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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:50:00 -
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TL;DR at the bottom
Do not expect good grammar well constructed sentences or nice words in this thread. I'm about done with this BS and the reason is because Swarms, Rail Gun Turrets, and Forge Guns. They are OP against ADS and I can't even do anything about it. I'm about to quit this game because I decided to respec into ADS.
I'm going to tell you a story, a story of a high school sophmore whose over protective parents don't like the blood and violence in this game that there was while I was nova knifing. So I decided to take the high road and buy a respec into Assault Dropships, inspired by one of saxonmish's recent videos.
It was a giant mistake. First match literally 5 minutes after I made my first Assault Dropship. My fitting was: Python, 1 Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender, 1 Complex Shield Hardener, 1 Complex (Enhanced? I forgot) Light shield booster, a Complex PG mod and XT-1 Missile Launcher. Every one of my vehicle skills is MAXED out.
I have never ADS'ed before and have never skilled into a vehicle and I can tell you they are under powered.
I was in my first match ever in an ADS when as soon as I entered the first real enemy engagement I swooped in only to have a Swarmer, a pro forger, and a OFFICER FORGER immedietely instakill me. This was way in the beginning of the match when the enemy doesn't even know what to expect and they're already in full AV suits? Don't give me any of that "ADS's are OP, Swarms should be buffed" ****. I used a total of 10 Pythons that battle constantly trying to be useful to my team. You know what happened? I got a grand total of 0 kills, 10 deaths (pilot goes down with the ship logic) and 200 points from uplink team spawns. I thought to myself "Maybe I'm just having a bad match and coincedently got put in a battle with a guy who wanted to brandish an officer forge for fun." And so I searched for the next battle, hoping for something better. I was wrong.
Bridge map, go on the enemy side. Instablooped in a matter of seconds WITH my hardener on and my shield booster having been activated. You know why? 3 RAILGUN tanks, another GOD DAMN FORGER, and to top it off, a Caldari Assault CK.0 with (wait for it)...... a BEACON'S SWARM LAUNCHER.
I've lost a total of 20 mil in two matches. Let me emphasize that. TWO MATCHES. And I got 1 kill on a frontline suit in a blaster turret.
I need help ADSing, I'm almost destroyed my headphones and my PS3 controller and I'm about to get ready to rage quit this game.
Any suggestions? Tips? Git gud comments? Inevitable "Bucket of tears" trolls? I need a few. experienced ADS pilots to help me get good at this.
One last thing. AV needs to be nerfed to the ground. Swarms are way to effective, I got killed by a railgun tank while 500 meters above ground (on bridge map) and was blapped by a forge at that same distance (about.)
TL;DR: First time flying an ADS not good. AV OP. Nerf AV. Need help with piloting.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:53:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Any vehicle is going to feel UP at lower skills versus max skill AV.
I don't have "lower skills." My entire vehicle command tree is maxed, as well as my missile skill (and the various sub-branches) and the ADS skill as well as the Python skill is maxed as well.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:54:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Nut up or shut up.
Oh VAHZZ, will your BS ever end? I'm on my wits end and I will hide your posts.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:55:00 -
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Let's say I don't like where I'm at right now and am possibly looking at wanted an Aurum refund. Is that possible if I send a support ticket to Archduke?
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:57:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Git Gud Scub!
Also thanks for filling my bath tub, it was getting a bit low on tears. Time to take a nice relaxing bath.
XxBlazikenxX wrote:Git gud comments? Inevitable "Bucket of tears" trolls?
Well, at least I warned my self in advance.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:58:00 -
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I need actual frickin advice here people. (Johnny and VAHZZ I'm looking at you)
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 05:05:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:I need actual frickin advice here people. (Johnny and VAHZZ I'm looking at you) I have max vehicle skills i can build you some ADS and hire some gunners. Practice costs money, something which is nothing to me.
Sure, I'll hop on the Fury 514 chat tomorrow and give it a try!
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 05:10:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Any vehicle is going to feel UP at lower skills versus max skill AV. I don't have "lower skills." My entire vehicle command tree is maxed, as well as my missile skill (and the various sub-branches) and the ADS skill as well as the Python skill is maxed as well. Then practice maneuvering and fast in fast out in your redline. Past that i can't speak for swarms (I don't use them) but if you deliberately engage high risk maneuvers and do NOT fly in straight lines, the third forge shot is generally a hail mary shot rather than an accurate killshot. It requires practice. A well fit python or incubus has a three-IAFG shot lifespan. Talk to kaeru or darth to get better advice. I will direct you to a video collection of my average flights in a dropship...
Anywhere that I can contact them? I have Darth in the Z Platoon channel but what about Kaeru?
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
2
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Posted - 2015.09.23 13:43:00 -
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Jared Fogle wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:TL;DR at the bottom
Do not expect good grammar well constructed sentences or nice words in this thread. I'm about done with this BS and the reason is because Swarms, Rail Gun Turrets, and Forge Guns. They are OP against ADS and I can't even do anything about it. I'm about to quit this game because I decided to respec into ADS.
I'm going to tell you a story, a story of a high school sophmore whose over protective parents don't like the blood and violence in this game that there was while I was nova knifing. So I decided to take the high road and buy a respec into Assault Dropships, inspired by one of saxonmish's recent videos.
It was a giant mistake. First match literally 5 minutes after I made my first Assault Dropship. My fitting was: Python, 1 Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender, 1 Complex Shield Hardener, 1 Complex (Enhanced? I forgot) Light shield booster, a Complex PG mod and XT-1 Missile Launcher. Every one of my vehicle skills is MAXED out.
I have never ADS'ed before and have never skilled into a vehicle and I can tell you they are under powered.
I was in my first match ever in an ADS when as soon as I entered the first real enemy engagement I swooped in only to have a Swarmer, a pro forger, and a OFFICER FORGER immedietely instakill me. This was way in the beginning of the match when the enemy doesn't even know what to expect and they're already in full AV suits? Don't give me any of that "ADS's are OP, Swarms should be buffed" ****. I used a total of 10 Pythons that battle constantly trying to be useful to my team. You know what happened? I got a grand total of 0 kills, 10 deaths (pilot goes down with the ship logic) and 200 points from uplink team spawns. I thought to myself "Maybe I'm just having a bad match and coincedently got put in a battle with a guy who wanted to brandish an officer forge for fun." And so I searched for the next battle, hoping for something better. I was wrong.
Bridge map, go on the enemy side. Instablooped in a matter of seconds WITH my hardener on and my shield booster having been activated. You know why? 3 RAILGUN tanks, another GOD DAMN FORGER, and to top it off, a Caldari Assault CK.0 with (wait for it)...... a BEACON'S SWARM LAUNCHER.
I've lost a total of 20 mil in two matches. Let me emphasize that. TWO MATCHES. And I got 1 kill on a frontline suit in a blaster turret.
I need help ADSing, I'm almost destroyed my headphones and my PS3 controller and I'm about to get ready to rage quit this game.
Any suggestions? Tips? Git gud comments? Inevitable "Bucket of tears" trolls? I need a few. experienced ADS pilots to help me get good at this.
One last thing. AV needs to be nerfed to the ground. Swarms are way to effective, I got killed by a railgun tank while 500 meters above ground (on bridge map) and was blapped by a forge at that same distance (about.)
TL;DR: First time flying an ADS not good. AV OP. Nerf AV. Need help with piloting. Stfu whiny azz rican tranny dik sucking baby
You're gonna have to get in line.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
2
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Posted - 2015.09.23 14:50:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:What you invested in with SP you lack in experience. You cant just buy your way towads being a pilot.
Lesson 1: Never attack multiple AV. I have no idea why you thought taking on 2 forge guns and swarmer was a good strategy.
Lesson 2: Understand your surroundings. Check for glows indicating forgers are on thie field. Investagate high points. Understand where the redlines are and where you are relative to them. Be wary of any red supply depot. The same goes for installations.
Lesson 3: Evade, evade, evade. Never fly in a straight line, and always keep you speed up. Be ready to afterburn as soon as anything, and i do mean anything hits your ship.
Lesson 4: Listen carfeully. Swamrs hardly render, but half of the time you can hear a swarm launch. If you hear a launch, and you did not see the swamer just afterburn to the sky
Lesson 5: Pay Attention to enemy RDVs. Its always worth to flyover at a decent hieght and see what they dropped.
Lesson 6: Never engage without your hardner and afterburner ready to go. Stay in your readline roughly behind and above your MCC while they recharge.
Lesson 7: Know your enemy. You need to know what kind of AV is hitting you, whether its an Incubus, a Rail tank, A swarmer or a forge gun. Sounds obvious right? But there a massive difference in damage recieved from a kalkiotta forge and an Aldins. One can engage, the other you have to run.
Lesson 8: Kill equipment first!! The infantry you just killed will respaWn on the closest link in AV.
I wasn't aware of the AV initially because I just flew in.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.09.23 19:20:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:What a coincidence. I'm also a sophomore who's parents don't like violence. So I play in the morning while they are still awake.
Now, I agree the AV is op on ships, but ads aren't bad. You have to spend time with them. I am go 22/0 with a python. You just need to know how to fit and use them.
My personal fav Python fit-
Pro missile
Adv booster
Adv hardener
Adv light extender
Adv ammo middle ammo expansion
When attacking and no signs of av, don't use your hardener, just take damage and if low on shields, boost. If there is AV, hit hardeners and make the av-ers your prime target. Don't let them take you out. Once low on shield, hit hardener.
And most importantly- DONT BE AFRAID TO BACK OUT.
Not good with ADS's but if I have missile ammo expansion at V (which I do) wouldn't it be better to trade the ammo expansion module for a better light extender/hardener?
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
Ushra'Khan
2
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Posted - 2015.09.23 23:23:00 -
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Well I guess this is it, XxBlazikenxX is officially in the biomass que. Unless GM Archduke refunds my skill reset I'm gone for good because I can't last 5 seconds in a match without an entire team of AV on my tail.
It doesn't matter where I go, I run away and as soon as I think I'm safe there's another AV waiting for me.
All my isk and gear is already given away. Looks like I'll be in Doomheim in 10 hours...
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