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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
794
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:08:00 -
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We're now back to the "stack HP or get one-shotted" meta.
Seriously, who wanted grenades to be this powerful at such low investment?
Logiing for my squad is going to be a lot harder since most of my corpmates are Galmandos with 500 armor. I'll be repping them under fire and poof, they're dead because cooked grenades > guns. I'll have to stop using biotics and Ewar on my logi and take the boring path of only worrying about HP and regen.
Alright, done QQing. Thoughts?
[75.2m SP]
"I bet Sazu's great in an argument, since he makes so many points." -CeeJ Mantis
-Logibro / Minmando-
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang
9
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:11:00 -
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20XX - Adapt or Die.
Co-Founder of RabbitGang
"VAHZZ is Forum Jesus" - GJR
But Jesus lives down the street...
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
2
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:11:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:We're now back to the "stack HP or get one-shotted" meta.
Seriously, who wanted grenades to be this powerful at such low investment?
Logiing for my squad is going to be a lot harder since most of my corpmates are Galmandos with 500 armor. I'll be repping them under fire and poof, they're dead because cooked grenades > guns. I'll have to stop using biotics and Ewar on my logi and take the boring path of only worrying about HP and regen.
Alright, done QQing. Thoughts?
Grenades shouldn't be an issue unless you're staying in one place for a long time. If you're camping a spot on the map, you deserve to get naded.
AVERT YOUR EYES!
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
2
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:12:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:20XX - Respec or Die.
FTFY
AVERT YOUR EYES!
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang
9
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:13:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:VAHZZ wrote:20XX - Respec or Die. FTFY
Adapt, Respec, Die, QQ. Endless cycle.
Co-Founder of RabbitGang
"VAHZZ is Forum Jesus" - GJR
But Jesus lives down the street...
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
774
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:14:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:We're now back to the "stack HP or get one-shotted" meta.
Seriously, who wanted grenades to be this powerful at such low investment?
Logiing for my squad is going to be a lot harder since most of my corpmates are Galmandos with 500 armor. I'll be repping them under fire and poof, they're dead because cooked grenades > guns. I'll have to stop using biotics and Ewar on my logi and take the boring path of only worrying about HP and regen.
Alright, done QQing. Thoughts? Grenades shouldn't be an issue unless you're staying in one place for a long time. If you're camping a spot on the map, you deserve to get naded.
Packed nades + meat grinder map = gg
LongLiveQueenZarZar
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
794
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:18:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:
Grenades shouldn't be an issue unless you're staying in one place for a long time. If you're camping a spot on the map, you deserve to get naded.
Our signature style is to roll around as a 3 or 4 Commando unit in Skirmish and bulldoze while I keep everyone on their feet. We do die often, mostly to getting overwhelmed because we get overconfident or to Core nades.
Now in CQC environments, gungame is going to be almost meaningless because everyone has an 'I Win' ball of fun.
[75.2m SP]
"I bet Sazu's great in an argument, since he makes so many points." -CeeJ Mantis
-Logibro / Minmando-
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
13
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:38:00 -
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I'm now putting fused nade fits on all my scouts.
Just for popping other scouts when I see them XD
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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Vicious Minotaur
2
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:41:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:We're now back to the "stack HP or get one-shotted" meta.
Seriously, who wanted grenades to be this powerful at such low investment?
Logiing for my squad is going to be a lot harder since most of my corpmates are Galmandos with 500 armor. I'll be repping them under fire and poof, they're dead because cooked grenades > guns. I'll have to stop using biotics and Ewar on my logi and take the boring path of only worrying about HP and regen.
Alright, done QQing. Thoughts? Grenades shouldn't be an issue unless you're staying in one place for a long time. If you're camping a spot on the map, you deserve to get naded.
Wrong.
If you are like me, and are a mediocre player playing with fellow mediocre players and get matched up against a team of super pro-proto/officers spammers who cook grenades and land them right at your feet, Grenades will be an issue no matter what you are doing.
Hunkered in? Pro-player uses cooked grenade/nanohive combo. It's super effective!
Trying to get from A to B? Pro-player uses cooked grenade. It's super effective!
Just engaged Pro-player in glorious 1v1 and get the upper hand? Pro-player uses fallback/cooked grenade combo. It's super effective!
Defending a non-entrenched point? Pro-player uses cooked grenade/nanohive combo! It's super effective!
Yeah, you may say "but Minotaur, that's matchmaking/teambuilding/Cow's Mu not being functional! It's not the grenades fault!" You'd be right, but the game ain't any less borked and this change does nothing to help. I'll stay salty like Planters' Mr. Peanut, thanks.
I am a minotaur.
Beware my poop.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
2
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:43:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:We're now back to the "stack HP or get one-shotted" meta.
Seriously, who wanted grenades to be this powerful at such low investment?
Logiing for my squad is going to be a lot harder since most of my corpmates are Galmandos with 500 armor. I'll be repping them under fire and poof, they're dead because cooked grenades > guns. I'll have to stop using biotics and Ewar on my logi and take the boring path of only worrying about HP and regen.
Alright, done QQing. Thoughts? Grenades shouldn't be an issue unless you're staying in one place for a long time. If you're camping a spot on the map, you deserve to get naded. Wrong. If you are like me, and are a mediocre player playing with fellow mediocre players and get matched up against a team of super pro-proto/officers spammers who cook grenades and land them right at your feet, Grenades will be an issue no matter what you are doing. Hunkered in? Pro-player uses cooked grenade/nanohive combo. It's super effective! Trying to get from A to B? Pro-player uses cooked grenade. It's super effective! Just engaged Pro-player in glorious 1v1 and get the upper hand? Pro-player uses fallback/cooked grenade combo. It's super effective! Defending a non-entrenched point? Pro-player uses cooked grenade/nanohive combo! It's super effective! Yeah, you may say "but Minotaur, that's matchmaking/teambuilding/Cow's Mu not being functional! It's not the grenades fault!" You'd be right, but the game ain't any less borked and this change does nothing to help. I'll stay salty like Planters' Mr. Peanut, thanks.
Well it's a good thing I'm not a mediocre player like you!
AVERT YOUR EYES!
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
774
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:47:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm now putting fused nade fits on all my scouts.
Just for popping other scouts when I see them XD
KILL ALL SCOTMANS!!!!!!!!
LongLiveQueenZarZar
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
13
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:48:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm now putting fused nade fits on all my scouts.
Just for popping other scouts when I see them XD KILL ALL SCOTMANS!!!!!!!!
I've always loved the Thukker and Fused. With decent damage now, I'll run them far more often.
I call them panic nades for a reason.
AHHHH *BLAP* +50
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
774
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:52:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Regnier Feros wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm now putting fused nade fits on all my scouts.
Just for popping other scouts when I see them XD KILL ALL SCOTMANS!!!!!!!! I've always loved the Thukker and Fused. With decent damage now, I'll run them far more often. I call them panic nades for a reason. AHHHH *BLAP* +50
I need to get a district, I would love to 1v1 alot of players for the fun of it
LongLiveQueenZarZar
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Vicious Minotaur
2
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Posted - 2015.09.24 18:58:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:We're now back to the "stack HP or get one-shotted" meta.
Seriously, who wanted grenades to be this powerful at such low investment?
Logiing for my squad is going to be a lot harder since most of my corpmates are Galmandos with 500 armor. I'll be repping them under fire and poof, they're dead because cooked grenades > guns. I'll have to stop using biotics and Ewar on my logi and take the boring path of only worrying about HP and regen.
Alright, done QQing. Thoughts? Grenades shouldn't be an issue unless you're staying in one place for a long time. If you're camping a spot on the map, you deserve to get naded. Mediocre Planters Mr. Peanut impression. Well it's a good thing I'm not a mediocre player like you!
Indeed.
And it's a bad good thing that most of the playerbase seems to be like me.
Average DUST player: -3
Pro-DUST player: over 9000
Good to know that CCP has the right players interests at heart. Somebody has to feed the pro-players kills, after all.
I am a minotaur.
Beware my poop.
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
794
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Posted - 2015.09.24 19:00:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Well it's a good thing I'm not a mediocre player like you!
I've noticed quite often how the Dust playerbase often resembles U.S. politics and it's economy. "As long as I'm well off, I don't care if anyone else isn't." It's an inherent effect of a sandbox, I know, but we can't continue catering to the veteran meta players who make up a tiny portion of the population. Most of us are mediocre players such as myself who play video games as a hobby/stress reliever.
[75.2m SP]
"I bet Sazu's great in an argument, since he makes so many points." -CeeJ Mantis
-Logibro / Minmando-
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
13
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Posted - 2015.09.24 19:19:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Well it's a good thing I'm not a mediocre player like you! I've noticed quite often how the Dust playerbase often resembles U.S. politics and it's economy. "As long as I'm well off, I don't care if anyone else isn't." It's an inherent effect of a sandbox, I know, but we can't continue catering to the veteran meta players who make up a tiny portion of the population. Most of us are mediocre players such as myself who play video games as a hobby/stress reliever.
I play Dust as a hobby/stress reliever too.
I'm just better at it than most.
You don't have to devote your life to a game to be good at it, although time and experience certainly help.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces
Rise Of Legion.
782
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Posted - 2015.09.24 21:22:00 -
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Where exactly did it say all grenades will do 600 damage? What ratatai said was they would all do the same but he didn't give a number for it he just said the same damage. |
Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
794
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Posted - 2015.09.24 21:51:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Where exactly did it say all grenades will do 600 damage? What ratatai said was they would all do the same but he didn't give a number for it he just said the same damage.
It's in the Grenades tab in the spreadsheet.
The spreadsheet is linked in Rattati's new thread.
[75.2m SP]
"I bet Sazu's great in an argument, since he makes so many points." -CeeJ Mantis
-Logibro / Minmando-
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
774
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:07:00 -
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+1
LongLiveQueenZarZar
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:12:00 -
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95% of my fits will be one shotted by nades.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Kierkegaard Soren
Eridani Light Horse Battalion
931
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:41:00 -
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I think the nades buff is the element of the hotfix I like the least; Standardising the damage is a good idea, but why not follow the precedent made in the swarm launcher changes and drop the proto damage down a bit and then bring the other two tiers up to that new amount? As it stands, any grenade will OHK the vast majority of suits it is deployed against, and I don't think a splash weapon should be that potent across all tiers.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
9
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:41:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm now putting fused nade fits on all my scouts.
Just for popping other scouts when I see them XD KILL ALL SCOTMANS!!!!!!!!
Assuming you can find them. A damped Scotsman is scary. One that isn't... Well...
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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axis alpha
ScReWeD uP InC
1
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:55:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:VAHZZ wrote:20XX - Respec or Die. FTFY Adapt, Respec, Die, QQ. Endless cycle.
I feel bad for peep who have to respec every time there is a major hf
Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu.
Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo
Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
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