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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:21:00 -
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Jakkal Shoobah wrote:I can't think of a way to provide points to the gal logi for scans solo without making it Farmville.
Like so:
+1 WP for each scanned redberry
+2 WP for Team Intel Kill Assist
+15 WP for Squad Intel Kill Assist
*Note that "Team" and "Squad" Intel Kill Assist bonuses do not stack.
Even if you scan down the entire enemy team, you only get 16 WPs. If you did it 100 times (how did you manage that?!) then that does become 1600 WPs, yes.
Most likely? You scan, and pick up 5-8 players. Say 2-3 of them get killed. Rolling solo (or if squadmates don't pick up the kills), then that nets you, at most, 14 WPs. Even if we change it to, say, +2 WP/scanned enemy, and +5 WPs/Team Intel, then that's 31 WPs max.
Get a Team Spawn? +25. A few resupplies? +10 to +30 or more. Pick somebody up? +60. Triage and maybe get a Guardian? Watch the +25s roll in with a +35 in for giggles.
Suppress the enemy with a MD while your team moves in and you're busy scanning/resupplying/reinforcing with links? Have a few +25 Kill Assist and maybe even a +50 Kill or two.
Having Squad Intel being more valuable than Team Intel is possibly not so good. However, I think that there's not really any way to promote squad cohesion as "teamwork" when the main issue the playerbase as a whole seems to face is a lack of team cohesion.
This is, incidentally, why I think support actions and objective actions should be rewards better than plain "kills", as such actions are more relevant to victory in 75% of existing game modes in the most commonly played form of DUST, that being pubs.
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
247
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:35:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:WPs should reflect your contribution to your team. Scans clearly provide more benefit than the paltry wp rewards suggest. So yes I agree.
To be honest I think you could simply get wps for all teamwide intel kill assists, rather than just for you squad like now. The scans help the whole team, it doesn't make sense to only get points from your squad getting kills.
So what do you think of, say, this scoring mechanism:
-For each enemy scanned, the scanner-user receives +2 WPs
-For each scanned enemy that is killed by a teammate, the user receives +10 WPs
The slight nerf to intel kill assists is mostly because you get WPs just for scanning enemies; much like vehicle damage, there's value in simply knowing the current and future likely positions of an opponent; for example, if you're trying to avoid the enemy to ninjahack an objective.
Moreover, as the mechanic is expanded to the entire team, it's more likely that you'll be getting that intel kill assist than currently, wherein it's limited to squadmates.
Even at 66% for a kill assist, combined with the "Enemy Scanned" bonus of +2 WPs, and opening it up to apply teamwide, it should be a reasonably lucrative piece of equipment.
Not quite as WP-rich as, say, high-end Rep Tools or Links... but those offer a much higher potential WP gain anyways.
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