DUST Search - Krins LEX-71 Damage Modifier stacking penalty???

Death Shadow117 wrote:

deezy dabest wrote:

Death Shadow117 wrote:

deezy dabest wrote:

zzZaXxx wrote:

Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!!

It works just like in Eve.

All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty.

For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have:

Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56%

The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods.

you are overestimating ccp. First not all mods have stacking penalties. Secondly im pretty sure even though we've known about it for awhile damage mods of different tiers and different buying methods (aur/isk) don't get stacking penalties unless that has been fixed?

Stacking penalties have never been broken that I know of.

The only thing that was ever broken in relation to that is the UI not displaying proper info.

no a couple ppl ik have known that if you fit a cplx fldam mod and an enhanced they don't get stacking penalties from each other (this was known before the UI area came into the fitting screen) like I said unless ccp has fixed this it should still work I've tested it and so have others (but not lately)

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zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 780	Posted - 2015.09.24 00:46:00 - [1] - Quote Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!!
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.24 00:57:00 - [2] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!! It works just like in Eve. All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty. For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have: Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56% The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 780	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:07:00 - [3] - Quote But sidearm damage mods don't get penalized if you stack one with light weapon mods right? Because they affect different things. If so maybe the same thing applies to Krins.
Death Shadow117 Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion. 776	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:09:00 - [4] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!! It works just like in Eve. All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty. For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have: Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56% The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods. you are overestimating ccp. First not all mods have stacking penalties. Secondly im pretty sure even though we've known about it for awhile damage mods of different tiers and different buying methods (aur/isk) don't get stacking penalties unless that has been fixed?
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 780	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:18:00 - [5] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: deezy dabest wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!! It works just like in Eve. All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty. For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have: Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56% The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods. you are overestimating ccp. First not all mods have stacking penalties. Secondly im pretty sure even though we've known about it for awhile damage mods of different tiers and different buying methods (aur/isk) don't get stacking penalties unless that has been fixed? Hope you're right! I've been using it and I think I've noticed a difference. OMG I'm bout to be OP!! EDIT: But it was in a PC against guys running weak fits I think so I don't know.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:22:00 - [6] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: deezy dabest wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!! It works just like in Eve. All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty. For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have: Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56% The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods. you are overestimating ccp. First not all mods have stacking penalties. Secondly im pretty sure even though we've known about it for awhile damage mods of different tiers and different buying methods (aur/isk) don't get stacking penalties unless that has been fixed? Stacking penalties have never been broken that I know of. The only thing that was ever broken in relation to that is the UI not displaying proper info. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:23:00 - [7] - Quote It has a stacking penalty, it's just a UI bug. Same goes with all the other damage modifiers as well. AVERT YOUR EYES!
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 780	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:25:00 - [8] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: It has a stacking penalty, it's just a UI bug. Same goes with all the other damage modifiers as well. Yes but when stacked with what? And how do you know?
XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:30:00 - [9] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: It has a stacking penalty, it's just a UI bug. Same goes with all the other damage modifiers as well. Yes but when stacked with what? And how do you know? If you go into a factional and stack damage mods you can test it. The stacking penalty is applied when you use two or more of the same type of damage mod. For instance 3 light damage mods will have a stacking penalty on it, but 1 Heavy damage mod, 1 sidearm damage mod, and 1 light damage mod will have no stacking penalties applied to it. The Krin's is a special case, I can't know for sure but I'm pretty positive that the stacking penalty applies with any other type of damage mod considering it gives a boost to all types of damage. AVERT YOUR EYES!
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 780	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:41:00 - [10] - Quote Could go either way with that. I asked in a help ticket so maybe I'll get traction there.

XxBlazikenxX Ancient Exiles. 2	Posted - 2015.09.24 01:43:00 - [11] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Could go either way with that. I asked in a help ticket so maybe I'll get traction there. Good idea! Archduke will probably know! AVERT YOUR EYES!
Death Shadow117 Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion. 776	Posted - 2015.09.24 03:26:00 - [12] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Death Shadow117 wrote: deezy dabest wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!! It works just like in Eve. All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty. For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have: Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56% The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods. you are overestimating ccp. First not all mods have stacking penalties. Secondly im pretty sure even though we've known about it for awhile damage mods of different tiers and different buying methods (aur/isk) don't get stacking penalties unless that has been fixed? Stacking penalties have never been broken that I know of. The only thing that was ever broken in relation to that is the UI not displaying proper info. no a couple ppl ik have known that if you fit a cplx fldam mod and an enhanced they don't get stacking penalties from each other (this was known before the UI area came into the fitting screen) like I said unless ccp has fixed this it should still work I've tested it and so have others (but not lately)
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 790	Posted - 2015.09.25 20:13:00 - [13] - Quote Here are the results of my ticket :) My question: Does the Krins Damage Mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say it does. If so does it have a penalty only when stacked with other Krins or when stacked with any damage module? Also, if I have two light weapon damage mods and one sidearm damage mod, is the sidearm mod affected by a stacking penalty? Thanks! His answer: Hello, this is GM Archduke. Thank you for contacting the DUST 514 Customer Support Team. The KrinGÇÖs LEX -71 Damage Modifier should not have a stacking penalty with any damage modules. Also, stacking penalty should also apply to modules that are giving bonuses to the same attribute - in your example, two light damage mods would result in a slight stacking penalty on your light weapon damage bonus, but the sidearm damage mod should not be affected by this, and should give you the full bonus. Please note however, that there is a known display issue with the modified damage in the fitting window, and these numbers are unfortunately not displayed correctly at the moment. We're actively working on resolving this issue, and hope we can do so as soon as possible.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 197	Posted - 2015.09.25 20:44:00 - [14] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Death Shadow117 wrote: deezy dabest wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Does the Krins damage mod have a stacking penalty? The description doesn't say so. If it does have one, does it apply only when Krins are stacked together or also when Krins are stacked with light weapon damage mods? HELP!!! It works just like in Eve. All modules of the same function have a stacking penalty. For example if you stack 1 of each level damage mod after stacking penalties you will have: Individual bonuses: 7.00%, 4.35%, 1.71%, Total bonus: 13.56% The same thing will take place if you stack the Krin with other damage mods. you are overestimating ccp. First not all mods have stacking penalties. Secondly im pretty sure even though we've known about it for awhile damage mods of different tiers and different buying methods (aur/isk) don't get stacking penalties unless that has been fixed? Stacking penalties have never been broken that I know of. The only thing that was ever broken in relation to that is the UI not displaying proper info. no a couple ppl ik have known that if you fit a cplx fldam mod and an enhanced they don't get stacking penalties from each other (this was known before the UI area came into the fitting screen) like I said unless ccp has fixed this it should still work I've tested it and so have others (but not lately) You are incorrect and stating your position based on hearsay without any support or evidence (and it's something that can be demonstrated to be wrong) - all modules that affect the same statistic will have a stacking penalty, even if they are of different tiers. It takes bonuses from the higher modules first however. So if you fit a 7% and a 5%, the 5% will incur the penalty. http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties is an accurate calculator. If you fit a krins alongside a complex light weapon damage mod, the light weapon damage portion of the krins will be penalized, while the sidearm portion will not be. If you fit a krins alongside a sidearm dmg mod, the sidearm portion would incurr penalty while the light weapon portion would not. The UI in the fitting screen window does not display damage mods correctly and this is a known bug (that simply hasn't been fixed because it's incredibly low priority). Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion No Context 1	Posted - 2015.09.25 20:59:00 - [15] - Quote It does. If you stack 3- you can get almost 10% more damage including stack penalty. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 790	Posted - 2015.09.25 21:11:00 - [16] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: If you fit a krins alongside a complex light weapon damage mod, the light weapon damage portion of the krins will be penalized, while the sidearm portion will not be. If you fit a krins alongside a sidearm dmg mod, the sidearm portion would incurr penalty while the light weapon portion would not. See GM Archduke's response to my ticket above. He begs to differ.
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 197	Posted - 2015.09.25 21:14:00 - [17] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Malleus Malificorum wrote: If you fit a krins alongside a complex light weapon damage mod, the light weapon damage portion of the krins will be penalized, while the sidearm portion will not be. If you fit a krins alongside a sidearm dmg mod, the sidearm portion would incurr penalty while the light weapon portion would not. See GM Archduke's response to my ticket above. He begs to differ. Quote: Also, stacking penalty should also apply to modules that are giving bonuses to the same attribute This is something that can be tested. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion. I bring the light.
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 790	Posted - 2015.09.25 21:17:00 - [18] - Quote Do it and report back! We'd all really appreciate I'm sure! I really would.
zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 791	Posted - 2015.09.28 15:32:00 - [19] - Quote My follow up question: "Does the Krin's Mod get a penalty when stacked with other Krin's or does it have no stacking penalty at all?" GM Archduke's answer: "The KrinGÇÖs LEX -71 Damage Modifier should not have a stacking penalty with any damage modules, including itself. Items that do not have the stacking penalty mentioned in their description should not be affected by stacking penalties at all."
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 456	Posted - 2015.09.28 16:08:00 - [20] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: My follow up question: "Does the Krin's Mod get a penalty when stacked with other Krin's or does it have no stacking penalty at all?" GM Archduke's answer: "The KrinGÇÖs LEX -71 Damage Modifier should not have a stacking penalty with any damage modules, including itself. Items that do not have the stacking penalty mentioned in their description should not be affected by stacking penalties at all." so after the first 2 light damage mods, stack Krin's? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.

zzZaXxx XxAMBUSH FTWxX 791	Posted - 2015.09.28 16:15:00 - [21] - Quote That would work.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 1	Posted - 2015.09.28 17:28:00 - [22] - Quote if you had 6 high slots theoretically you could use 2 complex light damage mods 2 krin's damage mod 2 complex sidearm damage mods and suffer from no stacking penalty whatsoever. >>>YouTube!<<<
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.10.02 11:52:00 - [23] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: My follow up question: "Does the Krin's Mod get a penalty when stacked with other Krin's or does it have no stacking penalty at all?" GM Archduke's answer: "The KrinGÇÖs LEX -71 Damage Modifier should not have a stacking penalty with any damage modules, including itself. Items that do not have the stacking penalty mentioned in their description should not be affected by stacking penalties at all." CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 77	Posted - 2015.10.02 12:21:00 - [24] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: My follow up question: "Does the Krin's Mod get a penalty when stacked with other Krin's or does it have no stacking penalty at all?" GM Archduke's answer: "The KrinGÇÖs LEX -71 Damage Modifier should not have a stacking penalty with any damage modules, including itself. Items that do not have the stacking penalty mentioned in their description should not be affected by stacking penalties at all." so after the first 2 light damage mods, stack Krin's? Go go go. Edit: Just imagine stack Krin's while using krins fited in your Krin's suit omg bros... The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.10.02 17:57:00 - [25] - Quote Nice work zzZaXxx! This post has been liked by XxBlazikenxX
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 816	Posted - 2015.10.02 18:14:00 - [26] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: if you had 6 high slots theoretically you could use 2 complex light damage mods 2 krin's damage mod 2 complex sidearm damage mods and suffer from no stacking penalty whatsoever. You'd get the penalty on the second Light and Side Arm mods, so you'd have to use 4 Krin's, 1 Light and 1 Side Arm to have no penalty. Which is actually less effective. Purifier. First Class.


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