Just curious as prior to hotfix foxfour, many of the SR shortcomings were brought to current CPMs attention.

Some of these issues were even brought up in Rat's stickied locked thread about what we wanted to see in the next hotfix.

Now we se alot of great balancing points that may be included in foxfour hotfix, but the sniper rifle was not mentioned.

Up to this point the only thing ever improved with the SR since I started playing was the headshot multiplier. That was a bandaid fix and did not enough to fix the many ailments that a sniper has to deal with.

I want to know is the SR and sniping even a possibility to be apart of the next hotfix? What is CCP/CPMs concerns about its currents state, and what steps are being taken to correct them?

Precisely, nothing is wrong with it. It is working more than fine, but every couple weeks we get the "OMG I can't hit a guy in the head but I want to OHK dudes from the redline" post. It gets old. The guys with proto/officer snipers and fully skilled out SRs are having no trouble sniping. The issue is all the wannabe marine recon scrubs not understanding the game, and thinking just because a gun says sniper rifle its an excuse to play solitaire from 400 meters and they want to shoe horn it into situations were it is not the right fit. Its a gun like any other gun in the game. Its not a role. I don't say "I'm a Rail rifler", and the rail rifle is not going to be good in all situations. The sooner the wannabes understand that the sooner, the "Please CCP make me a killing machine with no risk from the redline because I cant hack the actual game mechanics" stop.

I mean come on, I want an insta kill button on my control pad where I just have to see a guy and press it, but I don't think that's very good for the game. Sniping is not hard, is not a role, is not even usually helpful to the team on most maps. It is useful in a select few situation like any other weapon in this game. It is also sadly one of the options with the fewest counter strategies which is a great reason to keep it the way it is, or even better just increase the damage and make it only usable when not in the redline. That balances the risk and the reward. I just get tired of people thinking the SR is any different from other guns. Its a tool to be used some of the time when the situation calls for it. It is not a full time occupation...hence no suit named sniper. They work fine; they kill more than fine, so aside from the QQ about being bad with them I'm not sure what people want. Apparently just insta kill buttons.

I am curious about this as well. My normal fits are all ewar or all damage mods, so it will require me to try a different play style. TBH I don't think shield regen and tank will effect a sniper much as most players that come after us are speed suits with knives and shotguns.

On I side note, I am theory crafting that the other shield players will be harder to kill with a SR than armour players. Last night while I played around, I could not drop a a minmando who was obviously regulator stacked. I was using the ish with 3 complex damage and 2x krins. I was landing on average 2 shots per clip, up to 3. after a few minutes, I just stopped shooting at him period. I feel as though that statement will translate to all shield frames today, but I will report back my findings later.

Just so we're clear, you want to nerf the heavy suit sniping? If so, no prob, I always use Assault CK.0 (that reload bonus so good) to snipe in, rather be able to hide with damps than maximize damage. And now that I got a reliable sidearm, I may just run into you on the frontline's and maybe even counter snipe more often than not.

I don't even know the state of thing these days. However, the last time I was around these parts. CCP went over the top with headshot damage multiplier which only needed a small buff, and almost completely ignored increasing base damage. They also reduced the charge sniper rifle clip size from 5 to 3. Which made the Rifle obsolete when you could spam fire 5 bullets from a standard sniper rifle praying for headshots and do just as well if not better. Reducing the magazine size from 5 to 3 on the charge made the weapon incapable of killing some heavies without reloading if you hit the body on all 3 shots. Those extra bullets were needed, especially considering the lag / framerate issues of the game.

Anyway, if CCP had listened to me, and accepted my proposed damage scaling I feel this would be a lot less of an issue. Also the unrequested (unchangeable) Sniper Rifle Cross Hair change, was super annoying as well.

The normal laser rifle already tends to shut down field sniping unless the map is huge, having even more longer range weapons would just make this even worse (to say nothing of how strong lasers are if used properly already). How would yet another laser rifle be balanced in any way considering the massive disadvantages you get using a sniper rifle already? If this new rifle had the mechanics of the current laser rifle it would be absolutely insane unless the dps was so low as to make it useless anyway.

Would it have any other tradeoffs other than just a different optimal?

Also, so that it's 'easier' to tell this variant apart, could it have its own laser color?

you obviously can't read well if you really just went and underlined that one phrase in my paragraph of feedback yet negated everything else that was mentioned that COMPLETELY addresses your concerns in terms of sniper damage progression and the redline. also, no one asked for them to be effective against every suit in the game? it just becomes even more of a balancing point when shield regen just got a huge buff, our damage profile was changed to only affect armor to be in line with race/lore a few builds back, and SR damage is no where in line with the Thales in terms of progression. if just that last point was implemented things would be balanced. SR will never OHK anything that moves cause not every shot is a head shot. also, the last time i checked, you can use Assault weapons anywhere and anytime. Assaults are so one-sided, i swear.

I probably checked back too late. I apologize. There's likely no meaningful change they could make to the game at this point to get me to open my wallet to CCP again. (aside from a PC port which is the only reason I came back for the officer weapons contest, in hopes I would be playing this game for years to come) However as I recall you were there for the Red Wedding of Dust 514. I hope CCP is paying for your trip to Iceland this time around.