Big buff to Gal Assault? Didn't see that one coming.

Do you really think that today's GalAssault needs a buff to shield performance?
A simple Yes/No will suffice.

What baseline is that?

We are not trying to fix shields in this thread.

We are trying to establish a set of shield regen design principles which will make later balancing easier.

I made two proposals. One buffed Caldari sentinel regen a little, one results in nerfing the delay by 1 second. Both result in buffing commando regen. Neither proposal aims to bring balance to shield tanking.

For balancing I propose buffing energisers and rechargers.

Does anyone recall what the specific recovery/delay stats were of the early Uprising CalLogi? My thinking is that high hitpoint reserves combined with quick recovery could lead to trouble.

Its worth noting that the regen nerf is probably not the reason shield tanks arent used anymore, more likely the problem for shield tanks is that armor tanks are way, way better.

Well I'm not on the CPM, I can't accelerate the process, I'm just working with the intent of the thread, rather than against it. Something I feel will probably result i faster progress.

As for base suit stats, Caldari shield stats are already about 50% better than Gallente and Amarr. That's already a big difference.

I strongly feel balance should be brought about by looking at the modules you can fit rather than the base stats. The ability to fit your suit how you like is probably the one thing this game does particularly well.

So for example, shield energisers could be buffed to give you +100% shield regen at complex level. This would automatically benefit Caldari more, as they have more base regen. But it would also help Minmatar suits that choose to shield tank. It isn't just Caldari that are (supposedly) underpowered, it's shield tanking in general. You wouldn't choose to fit an energiser on a Gallente or Amarr suit, as you have too long a delay, and too poor a base regen rate, so such a buff wouldn't really help armour tankers.

But anyway, the exact numbers required to bring balance isn't the point of the thread.

It sounds like you are in agreement with shield regen being Caldari > Minmatar > Gallente/Amarr, that's good.
What about Scout > Sentinel >(or =) Assault = Logi = Commando ? At least as far as base stats go.
With modules recovery time should be Scout = Assault = Logi = Commando = Sentinel, but with scouts fitting no regen mods, and sentinels fitting more than the others.

Of course at the time shield tanks were the ones that were overpowered so the nerf seemed entirely appropriate, indeed if armor tanks didnt have this absurd rep/hardener synergy they might actually be much closer to balanced.

[quote=Doc DDD] or by fixing shield boosters or having second thoughts about MAKING ARMOR HARDNERS BETTER THAN SHIELD HARDENERS IN EVERY WAY.

Are there any plans to look into the disparity of equipment? Availability of triage hives and rep tool support is a real spoiler that takes away the one advantage shield suits (at least currently) have, primary tank repair speed.

Thats true, but looking at it from a practical perspective, I find it doubtful and I feel like if it did turn out that way it would make Cal suits pretty rediculously overpowered in a low teamwork environment (1v1 fights or pubs for example).

You can think of it this way:
If a Cal suits regen is so good it can compete with armor tank + repair tool then wouldnt 1 Cal suit vs. 1 armor tank alone just be a complete blowout? Im sure you could find a balance between factors somewhere but sounds unlikely. I'd much rather have some neat equipment shield users can exploit to achieve teamwork induced parity.

I have no idea what the hell you're talking about at this point.