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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Victor889 wrote:

I'm surprised CCP don't just stop you doing the douchebag manoeuvres entirely, if no-one was able to camp above the objective/pipes they'd be forced to engage on the ground where thy should be.

If all the douchebaggery was removed from every map this would be a much better, fairer game ans less people would insta-quit

I don't know about that , I have to chalk that up to the fact that no one that works on the game actually plays the game enough to know what's going on .

In this forum , people campaign to have roles , weapons and items changed because they don't like to die the way that they do , I don't see that as being imbalanced and a lot of what goes on is valid and not douchebaggery so to say , everybody doesn't approach the game the same and I'm glad for that .

People use their brains in their approach and just don't play predictably , now is most of the outcomes or actions on certain maps predictable .?. I would say yes , just like @OP mentioned .. I can add the underground map to that list as well and how people just camp the sides with explosive weapons but they can't predict what's going to happen when they design a map but if someone from their staff played more , then they would know the habits of players so that maps and the game it's self , couldn't become so predictable .

I don't mind campers , people need to get off of that crap and if they see or suspect someone of doing that , then address that in-game , take that away from them so that they have to change up their tactics , don't come to the forum to complain about something that you yourself was just too lazy to do something about .

You have means to eliminate the campers so use them .

There is no excuse .

I play solo for the most part and I get in a DS with my heavy suit and clean rooftops or hop in a ADS and cover the pipes looking for snipers to eliminate , I take threats to my TEAM seriously and for the most part , most are just too lazy to change their plans and tactics to handle threats .

Edit : If CCP had someone who played the game , it would be in a much better situation and they would know what to look for and not anyone on the CPM , most have biases and agenda's so that wouldn't be smart at all .

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Clobnarr Art.of.Death 74	Posted - 2015.09.27 09:41:00 - [1] - Quote For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why?
ZED Regent RabbitGang 13 COILS 456	Posted - 2015.09.27 09:52:00 - [2] - Quote The map with that building with different floors, you always start in the mcc with that map.... I hate it... eh....eh.... french flies.... eh...eh eh....
VikingKong iBUN Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 548	Posted - 2015.09.27 09:57:00 - [3] - Quote Gallente Lag Facility. Just remove it. I would like a Gallente SMG. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 09:57:00 - [4] - Quote Clobnarr wrote: For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why? +1 to this map. It's garbage on every single gamemode ! Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
VikingKong iBUN Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 548	Posted - 2015.09.27 09:59:00 - [5] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Clobnarr wrote: For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why? +1 to this map. It's garbage on every single gamemode ! I like it in ambush. And I've had a lot of fun flying derpships on that map... but yeh generally it's pretty bad. I would like a Gallente SMG. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 10:00:00 - [6] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: Gallente Lag Facility. Just remove it. I agree that it should get removed because of bad performances, but the map itself is greatly designed. If it wasn't for the fps drop, I'd consider it as one of the best Dust's map. Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
4lbert Wesker Standby Retaliation 513	Posted - 2015.09.27 10:17:00 - [7] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: Gallente Lag Facility. Just remove it. I agree that it should get removed because of bad performances, but the map itself is greatly designed. If it wasn't for the fps drop, I'd consider it as one of the best Dust's map. Skirmish type of Gallente Facility have lag but I have no problem with domination type of that map. WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 10:22:00 - [8] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: Gallente Lag Facility. Just remove it. I agree that it should get removed because of bad performances, but the map itself is greatly designed. If it wasn't for the fps drop, I'd consider it as one of the best Dust's map. Skirmish type of Gallente Facility have lag but I have no problem with domination type of that map. I have problems every single time I play on this map :/ Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER ! - Sequal Rise
Victor889 warravens Imperium Eden 309	Posted - 2015.09.27 10:47:00 - [9] - Quote I'm surprised CCP don't just stop you doing the douchebag manoeuvres entirely, if no-one was able to camp above the objective/pipes they'd be forced to engage on the ground where thy should be. If all the douchebaggery was removed from every map this would be a much better, fairer game ans less people would insta-quit
Ablerober Haircuts that kill 356	Posted - 2015.09.27 11:29:00 - [10] - Quote Clobnarr wrote: For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why? Don't know the name but it has an elevated objective which can be covered by redline snipers in the opposing team. Once its hacked, mass drivers / flaylock roof top campers have an open season on anyone trying to claim back the objective. There is only one domination map I enjoy playing but hardly ever see it.

shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4	Posted - 2015.09.27 11:36:00 - [11] - Quote Just add more ladders to go everywhere. Regressed to blueberry level.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 2	Posted - 2015.09.27 12:01:00 - [12] - Quote The one where objective is in the hangar. Redlines are like 100m from the point and it's all about spam. Modern society is lacking in empathy
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.27 14:19:00 - [13] - Quote Victor889 wrote: I'm surprised CCP don't just stop you doing the douchebag manoeuvres entirely, if no-one was able to camp above the objective/pipes they'd be forced to engage on the ground where thy should be. If all the douchebaggery was removed from every map this would be a much better, fairer game ans less people would insta-quit I don't know about that , I have to chalk that up to the fact that no one that works on the game actually plays the game enough to know what's going on . In this forum , people campaign to have roles , weapons and items changed because they don't like to die the way that they do , I don't see that as being imbalanced and a lot of what goes on is valid and not douchebaggery so to say , everybody doesn't approach the game the same and I'm glad for that . People use their brains in their approach and just don't play predictably , now is most of the outcomes or actions on certain maps predictable .?. I would say yes , just like @OP mentioned .. I can add the underground map to that list as well and how people just camp the sides with explosive weapons but they can't predict what's going to happen when they design a map but if someone from their staff played more , then they would know the habits of players so that maps and the game it's self , couldn't become so predictable . I don't mind campers , people need to get off of that crap and if they see or suspect someone of doing that , then address that in-game , take that away from them so that they have to change up their tactics , don't come to the forum to complain about something that you yourself was just too lazy to do something about . You have means to eliminate the campers so use them . There is no excuse . I play solo for the most part and I get in a DS with my heavy suit and clean rooftops or hop in a ADS and cover the pipes looking for snipers to eliminate , I take threats to my TEAM seriously and for the most part , most are just too lazy to change their plans and tactics to handle threats . Edit : If CCP had someone who played the game , it would be in a much better situation and they would know what to look for and not anyone on the CPM , most have biases and agenda's so that wouldn't be smart at all . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
IceShifter Childhaspawn Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 777	Posted - 2015.09.27 16:05:00 - [14] - Quote Idk if its a map or a socket issue but the map where the reds can camp the groundspawn. That just irks me. It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 16:06:00 - [15] - Quote Clobnarr wrote: For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why? i agree and whats worse is that map actually used to be fun before ccp moved the mccs over the pipes now its a camping meat grinder i dont play dom specifically because of that map move the mccs back keeps the damn ladders and change the socket across the way back to the old buildings add ladders to the two tall building that would now be adjacent to the pipes structure.. dust 514 ruined console gaming for me pc master race PORT IT CCP
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion No Context 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 16:24:00 - [16] - Quote Clobnarr wrote: For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why? Yes I hate this map. No one uses the rest of the map do to the advantage of the pipes and it's so easy for snipers and crap. I lost a rat and a friend a balac because of this stupid map with stupid crap. Stupid snipers. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 16:54:00 - [17] - Quote Fracture road! Lol! I hate that map as a ground troop, but it's awesome as a vehicle pilot! In skirmish it's... ok, but often players leave because the points are too spread out?! A map that size needs five points, and the new sockets are annoying because guys just fly to the top and camp the point that's literally 5 feet under them?! The other socket is a bunker that's a death trap?! The old sockets that could be attacked multiple ways need to be put in there, and on dom..... Just scratch it from dom altogether! "Anybody order chaos?"
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 236	Posted - 2015.09.27 17:46:00 - [18] - Quote Clobnarr wrote: For me it's the mcc over the pipes map. I'm not not even remotely ashamed to say I leave it instantly regardless of the match up b/c it produces some of the most garbage game play/ camping. Honestly, I wish they kept the ladders and moved everything back to where it used to be. What's your vote for the worst map and why? I too hate this map. It looks like so much fun due to its size and layout, but that single point and the pipe camping just ruin it. When its used in different modes and the objective is not there I enjoy the map. So its seems to be the single objective version that sucks, not the map itself. The Lag Factory is actually a great map if it did not lag. So, I would hate to see it removed. I would love to see it fixed, however.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.09.27 17:56:00 - [19] - Quote Any map with an objective. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 236	Posted - 2015.09.27 18:05:00 - [20] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Victor889 wrote: I'm surprised CCP don't just stop you doing the douchebag manoeuvres entirely, if no-one was able to camp above the objective/pipes they'd be forced to engage on the ground where thy should be. If all the douchebaggery was removed from every map this would be a much better, fairer game ans less people would insta-quit I don't know about that , I have to chalk that up to the fact that no one that works on the game actually plays the game enough to know what's going on . In this forum , people campaign to have roles , weapons and items changed because they don't like to die the way that they do , I don't see that as being imbalanced and a lot of what goes on is valid and not douchebaggery so to say , everybody doesn't approach the game the same and I'm glad for that . People use their brains in their approach and just don't play predictably , now is most of the outcomes or actions on certain maps predictable .?. I would say yes , just like @OP mentioned .. I can add the underground map to that list as well and how people just camp the sides with explosive weapons but they can't predict what's going to happen when they design a map but if someone from their staff played more , then they would know the habits of players so that maps and the game it's self , couldn't become so predictable . I don't mind campers , people need to get off of that crap and if they see or suspect someone of doing that , then address that in-game , take that away from them so that they have to change up their tactics , don't come to the forum to complain about something that you yourself was just too lazy to do something about . You have means to eliminate the campers so use them . There is no excuse . I play solo for the most part and I get in a DS with my heavy suit and clean rooftops or hop in a ADS and cover the pipes looking for snipers to eliminate , I take threats to my TEAM seriously and for the most part , most are just too lazy to change their plans and tactics to handle threats . Edit : If CCP had someone who played the game , it would be in a much better situation and they would know what to look for and not anyone on the CPM , most have biases and agenda's so that wouldn't be smart at all . You seem to suffer from too much SP to understand the real problem issue. MOST PLAYERS, ESPECAILLY NEW ONES DO NOT HAVE THE OPTIONS YOU HAVE. I agree for some of us we have the means to stop most D baggery. The guy with 30 mill or less SPs is at a sever disadvantage. That is why they come here to complain. They really can't do anything about the situation. Try counter sniping with no skill in it, same for AV against a decent ADS pilot. SP equals options to counter certain lines of play. Newer players and focused players get frustrated when their one or two roles can not shoe horn into a solution to a particular play style. They will find the game easier as they acquire SP, but saying they are lazy is really just incorrect and myopic. For my first few months my one assault suit was useless against pretty much anything that did not run at me on the ground. So it was frustrating to play against some play styles. They feel the same way. The other issue is that the guys who usually do the d baggery are contributing very little to the team. They are usually no threat to an objective. Not seen many MD spammers/Jumpers/Snipers/RE suiciders/ADS pilots actually hack a point. So, again for new players it is even frustrating to have them on your side. Most people in this game are not lazy, they just lack the options to deal with the situation so we hear about it here. There are legitimate bugs and exploits like the One the THIRD ROCK campers were exploiting a couple weeks ago, and the fact that Myos stack improperly. Those deserve to be fixed and complained about. A guy sniping from the redline sucks for both teams, but in the end as those guys complaining about it skill into a sniper rifle or scout they fade away and leave room for the next new guy to complain. They suddenly stop be lazy as you put it, because now they can actually do something about the situation.

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 9	Posted - 2015.09.27 19:18:00 - [21] - Quote Train map. I can always scan 2 objectives with one snap. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Moe Lester III 1nner.Heaven 126	Posted - 2015.09.27 21:26:00 - [22] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: VikingKong iBUN wrote: Gallente Lag Facility. Just remove it. I agree that it should get removed because of bad performances, but the map itself is greatly designed. If it wasn't for the fps drop, I'd consider it as one of the best Dust's map. Skirmish type of Gallente Facility have lag but I have no problem with domination type of that map. Yes. One of the best dom maps. The worst map is any map that objectives are snipeable Redrum rectum
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 247	Posted - 2015.09.27 21:44:00 - [23] - Quote For me? Any Dom/Idiotbush/Acq map. Mostly because I find Skirmish to be the pinnacle of DUST's gameplay. As for Skirmish maps? Well... -3 point train map is just horrible. It could have been okay if not for the point in the train bay (which would make it an interesting twist on Skirmish, a 2-point map). -Gallente Research Facility; it lags almost every time I play. In contrast, I've almost never had lag on the Caldari Production Facility large socket. That said, the GRF is well-designed, just poorly optimized. CCPplsfixkthnxbyeamidoinitright -Ashlands can be really bad. Two evenly matched teams? It's awesome. Stomp? Not so much. -Manus Peak. For two reasons, the above issue with Ashlands, and the fact that CCP took away 5-point Skirm on Manus Peak. I remember playing 5-point Skirm once on Manus Peak, and I wish to relive such a glorious era as that was possible in. Pretty much all the others are great, IMO, though I admit preference for large 4/5 point Skirmish maps above all other options. A lot of the 4/5 point maps would be better if we had more players on the map, but IMO they're pretty good as-is. Buff Logis \| Nerf Scouts
Dewie Cheecham Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 820	Posted - 2015.09.27 21:48:00 - [24] - Quote All of them really. It's always the same few, and everybody knows all the little secrets by now. We really need a lot of new maps to rotate between, but CCP won't take the time to design a proper procedural map generator. It won't be easy, but it is REALLY needed.


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