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Larkson Crazy Eye
warravens
Imperium Eden
329
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Posted - 2015.09.27 15:28:00 -
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So I've been playing an alt account off and on for about a year now. I use it to test out skills before I waste my Sp on my main. That said I don't play it too much and mostly just build up passive SP on the thing. I have been trying to hit rank 2 so I could trade with it for ages but at about 5 points for login in and 1-5 points on average for a battle it takes a while to get 2k points for rank 1 and 3-4k for rank 2.
A few months ago I noticed my points to next level jumped up about 600 points, setting me back several days of work 'earning' my rank. Three days ago I was at 209 to rank 1. I missed logging in for a day on that account because to be honest it isn't that important to do so any more. Low and behold today I find myself 463 to rank 1. Is this some kind of weird bug, or an actual part of the design?
Every day you fail to login you lose such a huge chunk of your rank? I mean it's already hard enough to lnaturally level up the loyalty rank system. This basically makes it impossible for newer players to get a high enough rank to be able to do player trading imo. I mean if this is truly in place even spending money to raise your rank seems like a bad idea, after all 250+ points is 500 aurum worth of rank a day.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Hector Carson
DOOMSLAYERS O DUST
The Empire of New Eden
266
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Posted - 2015.09.27 15:31:00 -
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Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account
Logistics mk.0
Commando mk.0
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Larkson Crazy Eye
warravens
Imperium Eden
329
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Posted - 2015.09.27 15:34:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account
Eh it's more along the lines of 'play dust every day on every character or else'.
Honestly I wouldn't even have an alt account if the multiple character slot system was really worth anything. Given that they don't earn passive SP though it puts them thousands, if not missions of SP behind a character that would. If you actually want to play two completely different play styles your told to grind out an alt that earns even less SP.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Hector Carson
DOOMSLAYERS O DUST
The Empire of New Eden
266
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Posted - 2015.09.27 15:35:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account Eh it's more along the lines of 'play dust every day on every character or else'. Honestly I wouldn't even have an alt account if the multiple character slot system was really worth anything. Given that they don't earn passive SP though it puts them thousands, if not missions of SP behind a character that would. If you actually want to play two completely different play styles your told to grind out an alt that earns even less SP.
Or you can focus on the character you got and just simply skill into new things
Logistics mk.0
Commando mk.0
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
1
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Posted - 2015.09.27 15:36:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account Eh it's more along the lines of 'play dust every day on every character or else'. Honestly I wouldn't even have an alt account if the multiple character slot system was really worth anything. Given that they don't earn passive SP though it puts them thousands, if not missions of SP behind a character that would. If you actually want to play two completely different play styles your told to grind out an alt that earns even less SP.
or even better you could just stop caring about it
dust 514 ruined console gaming for me
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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Larkson Crazy Eye
warravens
Imperium Eden
329
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Posted - 2015.09.27 16:29:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account Eh it's more along the lines of 'play dust every day on every character or else'. Honestly I wouldn't even have an alt account if the multiple character slot system was really worth anything. Given that they don't earn passive SP though it puts them thousands, if not missions of SP behind a character that would. If you actually want to play two completely different play styles your told to grind out an alt that earns even less SP. or even better you could just stop caring about it
I've never cared about rank until CCP decided to make rank 2 a requirement for player trading. The whole system is complete crap. You earn next to nothing for logging in and participating in battle. Add to that you lose points far faster than you gain them makes it a joke, a joke you have to put up with for at least the first two ranks.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
424
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Posted - 2015.09.27 16:40:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account Eh it's more along the lines of 'play dust every day on every character or else'. Honestly I wouldn't even have an alt account if the multiple character slot system was really worth anything. Given that they don't earn passive SP though it puts them thousands, if not missions of SP behind a character that would. If you actually want to play two completely different play styles your told to grind out an alt that earns even less SP. or even better you could just stop caring about it I've never cared about rank until CCP decided to make rank 2 a requirement for player trading. The whole system is complete crap. You earn next to nothing for logging in and participating in battle. Add to that you lose points far faster than you gain them makes it a joke, a joke you have to put up with for at least the first two ranks.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
27
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Posted - 2015.09.27 17:18:00 -
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I don't believe you.
Most people probably earn less than 20 a day. That means if you don't log in for just one day with this in effect you would undo two weeks of progress.
I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University
Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2015.09.27 19:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I don't believe you.
Most people probably earn less than 20 a day. That means if you don't log in for just one day with this in effect you would undo two weeks of progress.
I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually.
I'm actually curious to test this. I'm going to make an alt right now and see what happens.
EDIT: Forgot Loyalty Rank is tied to the account when you make a new alt. Going to try something else....
EDIT2: Forgot I had another character already. This character has a very low Loyalty Rank at 0 which I made for Forge Guns (a story for another time there). This character mainly makes Skill Points from passive generation and last time I used him was several months ago, without logging in a single time.
Currently, that character has 677 points to go with the bar filled up 1/4th or 2/3rd of the way. Assuming your findings of a loss of 250 points per day, my character should have a completely zeroed out Loyalty Rank since it had not been logged in for several months and already had a low rank of recruit to start with.
To conclude, I believe it's what Arkena Wyrnspire already said:
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually.
Cheers! o7
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Aeon Amadi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.27 19:50:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I don't believe you.
Most people probably earn less than 20 a day. That means if you don't log in for just one day with this in effect you would undo two weeks of progress.
I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually. I'm actually curious to test this. I'm going to make an alt right now and see what happens. EDIT: Forgot Loyalty Rank is tied to the account when you make a new alt. Going to try something else....
Please do. I'm interested to see what becomes of this. Mail me the results at '[email protected]'.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
1
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Posted - 2015.09.27 19:52:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I don't believe you.
Most people probably earn less than 20 a day. That means if you don't log in for just one day with this in effect you would undo two weeks of progress.
I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually. I'm actually curious to test this. I'm going to make an alt right now and see what happens. EDIT: Forgot Loyalty Rank is tied to the account when you make a new alt. Going to try something else.... Please do. I'm interested to see what becomes of this. Mail me the results at ' [email protected]'.
hes off testing it right now
dust 514 ruined console gaming for me
pc master race
PORT IT CCP
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Larkson Crazy Eye
warravens
Imperium Eden
329
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Posted - 2015.09.27 21:37:00 -
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Well if it's a bug it's happened to me two separate times that I've noticed, across all 3 characters on the same account even if their LR values are different due to how much I might play them. And it's always 'bugged' towards the negative. I'm not suddenly gaining points I didn't have.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
Rise Of Legion.
798
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:14:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Well if it's a bug it's happened to me two separate times that I've noticed, across all 3 characters on the same account even if their LR values are different due to how much I might play them. And it's always 'bugged' towards the negative. I'm not suddenly gaining points I didn't have.
don't people remember the times they logged on and had -100k sp for no reason? |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
660
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:45:00 -
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 Don't panic.
Dust is interesting a a few way we are never fully aware of.
One interesting way is that, although they have a "Server" that stores and monitors much of your account progress, that Server does NOT store some things about your TEMPORAL progress. It relies on the internal clock of your PS3 to "relay" monitored time that you've been playing DustGǪ
It asks YOUR console's clock for information that affects your personal Warbarge cooldown period.
It asks your console's clock for info that will have a 11th hour reset affect on what Loyalty Rank they'll give you.
Strangely your console's clock doesn't seem to affect the reported age of your character "GǪCelesta Aungm: 1 year, 4 months, and 22 days"GǪ
So if you are like many players who alter their clocks' time display to manipulate photo sequence, you CAN mess up your warbarge cooldown, OR cause the Loyalty Rank to say "Rank 3" last week, and suddenly catch up and say "Rank 7" next month (when you know you didn't play and use THAT much Aur to produce that miracle, LOL).
Ask CCP to check and confirm what happened. Keep in mind, if what I wrote above applies to your case,GǪ Dust 514 may have simply just gotten around to CORRECTING something that's been wrong with your numbers for quite some time.
Let's be real. All of us are just fantasy-quarterbackers. Only the devs really KNOW the reasons why, what did who, every never, on my last birthday cake module.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Genral69 death
RAT PATROL INC.
774
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Posted - 2015.09.28 01:33:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Hector Carson wrote:Basically what they are trying to do is prevent you from creating an alt account Eh it's more along the lines of 'play dust every day on every character or else'. Honestly I wouldn't even have an alt account if the multiple character slot system was really worth anything. Given that they don't earn passive SP though it puts them thousands, if not missions of SP behind a character that would. If you actually want to play two completely different play styles your told to grind out an alt that earns even less SP. or even better you could just stop caring about it I've never cared about rank until CCP decided to make rank 2 a requirement for player trading. The whole system is complete crap. You earn next to nothing for logging in and participating in battle. Add to that you lose points far faster than you gain them makes it a joke, a joke you have to put up with for at least the first two ranks.
Hmmmm if only there was a salutation, ohh wait perhaps spend -ú5-10 on dust and you'll have your loyalty rank and some aur to buy booster, so you don't need alts
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
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Genral69 death
RAT PATROL INC.
774
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Posted - 2015.09.28 01:35:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:Well if it's a bug it's happened to me two separate times that I've noticed, across all 3 characters on the same account even if their LR values are different due to how much I might play them. And it's always 'bugged' towards the negative. I'm not suddenly gaining points I didn't have. don't people remember the times they logged on and had -100k sp for no reason?
Lol, good old passive boosters. You would get the sp faster but you wouldn't get anymore for it XD
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.09.28 01:43:00 -
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Great, another reason to say to h*ll with it and not play. Punishment rather than reward will never work. Please CCP, alienate your playerbase further.
They could have just as easily NOT given you any NEW points if you didn't log in that day.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Not Sgt Kirk
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.09.28 01:55:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I don't believe you.
Most people probably earn less than 20 a day. That means if you don't log in for just one day with this in effect you would undo two weeks of progress.
I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually. I'm actually curious to test this. I'm going to make an alt right now and see what happens. EDIT: Forgot Loyalty Rank is tied to the account when you make a new alt. Going to try something else.... Please do. I'm interested to see what becomes of this. Mail me the results at ' [email protected]'.
Send me the results via MySpace. |
Hector Carson
DOOMSLAYERS O DUST
The Empire of New Eden
266
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Posted - 2015.09.28 02:13:00 -
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Not Sgt Kirk wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I don't believe you.
Most people probably earn less than 20 a day. That means if you don't log in for just one day with this in effect you would undo two weeks of progress.
I think it far more likely that the UI is simply buggy. Which it is, actually. I'm actually curious to test this. I'm going to make an alt right now and see what happens. EDIT: Forgot Loyalty Rank is tied to the account when you make a new alt. Going to try something else.... Please do. I'm interested to see what becomes of this. Mail me the results at ' [email protected]'. Send me the results via MySpace.
HAHAHAHA myspace, was that even a thing?
Logistics mk.0
Commando mk.0
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University
Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2015.09.28 21:08:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:And it's always 'bugged' towards the negative. I'm not suddenly gaining points I didn't have.
Can you explain this more in detail?
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
2
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Posted - 2015.09.28 22:03:00 -
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You don't lose loyalty points and you never did.
If this was the case, I would have -5 loyalty rank on my test alt. Yet it sticks to LR 2 since LR introduction even tho I log in there once a week.
Modern society is lacking in empathy
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
329
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Posted - 2015.09.28 23:46:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:And it's always 'bugged' towards the negative. I'm not suddenly gaining points I didn't have. Can you explain this more in detail?
Not really much to say. I logged in to find my rank down by 250 or so points. It's the second time this had happened to me and I just happened to notice this time that I hadn't logged in for about two days when it happened. So I was curious if this was an intended mechanic or not.
The first time I lost over 600 points, enough to notice the loss but I wasn't absolutely sure how much. Since then I started to keep a score of my to next level points. I was happy because I was almost rank 1, 209 to go. Then I log in the other day and I was back at 458 to go. If you count the 5 earned for login in that day it's over 250 lost.
And no I have never altered my PlayStation clock to try and earn extra points. In fact I haven't touched it in about 8 years since I set it to automatic.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
2
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Posted - 2015.09.29 00:09:00 -
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Sitting pretty with 2 rank 11's
"Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs."
-Nega Matix
I watch anime for the boobs
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1
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Posted - 2015.09.29 00:26:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Sitting pretty with 2 rank 11's
dude wtf
if you spent all that time and money on ONE character you might have gone all the way to rank 12
now we'll never know what the name of that rank is |
Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate
RUST415
80
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Posted - 2015.09.29 00:30:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Sitting pretty with 2 rank 11's
Damn you either spend too much time playing this game or your lying
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
2
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Posted - 2015.09.29 01:12:00 -
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Axel Giatsu wrote:D4GG3R wrote:Sitting pretty with 2 rank 11's Damn you either spend too much time playing this game or your lying
Want pics?
"Dagger is like a mage, damage him enough and he runs."
-Nega Matix
I watch anime for the boobs
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ID G4f
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
37
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Posted - 2015.09.29 05:04:00 -
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Rule 32 bro
http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3201975/Rules+of+the+internet
85mil sp and counting
ID's Escrow - trade safe
Bernie sanders for president! Finally a president of the people
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Genral69 death
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
785
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Posted - 2015.09.29 08:24:00 -
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Rank 11 brigadier i believe
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
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