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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.09.20 18:50:00 -
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Feel free to add me, I just took an agimus MD to the map/socket where there's an underground domination point with only two entrances: the sunken road, and a one-way drop
everything died
In my defense I killed myself at least 3 times with splash... oh, that doesn't help my case |
Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.20 19:12:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:Good good, let the butthurt flow through you. If you're actually mad enough to post in here "QQ SCRUBZ L2 counter gg" it seems I've struck a nerve.
And if you want a taste of your own medicine, start new accounts and play pubs. Let me know how it goes. Post screens or videos of you gun game gods going fresh loadouts against some the mentioned tactics. If there's no one who does it, kindly shut the hell up.
And you gotta earn your way on the list, attention whores. You haven't struck a nerve, you outed yourself as someone who won't even try and get better, instead you make lists of people who school you with easy stuff. And you do it because you can't accept that you limit yourself with your e-bushido, and you attempt to cloak your incompetence under the guise of protecting noobs. Your bad, not because of any lack of skill, but because you lose the match before it even starts because you aren't even playing dust, you are playing Dust with silly house rules.
Lol you are so rustled. Quit talking and play with me you tryhard. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.09.20 19:18:00 -
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This thread is getting fun.
Is it time for us to all start screaming scrub at each other and throwing things?
++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
63
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Posted - 2015.09.20 19:24:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:This thread is getting fun.
Is it time for us to all start screaming scrub at each other and throwing things?
Apparently that's all they got. I'm willing to fight with or against anyone at anytime. It's fun listening to all their anecdotal git gud QQ scrubs. These guys must love redline pub stomping and playing like tools. Because you know, they are just better than us. Smarter than us. Superior human beings because they can shut down teams with lesser gear while using cheap tactics. The God's of Dust have spoken apparently lmao. |
Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens Imperium Eden
305
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Posted - 2015.09.20 19:28:00 -
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Dust has always been a harsh game. In fact it used to be a lot worse back in the days when all we had to play was ambush. The old ambush in where you could bring in tanks... Let me tell you in the chaotic frenzy of an ambush match (with much smaller maps back then) a newbie starter fit had 0% chance against a good tank. A lot of the early maps were pretty much empty wasteland with a few rocks too, so you really had no where to hide. You used to also die in like half a second with a starter fit. Having something like a total of 300hp total. Now a lot of starter fits push 600hp in a combination of shields and armor.
There are good tactical choices you can make to help win a match, things that newer players with very little isk and SP have almost no chance of countering. It's unfortunate but true. The sad fact is though Dust has become a game in where to have fun, to keep your enemy happy and entertained your encouraged to not try and throw a match or two.
I'm not sure what exactly happened. I remember back in the day going 4/20 and being happy that in a starter fit I killed a proto player or two, costing them a quarter of a million isk while I lost next to nothing. I guess now people have to much money, proto fits are too cheap (especially with apex bpo) and you don't feel like you hurt them at all by killing them.
I think that's the main thing killing Dust these days compared to the old game. There was always a level of Have and Have not's, but the lowest militia fit could kill a proto player and make them feel the burn. A single death would completely ruin their isk efficiency for the whole battle if not more. Plus people even worse KD/R padders back then when any idiot could pick up a militia sniper riffle and go 10/0 due to the nearly unlimited range and lower armor/shield values.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
63
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Posted - 2015.09.20 19:41:00 -
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A lot of the evolution of Dust is lost to me because I only started playing about a month and a half ago. I wish I had been around so I have more understanding of how things have progressed.
Bottomline now is that the game isn't in a great state. There are things that admittedly should not exist the way they currently do. Not that they should be taken out, but definitely shouldn't be left as is.
I imagine if suddenly Legion or w/e it's gonna be was released we wouldn't have the ability to do a lot of the current "game winning" tactics that some players love to use. There's always gonna be stomps, but having a similar redline stomp fest happen to you every game just isn't fun.
The players who tell noobs to just stop playing if they aren't having fun are a serious detriment to any game. Instead, help them get better or point them in the right direction.
That offer stands here, anyone who wants to play with a good squad who will help you please add me. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
8
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Posted - 2015.09.20 19:51:00 -
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I nominate myself. I leave battles whenever I deem them lost causes.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang
8
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Posted - 2015.09.20 20:30:00 -
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You are all fantastic players, not one of you is a loser.
Co-Founder of RabbitGang
Semi-Kinda-Fully-Maybe-On Hiatus from forum, you shall be brought with darkness. May you peace
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
63
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Posted - 2015.09.20 23:12:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I nominate myself. I leave battles whenever I deem them lost causes.
If it's less than 10v16 and players continue to drop, I don't blame anyone. Cause that's just lame. |
DustPllayer
Eternal Beings
67
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Posted - 2015.09.21 01:27:00 -
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I nominate myself. I always leave battles... sometimes even before they begin. All day everyday.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.21 02:24:00 -
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Group of dudes I really dont want to name yet. But it was full officer squad in pubs... Lol
I am the Anti-FoTM
Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.21 04:18:00 -
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DustPllayer wrote:I nominate myself. I always leave battles... sometimes even before they begin. All day everyday.
Ironically you did leave one of my games at the start today lol. |
DustPllayer
Eternal Beings
67
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Posted - 2015.09.21 08:41:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:DustPllayer wrote:I nominate myself. I always leave battles... sometimes even before they begin. All day everyday. Ironically you did leave one of my games at the start today lol.
See told you. :)
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.21 09:09:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:DustPllayer wrote:I nominate myself. I always leave battles... sometimes even before they begin. All day everyday. Ironically you did leave one of my games at the start today lol. Check his name again ;)
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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DustPllayer
Eternal Beings
67
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Posted - 2015.09.21 11:25:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:DustPllayer wrote:I nominate myself. I always leave battles... sometimes even before they begin. All day everyday. Ironically you did leave one of my games at the start today lol. Check his name again ;)
Shhhhh.
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.09.21 11:28:00 -
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Haters gon hate
Because beer, that's why.
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QRT30
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.09.21 11:41:00 -
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Add all synchro japanese playing EU server at the weekend's morning European time
QRT30 - open beta vet with +110 mln SP
QRT300 - Amarr
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.09.21 11:49:00 -
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Add Bejo Pak Pak from Prima Gallicus. I've never seen this scrub playing something else than REs.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.09.21 12:59:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote: The players who tell noobs to just stop playing if they aren't having fun are a serious detriment to any game. Instead, help them get better or point them in the right direction.
That offer stands here, anyone who wants to play with a good squad who will help you please add me.
I'm not a noob but am an average (or worse) player. Every time I see jumpy suits talked about and ppl defending them, I hear that I should counter them. But it's like a secret or something, because I've never once seen someone actually state how to counter that crap.
I leave battles now when confronted by proto-jumpers - it irks me soo bad.
So you're here to help - tell me what the counter is? Coz right now it's the one thing that spoils my fun to the extent I quit battles.
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens Imperium Eden
306
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Posted - 2015.09.21 16:06:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote: The players who tell noobs to just stop playing if they aren't having fun are a serious detriment to any game. Instead, help them get better or point them in the right direction.
That offer stands here, anyone who wants to play with a good squad who will help you please add me.
I'm not a noob but am an average (or worse) player. Every time I see jumpy suits talked about and ppl defending them, I hear that I should counter them. But it's like a secret or something, because I've never once seen someone actually state how to counter that crap. I leave battles now when confronted by proto-jumpers - it irks me soo bad. So you're here to help - tell me what the counter is? Coz right now it's the one thing that spoils my fun to the extent I quit battles.
Well it can depend on the situation, fit etc. But if it's a jumpy scout/assault fit. The ones who jump real high and run fast they tend to have very little health. I find assault mass drivers work wonders since the explosion tends to go higher than they can jump, especially if you aim it as their landing. For pretty much the same reason assault scrambler riffles work well as those fits have very little health and usually have more shields than armor. Having a high RoF it makes connecting with some what wildly aimed shots easier. If your at anything but directly under them they die pretty easy.
A decently skilled heavy jumper is perhaps the hardest to kill given their higher HP and dmg varied dmg resistances. Obviously explosives like mass drivers won't work on them to well, the average heavy can take a full clip of splash dmg without dying, even with sacrificing some HP to jump mods. That said it's a pretty short burst fit without proper support. Honestly best thing to do with them is just stay away from supply depots and/or large concentrations of enemies. Sentinel based fits have no nano hives for ammo and Mass drivers empty their clips pretty quickly. They have to rely on their team to for resupply.
As for commando fits, meh. They tend to reload faster and have better dmg than a scout fit while still having a nano hive available. On the other hand they have far less slots to devote to jump mods, speed, stamina or additional armor and reps. I tend see most of them better off not jumping around but meh.
Of course this is against MD jumpers. Other jump fits take other reactions. Mostly though moving fast and erratically as possible usually helps. Against a lot of jumpers simply jumping yourself helps a ton. Even if you don't have any jump mods on that extra foot or two from the ground helps prevent the splash dmg from near misses that jump fits rely on so much from things like flay locks and PLC's.
Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician: "Everybody but me--CHARGE!"
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
951
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Posted - 2015.09.21 16:52:00 -
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DustPllayer wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote:DustPllayer wrote:I nominate myself. I always leave battles... sometimes even before they begin. All day everyday. Ironically you did leave one of my games at the start today lol. See told you. :) RADIANT WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT THIS?
Apologize on your main now!
MUSIC!
Sned T. Dead
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
951
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Posted - 2015.09.21 16:56:00 -
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oh, and this will probably be either moved to the locker room, or locked.
MUSIC!
Sned T. Dead
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Tri Stone
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.09.21 17:09:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:As bad as the myo fits are to me ( I hate what they have done to the game) the spawn camping, flank camping, and redline camping are what makes you a true scrub.
Sadly its an all day thing in Pubs. If you backed out Third Rock, Ecce Intio, Ancient Exiles, and Skill of God then pubs might be fun again. I know there are probably tons of OK players in all those corps, but the bottom line is those are the guys I SEE everyday camping spawns, flank camping, high ground camping, roof camping, and redline sniping late game. So, if you don't want your corp to look like a bunch of stat padder who never take a point then communicate that to your members. I guess the need to keep their K/D up to stay in corps drives the bad behavior. In any case, its detrimental to the health of the game. No one likes those tactics when they are done to them, but at least some of us have options to counter play against it. Those guys under 20 mill SP don't. The funny thing is these are also the same kids leaving if you squad kill them.
A great majority of T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K players actually avoid scrubby/useless tactics for example sniping and rooftop camping. I have yet to be in a squad where someone starts the game sniping and not pushing the objective with the rest of the squad. I can't speak for all our players but to generalize us with the people who NEED to rooftop camp is quite the insult. I have a 6.00 Weekly zero sniping, tanking, ads,rooftop camping and logi assistance.... so yes you are getting rekt by noobs on a roof but it either deal with them or run into me on the ground. I'm sure you would prefer the noobs on the roof |
Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
71
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:20:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote: The players who tell noobs to just stop playing if they aren't having fun are a serious detriment to any game. Instead, help them get better or point them in the right direction.
That offer stands here, anyone who wants to play with a good squad who will help you please add me.
I'm not a noob but am an average (or worse) player. Every time I see jumpy suits talked about and ppl defending them, I hear that I should counter them. But it's like a secret or something, because I've never once seen someone actually state how to counter that crap. I leave battles now when confronted by proto-jumpers - it irks me soo bad. So you're here to help - tell me what the counter is? Coz right now it's the one thing that spoils my fun to the extent I quit battles.
In my experience, the first encounter in a game will define how I play. If I encounter a jumpy proto MD, I hunt this player while staying near objectives and teammates. This person becomes priority number one and I slay while staying aware of their deaths and direction they'll come from spawning.
Tbh scouts with jump don't really irk me. They die so fast I don't see much of an advantage here, it's a pretty even trade off. Jump adds survivability and mobility while the scout has less armor etc....
If its just a jumpy MD player without officer or proto gear, I just give them a wide berth and gun em down. Make sure you're aware of where they will be coming from and try not to get caught up where this player can suddenly be amongst 3 of you, jumping spamming MD. That's where they want to be, catching you by surprise.
If you do get caught by surprise and there's more than one of you, sprint to some mid range cover and engage while he's jumping around your team. If you've got decent gun game and they aren't in proto they'll die. Just focus, land your shots and don't spray full auto. Concentrate on the points that are easiest to hit him at. Going up towards the apex of the jump is an opportune time and also on the descent towards where they'll land.
I find the best counter to most of these kits or strategies is AWARENESS. Be aware of their deaths, what direction they'll come from and expect them to show up in large fights somewhat unexpectedly. I've made it to where players will switch kits because I have zero tolerance in games and hunt them mercilessly.
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argel999
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
19
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:23:00 -
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I would add to this list those haters ADV-PROTO mailers that I kill using my APEX Nomad with BK-42 acr.
...SLAYER...
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argel999
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
19
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:30:00 -
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Tri Stone wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:As bad as the myo fits are to me ( I hate what they have done to the game) the spawn camping, flank camping, and redline camping are what makes you a true scrub.
Sadly its an all day thing in Pubs. If you backed out Third Rock, Ecce Intio, Ancient Exiles, and Skill of God then pubs might be fun again. I know there are probably tons of OK players in all those corps, but the bottom line is those are the guys I SEE everyday camping spawns, flank camping, high ground camping, roof camping, and redline sniping late game. So, if you don't want your corp to look like a bunch of stat padder who never take a point then communicate that to your members. I guess the need to keep their K/D up to stay in corps drives the bad behavior. In any case, its detrimental to the health of the game. No one likes those tactics when they are done to them, but at least some of us have options to counter play against it. Those guys under 20 mill SP don't. The funny thing is these are also the same kids leaving if you squad kill them. A great majority of T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K players actually avoid scrubby/useless tactics for example sniping and rooftop camping. I have yet to be in a squad where someone starts the game sniping and not pushing the objective with the rest of the squad. I can't speak for all our players but to generalize us with the people who NEED to rooftop camp is quite the insult. I have a 6.00 Weekly zero sniping, tanking, ads,rooftop camping and logi assistance.... so yes you are getting rekt by noobs on a roof but it either deal with them or run into me on the ground. I'm sure you would prefer the noobs on the roof
+1
You're totally right.
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The KTM Duke
M1 Locus Grenade
912
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:42:00 -
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Too bad also for this list
Selling voice bubbles 24/7 // H0riz0n Unlimit // Retired till EU server is full of non-EU players
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:47:00 -
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Can't bother to read the thread, but kinda hoping i'm on it.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Sned TheDead
Failures inc.
951
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Posted - 2015.09.21 19:00:00 -
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Tri Stone wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:As bad as the myo fits are to me ( I hate what they have done to the game) the spawn camping, flank camping, and redline camping are what makes you a true scrub.
Sadly its an all day thing in Pubs. If you backed out Third Rock, Ecce Intio, Ancient Exiles, and Skill of God then pubs might be fun again. I know there are probably tons of OK players in all those corps, but the bottom line is those are the guys I SEE everyday camping spawns, flank camping, high ground camping, roof camping, and redline sniping late game. So, if you don't want your corp to look like a bunch of stat padder who never take a point then communicate that to your members. I guess the need to keep their K/D up to stay in corps drives the bad behavior. In any case, its detrimental to the health of the game. No one likes those tactics when they are done to them, but at least some of us have options to counter play against it. Those guys under 20 mill SP don't. The funny thing is these are also the same kids leaving if you squad kill them. A great majority of T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K players actually avoid scrubby/useless tactics for example sniping and rooftop camping. I have yet to be in a squad where someone starts the game sniping and not pushing the objective with the rest of the squad. I can't speak for all our players but to generalize us with the people who NEED to rooftop camp is quite the insult. I have a 6.00 Weekly zero sniping, tanking, ads,rooftop camping and logi assistance.... so yes you are getting rekt by noobs on a roof but it either deal with them or run into me on the ground. I'm sure you would prefer the noobs on the roof Not disagreeing, but who the hell are you?
MUSIC!
Sned T. Dead
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.09.21 19:51:00 -
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Larkson Crazy Eye wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Daemonn Adima wrote: The players who tell noobs to just stop playing if they aren't having fun are a serious detriment to any game. Instead, help them get better or point them in the right direction.
That offer stands here, anyone who wants to play with a good squad who will help you please add me.
I'm not a noob but am an average (or worse) player. Every time I see jumpy suits talked about and ppl defending them, I hear that I should counter them. But it's like a secret or something, because I've never once seen someone actually state how to counter that crap. I leave battles now when confronted by proto-jumpers - it irks me soo bad. So you're here to help - tell me what the counter is? Coz right now it's the one thing that spoils my fun to the extent I quit battles. Well it can depend on the situation, fit etc. But if it's a jumpy scout/assault fit. The ones who jump real high and run fast they tend to have very little health. I find assault mass drivers work wonders since the explosion tends to go higher than they can jump, especially if you aim it as their landing. For pretty much the same reason assault scrambler riffles work well as those fits have very little health and usually have more shields than armor. Having a high RoF it makes connecting with some what wildly aimed shots easier. If your at anything but directly under them they die pretty easy. A decently skilled heavy jumper is perhaps the hardest to kill given their higher HP and dmg varied dmg resistances. Obviously explosives like mass drivers won't work on them to well, the average heavy can take a full clip of splash dmg without dying, even with sacrificing some HP to jump mods. That said it's a pretty short burst fit without proper support. Honestly best thing to do with them is just stay away from supply depots and/or large concentrations of enemies. Sentinel based fits have no nano hives for ammo and Mass drivers empty their clips pretty quickly. They have to rely on their team to for resupply. As for commando fits, meh. They tend to reload faster and have better dmg than a scout fit while still having a nano hive available. On the other hand they have far less slots to devote to jump mods, speed, stamina or additional armor and reps. I tend see most of them better off not jumping around but meh. Of course this is against MD jumpers. Other jump fits take other reactions. Mostly though moving fast and erratically as possible usually helps. Against a lot of jumpers simply jumping yourself helps a ton. Even if you don't have any jump mods on that extra foot or two from the ground helps prevent the splash dmg from near misses that jump fits rely on so much from things like flay locks and PLC's.
Thx for advice. MD does seem to work against them - took about three of them out this evening, but it forces me to run MD so a bit meh. They're easy enough if they're not too close, but it still irks me that it's a thing. The whole idea of being able to do that is just silly.
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Thx Daemonn Adima also for your response - just read that too. Prolly doesn't help that I solo a lot and am also a scout, so getting close to these guys is probably playing into their hands somewhat.
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