DUST Search - [CPM Feedback] Serious Concerns & Call to Arms

Adipem Nothi wrote:

CPM Feedback Thread wrote:

This thread will have a limited duration to encourage feedback in a timely manner and WILL be closed down if it becomes derailed.

Two CPM feedback threads on shields were opened and closed in a span of only ~3 days. Here we are again.

These narrow, seemingly arbitrary windows serve to restrict Community feedback, and they are sending the wrong signals to the playerbase. If it is a goal of CPM to promote Community feedback, why confine the Community's opportunity to offer feedback to such narrow timeframes?

Of greater concern, why would CPM threaten to cut off feedback in an official feedback thread on account of what one representative may or may not arbitrarily deem to be derailment? Under what set of circumstances could that be reasonable, much less practicable? Have we not accounted for the possibility of troll or intentional derailment?

If nothing else, we should consider how precedent might affect us down the road. What might future CPM Feedback threads look like if CPM3 or CPM4 were not as ... judicious in their dealings as their predecessors? Might 3-day, official feedback windows be further restricted to 2 days? Or even 1?

To CPM:
I strongly urge the CPM to check themselves and put these shenanigans to rest. CPM2 was not elected to introduce the tools of fascism to the forums, and CPM2 is not in any position to wield such tools effectively. Attempts to do so will succeed only in damaging DUST and detracting from those things which makes these Forums uniquely great: the earnest participation, interest and involvement of the Community. Keeping us involved keeps us invested; suppressing our involvement will assuredly drive us away. You may not need our involvement and investment, but I would humbly remind you that DUST very likely does.

To CCP:
I'm posting these concerns -- at high risk of moderation, I'm sure -- in hopes of protecting something I've come to appreciate as truly special. These DUST Forums and the Community here gathered have their flaws, but they stand head-and-shoulders above everything else out there. Nothing else compares. I believe you have something truly unique and successful happening here, and I'm proud to be a part of it. I'd humbly encourage you to protect those things which keep these Forums and Community Feedback alive and well.

To the Community:
Don't let yourselves be bullied. Recognize suppression for what it is. Call it out and shut it down. Don't let CPM attempt to restrict, circumvent or arbitrarily silence your right as a player to offer feedback; if you let them get away with it now, they'll always get away with it. Remember that CPM are here to represent the Community, not to replace it, and certainly not to rule over it.

To Aeon Amadi:
You just so happen to be the guy holding the gun. These concerns aren't about you; they're about precedent. I hope you're able to understand.


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Vesta Opalus Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.09.30 07:26:00 - [1] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: CPM Feedback Thread wrote: This thread will have a limited duration to encourage feedback in a timely manner and WILL be closed down if it becomes derailed. Two CPM feedback threads on shields were opened and closed in a span of only ~3 days. Here we are again. These narrow, seemingly arbitrary windows serve to restrict Community feedback, and they are sending the wrong signals to the playerbase. If it is a goal of CPM to promote Community feedback, why confine the Community's opportunity to offer feedback to such narrow timeframes? Of greater concern, why would CPM threaten to cut off feedback in an official feedback thread on account of what one representative may or may not arbitrarily deem to be derailment? Under what set of circumstances could that be reasonable, much less practicable? Have we not accounted for the possibility of troll or intentional derailment? If nothing else, we should consider how precedent might affect us down the road. What might future CPM Feedback threads look like if CPM3 or CPM4 were not as ... judicious in their dealings as their predecessors? Might 3-day, official feedback windows be further restricted to 2 days? Or even 1? To CPM: I strongly urge the CPM to check themselves and put these shenanigans to rest. CPM2 was not elected to introduce the tools of fascism to the forums, and CPM2 is not in any position to wield such tools effectively. Attempts to do so will succeed only in damaging DUST and detracting from those things which makes these Forums uniquely great: the earnest participation, interest and involvement of the Community. Keeping us involved keeps us invested; suppressing our involvement will assuredly drive us away. You may not need our involvement and investment, but I would humbly remind you that DUST very likely does. To CCP: I'm posting these concerns -- at high risk of moderation, I'm sure -- in hopes of protecting something I've come to appreciate as truly special. These DUST Forums and the Community here gathered have their flaws, but they stand head-and-shoulders above everything else out there. Nothing else compares. I believe you have something truly unique and successful happening here, and I'm proud to be a part of it. I'd humbly encourage you to protect those things which keep these Forums and Community Feedback alive and well. To the Community: Don't let yourselves be bullied. Recognize suppression for what it is. Call it out and shut it down. Don't let CPM attempt to restrict, circumvent or arbitrarily silence your right as a player to offer feedback; if you let them get away with it now, they'll always get away with it. Remember that CPM are here to represent the Community, not to replace it, and certainly not to rule over it. To Aeon Amadi: You just so happen to be the guy holding the gun. These concerns aren't about you; they're about precedent. I hope you're able to understand. Concentrating feedback into a single thread with a single topic for a certain time period ensures you have a centralized location to talk about stuff and the CPMs can concentrate on a single thread instead of however many spam threads might be running at the time. Im sure theres other ways to do things but there are Reasons to do stuff as they are doing. In the meantime theres nothing stopping everyone from spamming whatever crap they want where ever they want it just like normal.