Gal logis are just fine.



UNTIL I start getting points for everyone who kills anyone I have scanned, it will remain just fine.


The major drawback of scans are they you get little to no WP for all your efforts and isk.

Who asked you to use 4 scanners and perma scan the entire team like a pesky little gal logi. Use other equipments like the reps or needle for a change genius.

I guess the only gear that Gal Logis can equip is Scanners, huh...

It's not like the scanners reveal where the enemy is so you can kill them or something...

Kinda think team scans should be done with, make it squad only as it used to be.. then we should be able to boost WP.

Win and WIN.

I primarily run solo so I never get intel WPs for running my GalLogi which is ********. I run all Gallente Suits but my primary suit is the GalAssault. If I switch to my GalLogi to provide scans I am doing it to benefit my team yet I get no reward for doing that.

Meanwhile squads who don't know a damn thing about running and assisting a full team get all the praise and WPs are just handed to them.

CCP, stop treating solo players like second-class citizens. We're ******* human beings too!

If wp where given for team kill's instead of squad then people would just sit back with 4 of them and hand there team a likely win while reaping lots of wp all while staying out of harms way. Helping your team so much should be reward enuf.

You have for slots:
Use them


2 scans, needle, rep, get good intel, pick up frineds, rep for WP.


Gal logi only gets bad WP if you use 4 scans and hopw for 15 wp per kill.

In a PC thats 15 wp inel for near every kill in your squad.

The idiot you guys are running with that's running 4 scanners is gimping your team smh?!

Why would you run no other equipment? The fact that you think true logis do is comical lol! That's like a Cal logi running nothing but ammo smh?!

The point is the WP gain for the gal logi is low in comparison to other logis. In order: Min, Amarr, cal, gal

No surprise hear since it's pretty much in that order with everything in this game?! With exception of a few things, the min and amarr races have crazy advantages.

That's not to say that the other races don't have advantages, but you don't see players running much Gallente anything, except the scout. It's commonly know that gal heavy is a loss to all but the loyalist that run them.

The caldari weapons are more interesting than the Cal suit's, particularly the bp and ARR.

The amarr has the best heavy, best assault bonus, logi with a sidearm, Amarr scout, devastating weapons, etc.

The min..... oh for Christ sake, do I really have to type it all out?

While I'm looking forward to the hotfix, and all the changes it will bring, I fear we're still in for a long road of imbalance overall.

Alot of players confuse balance with advantage and bonus. Having an advantage in damp doesn't make the gal scout invincible, just invisible. However, to be invisible is useless if you're paper thin?! The same can be said for the min scouts speed and quickness. The min assault comes to mind as being completely imbalanced against everything else on the field.

What the OP is asking for is WP gains to pay for it's highly requested skills. The same consideration should be there for tankers and pilots of dropships. Everyone wants to ask for these roles on the battlefield, but doesn't want to see them make isk doing it. The selfishness of the min logi in the forums is disrespectful.

Again people fail to comprehend answer that isn't "OMG you are so right"

Scans are massive power projection, and you can still equip viziam flux uplinks and rep tools on a gal logi.

So yes, scan first the direction of the heavy in front of you with 15 second scans and earn intel WP + gaurdian WP + triage WP.

It only underperforms if you dont rep or drop links and used all 4 slots for scans in a pub match.

Exactly.

How about you take off those three scanners and use some other equipment and stop that permascans

Well then, i am wasting my time with this post.

Gal logi was my third suit I unlocked about 8 months ago. The 15 points for a Intel kill provided by a squad member is horse ****. With the exceptions of resupplies because that would be farmed as ****, most logi equipment provides 25 points. When someone dies or gets shot you can get triage galore, revive galore, or spawn galore and rack up points relatively quickly.

The problem with the scanner wp is that it requires too specific a situation. Its the only equipment that actually requires a squad to make points. That doesn't mean you can't use it solo, but the only reward solo is Intel for you and your team.

Other equipment can make points solo or not. Not only do they provide a service to the team they also casually provide Wp to the solo logi. So why is the scanner gimped in the sense that it REQUIRES a squad to make points ? Don't give me none of that its op permascan ****. Any logi using an equipment that was designed for their race should be able to adequately service his allies while reaping the benefits of Wp themselves whether solo or not.

Yea while on the topic...

Why are they acually in the game, its a freekin first person shooter, scanners provide wall hacks for a 200m radius

So lets remove all active wear from infantry and vehicles and makes passives the only thing. Create a new gallente equipment that follows their philosophy of saving lives by making encounters less dangerous that does not mimic any other existing equipment. Oh yeah lets just remove ewar.

I can't think of a way to provide points to the gal logi for scans solo without making it Farmville.

If you are just stacking 4 scanners on any logi suit you aren't utilizing it properly.

I used to be a dedicated Gal Logi for two years until I skilled into other suits and my synopsis is this:

Gal Logi is superior on the field by far especially in terms of versatility. Yeah, sure Amarr gets a bonus to uplinks, Minmatard to repair. (Caldari doesn't even fall into this conversation because it takes a REALLY skilled person to be able to make that work) Now, Gal Logi you can do it all PLUS survive. So the survivability rate of Gal Logi means you have more of a chance to get more WP than a Min Logi. As far as Amarr logi's go, I have only ever seen people use them for uplink dropping otherwise a different conversation could be had. Regardless, in a Gal Logi (with minimal effort on my part) I can easily out do other logis WHEN I am solely dedicated to being a logi in that match.

I tried Min Logi eons ago and Gal Logi has always been better IMHO.

Some Min Logis can be great, sure. But I guess what it comes down to is the person in the suit making it work.

So what do you think of, say, this scoring mechanism:

-For each enemy scanned, the scanner-user receives +2 WPs
-For each scanned enemy that is killed by a teammate, the user receives +10 WPs

The slight nerf to intel kill assists is mostly because you get WPs just for scanning enemies; much like vehicle damage, there's value in simply knowing the current and future likely positions of an opponent; for example, if you're trying to avoid the enemy to ninjahack an objective.

Moreover, as the mechanic is expanded to the entire team, it's more likely that you'll be getting that intel kill assist than currently, wherein it's limited to squadmates.

Even at 66% for a kill assist, combined with the "Enemy Scanned" bonus of +2 WPs, and opening it up to apply teamwide, it should be a reasonably lucrative piece of equipment.

Not quite as WP-rich as, say, high-end Rep Tools or Links... but those offer a much higher potential WP gain anyways.

If scanners got limited to 1 scanner equippable per suit, I'd have no issues with everything blue you scan netting points - say 1 for equipment/turrets, 2-3 for players and 10 for kills. However permascans would have to be ended first, otherwise it just becomes a big WP farm. Which with permascans it already are, just for the rest of your team and not you.