edit: Oh yeah I remember HTFU was a phrased use by bitter scrubs, I mean vets, to defend their totally balanced blaster maddies, and cal logis. What a time to be alive that was, everyone running the same fit? Talk about diverse emergent gameplay 10/10 IGN. Now this is better.
but it's still QQ.
Everyone will always have an excuse to why someone else beats them, lag, gear, team mates not helping.
But honestly, you died because you put yourself in a situation where someone got a clear aim at you and killed you, and you didn't have enough support to compensate for the encounter.
Is that CCP's fault? Should they fix assault's so you can down enemies quickly enough and survive long enough so you can kill everything in front of you before you realize Speed is a meta too and falling back is a part of the game?
Maybe you're just losing a lot of your 1v1's, and noticing a trend? And apparently, it's burst HMG's with you, which I hope isn't the case, because that weapon has no range and over-heats at the third burst, why are you getting close?
Maybe amarr is slaughtering you and you're no good with the RR or CR?
Maybe it's RR that's killing you, and you can't figure out how to get up close?
Why can't you just admit you suck so we get CCP to possibly put more staff on fixing servers then fixing you guys sucking. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 05:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:dear entire thread; Too long, did not read tl'dr version:
everyone sucks. |
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 06:15:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Press Attache wrote:Sota, don't bother.
These bums can't even hack a forum beef, let alone step up in game.
If I threw a post at one of these babies like you and I used to lob at each other on the regular they would be calling their lawyer rather than nutting up and getting a good scrap going.
The core of not bad players gets smaller and smaller. The pubscrubs keep getting reinforcements though, so its only a matter of time before they turn what is left into a shadow of its former self.
The don't won't New Eden FPS, they just want a crappy, F2P CoD ripoff that doesn't make them feel bad for being bad. In a game that's main designed used to be don't bring onto the field what you can't afford - CCP has catered to these peasants, enough. Risk vs Reward is almost completely gone with Apex suits. And the issue is accepted widely. The same concept was once proposed back in closed beta - got smashed. The idea of ISK not having value was disheartening, it meant the only true value of your character is SP. We wanted more in our meta. But the casuals wouldn't stand for it, and didn't understand that system prevented a lot of players from constantly going all-out. A system that only fell a part with nothing to drop ISK into - but with officer gear + trade system, there's plenty of ways to spend it now. You're right that these scrubs can't handle a good forum fight. Our weakest argument would be seen as a vile demonstration of two humans seeping themselves into the depths of hell to these people. Risk vs Reward? A lot of the players people complain about have an unlimited supply of ISK provided to them by their Corporation. Where is the Risk vs Reward in that? There are people running Proto nonstop in Public Matches because they do not have to deal with Risk vs. Reward. How about this... We remove squads from Public Matches and implement a metalock that way you can HTFU. I only use Templar stuff in Pubs, your meta lock will not effect me and my STD suits and weapons.
And you obviously can't read, so move along, please. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 07:54:00 -
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DogeGode Master wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote: (trash rhetoric)
Nah bruuh, CCP wouldn't fix server lag even if they wanted to "Why should we if these dumb consolers are paying for aur no matter how much lag they encounter? They're almost as bad as the geniuses that pay 15 dollars a month to play WoW in space." Bruuh I was talking about when the burst hmg was beyond overpowered. 2 burst, any suit, done. Were the players that used it good? lolno. Was everyone that used the flaylock when it was god-mode good? Definitely not. The comparison between what is advertised, and balancing is a hilariously bad argument. A cut-throat universe with scammers wouldn't have weapons that are useless compared to each other, it's basic economics, and it works. Ex.)Breach shotgun is completely trash compared to the regular, therefore the Breach isn't used at all. Why keep it in the game? The only logical step would be to remove it, or balance it. It's the same with everything in the game. Ayy yo but with the kind of trash arguments you put up, you'd be ripe for a spot on the American Republican primary. Edit: Ayy Lmao smh.
This guy will never get it. We can look forward to his QQ threads when CCP nerfs his weapons. Because this game really does work like a buyers market, with competitors trying to change stock to out-due to each other.
A real balance can't be struck in a game that has this many variants, especially with how maps are designed. Range weapons have a huge edge as it is with how maps are vertically placed, and where range doesn't dominate the heavy does - there's very few middle ground area's for the other weapons to find a comfy spot to engage.
if CCP doesn't flat-line shield/armor, then it confuses the weapon balance even further, since shield users have less health, weapons that do extra damage against shields would need over-all less DPS - but that means against armor users weapons strong vs shield are useless, while weapons that are vs armor with higher DPS would have an easier time shredding shield.
This is why you need to learn to adapt or die, HTFU, and GG. Excuses like yours are for the defeated. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 14:44:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Fluffy Exterminatus wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:*tries to adapt. Gets killed by 4 people with arrs. Tries to adapt again. Gets killed by a tank. Pulls out av to "adapt" and starts killing tank. Out pops AHMG heavy with 1200 armor and a logi. Tries to adapt again by jihading. Rams tank head on at terminal velocity and lav doesn't explode. TAPS friendly tank and dies instantly. Starts sniping. Gets killed killcard says thale on 1200 armor amarr sentinel with a logi that has a six kin rep tool. Sits in MCC waiting for this game to die. Jumpy minscout kills with nova knives. Sits in map till match is over. Minscout proceeds to jump into biomass vats to find me*
Why play this game anymore? You can be that minscout I am that minscout I was making fun of scru... I mean OP who should be banned right now for avoiding ban evasion. I was making an observation of how this game is broken and no matter what you do you'll find bugs everywhere. All of the stuff I listed are things that people are crying about right now and was trying to make light of soda being a prick but he can't take a joke apparently. lol, tells me I should be banned, but I'm the one who can't take a joke.
That's pretty much exactly what I expect from you peasants.
And your 'list' was completely debunked as useless blue berry non-sense. It did nothing but show how bad you and the people you apparently pay attention too, are.
The only true imbalance in the game is the ScR over-performing against armor, and it's honestly not that bad.
But you know, no matter how easy CCP makes this game for you guys, none of you will ever make a decent PC corp, CCP's wasting there time and energy listening to you scrubs. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 14:53:00 -
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There's another part of HTFU you guys will never understand
And it's the RP value of it.
Something that has almost 100% completely disappeared from this games, aside from Amarr Fanatics, may the empress rest in peace. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 16:44:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:It's sad. The Kleenex has been moved from aisle 6 to General Discussion. You guys have gone Hollywood. You must be new to the forums.
This is how things used to be - until you care-bears took over. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:31:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Look, I got dumb and dumber answering my reply with no understanding of what I was saying. I've been here since the beginning Nancy. Admittedly, your comment could be taken in several different ways. 'you guys' could of meant either side, and going hollywood doesn't necessarily imply anything bad, could be interesting, have high production values, and has hit or miss moments. :D
but for the sake of continuing the fun, let's troll! :3 |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:19:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:chill penguin wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Look, I got dumb and dumber answering my reply with no understanding of what I was saying. I've been here since the beginning Nancy. Can't you tell that they at both alts of soda? Its not that hard when you know how soda thinks and acts. I am Vahzz dammit. well act like VAHZZ (correct capitalization) not soda. Don't you hate it when you think you know something when you really don't?
It's like watching you complain you can't 1 v 4, or 2 v 1 a heavy and logi, or be able to kill infantry then tanks immediately afterwords.
lol.... |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:21:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Look, I got dumb and dumber answering my reply with no understanding of what I was saying. I've been here since the beginning Nancy. Admittedly, your comment could be taken in several different ways. 'you guys' could of meant either side, and going hollywood doesn't necessarily imply anything bad, could be interesting, have high production values, and has hit or miss moments. :D but for the sake of continuing the fun, let's troll! :3 Wait, am i dumb? Or am i dumber? SoTa help me out here, i thought i was smarticle. How can any of us claim to be intelligent when we choose Dust as our game of choice.
Do you tell your friends who are in abusive relationships where there partner lies and misleads to get to there wallets that they're smart for trying to fix it?
We're all stupid, each in our own ways.
Just Death Shadow is a bit dumber then others. |
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