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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.09.17 02:24:00 -
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I'm being forced away from playing the handy dandy I'm so snazzy amarr scout due to being scanned all the time.
And I'm saving sp to spec into the gal scout(I can get the adv one and maybe level four)
And so I come here today to ask for some fits for the gal scout. Here's my two amarr scout fits that I use in pubs and pc. Pub fit(I've made millions) Apex dragon scout vk.1 All stock modules except for a dual kincats and armour rep module.(single stock damp keeps my profile down,non gal logis can't scan me) Shotgun and stock sidearm/equipment (remotes and cloak) the flux nade attached.
PC fit. Scout ak.0 Complex kincats,complex reps,complex ferroscale(I don't run damps because you need 2 on the am or min scout to deal with gal logis,and I don't want to gimp my speed or recovery) Dual uplinks(I run speed uplink placement) Duvolle specialist shotgun(I'm a enforcer scout that attacks enemy home points and deploys links in safe spots that I clear out.) Assault scrambler pistol Flux. Dual advanced sheild extenders(for rushing through hot zones,I can pick up lots of things with my passives pretty well already )
And know I need gal scout fits.
Rules of thumb. No bolt pistols,breach scrambler pistols,or myofibs. No reactive plates(I don't extend my hp unless it's pc or sheilds) At least one complex kincat. Shotgun and remote explosive are good.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.09.17 02:28:00 -
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Scout gk.0 Highs: 2 Complex Shield Extenders Lows: 1 Complex Shield Regulator, 2 Complex Profile Dampeners, 1 Complex Kin Cat Primary Weapon: Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Secondary Weapon: Best submachine gun you can fit Grenade: Gotta have them core locus grenades Equipment: Best cloak you can fit, proto links/REs
AVERT YOUR EYES!
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.09.17 02:31:00 -
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With 4 CPX Dampeners and cloak, you can dodge the focused. To dodge most scans, just get to 20 dB. To dodge most Gallogi scans, get below 18 (I think it was).
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.09.17 02:32:00 -
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Tank that b*tch out and shotgun; have the best of both worlds. The lag with the cloak still allows you to shoot from cloak. The range of the shotgun is ridiculous for alpha damage.
Better yet, circumvent the design balance and just use a heavy suit with the shotgun and go all out scrub.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
769
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:01:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Scout gk.0 Highs: 2 Complex Shield Extenders Lows: 1 Complex Shield Regulator, 2 Complex Profile Dampeners, 1 Complex Kin Cat Primary Weapon: Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Secondary Weapon: Best submachine gun you can fit Grenade: Gotta have them core locus grenades Equipment: Best cloak you can fit, proto links/REs
I'll swap that other complex dampener for a repair or a kincat,I'll take adv links and basic remotes and a thukker contact nade. I'm pretty good with sheild fits. Usually by the time bullets are hitting my armour I'm already getting heck out of dodge. Submachine guns are for nubs so I'll bring a car 9 burst swagler pistol.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
769
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:02:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:With 4 CPX Dampeners and cloak, you can dodge the focused. To dodge most scans, just get to 20 dB. To dodge most Gallogi scans, get below 18 (I think it was).
Bro. 4 complex damps won't just hide me from the gal logi,it'll hide me from my.own team.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
769
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:03:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Tank that b*tch out and shotgun; have the best of both worlds. The lag with the cloak still allows you to shoot from cloak. The range of the shotgun is ridiculous for alpha damage.
Better yet, circumvent the design balance and just use a heavy suit with the shotgun and go all out scrub.
Someone drop you on your head when you were a fresh merc?
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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XxBlazikenxX
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:06:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Scout gk.0 Highs: 2 Complex Shield Extenders Lows: 1 Complex Shield Regulator, 2 Complex Profile Dampeners, 1 Complex Kin Cat Primary Weapon: Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Secondary Weapon: Best submachine gun you can fit Grenade: Gotta have them core locus grenades Equipment: Best cloak you can fit, proto links/REs I'll swap that other complex dampener for a repair or a kincat,I'll take adv links and basic remotes and a thukker contact nade. I'm pretty good with sheild fits. Usually by the time bullets are hitting my armour I'm already getting heck out of dodge. Submachine guns are for nubs so I'll bring a car 9 burst swagler pistol. I know, I was going to say Bolt Pistol but you said no Bolt Pistols :(
AVERT YOUR EYES!
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Bradric Banewolf
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:08:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Tank that b*tch out and shotgun; have the best of both worlds. The lag with the cloak still allows you to shoot from cloak. The range of the shotgun is ridiculous for alpha damage.
Better yet, circumvent the design balance and just use a heavy suit with the shotgun and go all out scrub.
Wait.... what?
"Anybody order chaos?"
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
769
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:22:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Scout gk.0 Highs: 2 Complex Shield Extenders Lows: 1 Complex Shield Regulator, 2 Complex Profile Dampeners, 1 Complex Kin Cat Primary Weapon: Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Secondary Weapon: Best submachine gun you can fit Grenade: Gotta have them core locus grenades Equipment: Best cloak you can fit, proto links/REs I'll swap that other complex dampener for a repair or a kincat,I'll take adv links and basic remotes and a thukker contact nade. I'm pretty good with sheild fits. Usually by the time bullets are hitting my armour I'm already getting heck out of dodge. Submachine guns are for nubs so I'll bring a car 9 burst swagler pistol. I know, I was going to say Bolt Pistol but you said no Bolt Pistols :(
I know. I suck with bolt pistols,scrambler/assault scram rifles,mass drivers and always **** up my scans. The only thing I know how to do is blast someone's face in with a shotgun.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:22:00 -
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I fit my AmScout like this:
2 Complex Precision Enhancers 3 Complex Ferroscales 1 Complex Armor Repairer
Adv Scanner and Viziam Drop Uplinks
Adv Shotgun No space for sidearm
The suit, scanner and shotgun are all Adv level atm. How much scan precision do you get at proto scout? Mine is currently 20dB with the 2 enhancers. I don't run damps nor kincats because I'd get scanned anyway and the suit is meant to tank, imo. I can survive most close quarters encounters because of 460 armor HP.
My goal with the suit is to use it to hunt other scouts, but I'm not sure if I should go proto on this one. Scouts with less than 20dB are just rare, and usually very weak.
I do however wanna start speccing on the Caldari scout again. The scan range bonus is nice and it can get as dampened as a GalScout without sacrificing much HP. The problem is that it won't see other scouts but it's deadly against assaults and heavies. I'm not really a fan of Gallente nor Minmatar so there's no chance I'm speccing into those, even if they're better...
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
769
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:29:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:I fit my AmScout like this: 2 Complex Precision Enhancers 3 Complex Ferroscales 1 Complex Armor Repairer Adv Scanner and Viziam Drop Uplinks Adv Shotgun No space for sidearm The suit, scanner and shotgun are all Adv level atm. How much scan precision do you get at proto scout? Mine is currently 20dB with the 2 enhancers. I don't run damps nor kincats because I'd get scanned anyway and the suit is meant to tank, imo. I can survive most close quarters encounters because of 460 armor HP. My goal with the suit is to use it to hunt other scouts, but I'm not sure if I should go proto on this one. Scouts with less than 20dB are just rare, and usually very weak. I do however wanna start speccing on the Caldari scout again. The scan range bonus is nice and it can get as dampened as a GalScout without sacrificing much HP. The problem is that it won't see other scouts but it's deadly against assaults and heavies. I'm not really a fan of Gallente nor Minmatar so there's no chance I'm speccing into those, even if they're better...
I dont have any points in suit precision but I believe the full bonusfor am scouts pulls it down to about 24 ish. With dual precision enhancers I believe you might get around 18db or lower. But my kincats are to get into the range where I can pick scouts up with passives. Tanking a scout is just nyah,not like you can really survive a core locus anyway.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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Bradric Banewolf
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:33:00 -
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To clear this nonsense up....
Gal logi scan limit is 15db.
Gal scout can only get down to 13db.
That's 3 complex Dampeners guys.... which is stupid?! At four the stack penalty kicks in, rightfully so, and you just should've put a kin cat in that 4th slot.
If you're wasting 3 slots, essentially becoming paper thin, to hide from a gal logi it's idiotic?! The only scanner that can find you below 18db is the duvolle focused scanner, but it's only for 5 secs (plus bonus 9 secs), and that's IF he even aims the right way with that narrow and short range on that particular scanner.
As a gal logi I'm only running the Creadron Flux and Creadron active scanners. On occasion I may run that Quantum for when Birdandy and his 12 logis wanna stack in the acid pits in PC, and get OB'd repeatedly smh?!
Some of you guys just need to read the stats, use protofitts.com, and do some field experiments.
As for the gal scout fit:
Scout Gk.0 2x Complex shield Extenders 2x Complex Kin Cats 1x Complex Cardiac Regulator 1x Complex Profile Dampener Six kin Combat Rifle Ishukone Nova Knives 1x Adv Cloak 1x Viziam Stable Link 1x C-7 flux
If your skills are maxed it will all fit, but you must actually be a scout... not a scrub scout depending on the shotgun and armor tank?!
For the "not so scout" scouts:
Scout Gk.0 1x Complex Shield Extender 1x Adv Shield Extender 1x Complex Reactive plate 1x Complex Profile Dampener 2x Complex Kin Cats Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Creadron Ion Pistol (my preference) Boundless Remote Explosive Viziam Stable Link Flux or Locus of your choice
The 1st one is great for assassinations, flanking, speed deploy, and link detail. None of that tanked scout bs?!
If the enemy spends money trying to hunt you with a gal logi with multiple focused scanners GOOD! You've effectively, by knifing his buddies and clearing links, made him narrow his scan radius to find you! Meaning your team mates get scanned less!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
769
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:38:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:To clear this nonsense up....
Gal logi scan limit is 15db.
Gal scout can only get down to 13db.
That's 3 complex Dampeners guys.... which is stupid?! At four the stack penalty kicks in, rightfully so, and you just should've put a kin cat in that 4th slot.
If you're wasting 3 slots, essentially becoming paper thin, to hide from a gal logi it's idiotic?! The only scanner that can find you below 18db is the duvolle focused scanner, but it's only for 5 secs (plus bonus 9 secs), and that's IF he even aims the right way with that narrow and short range on that particular scanner.
As a gal logi I'm only running the Creadron Flux and Creadron active scanners. On occasion I may run that Quantum for when Birdandy and his 12 logis wanna stack in the acid pits in PC, and get OB'd repeatedly smh?!
Some of you guys just need to read the stats, use protofitts.com, and do some field experiments.
As for the gal scout fit:
Scout Gk.0 2x Complex shield Extenders 2x Complex Kin Cats 1x Complex Cardiac Regulator 1x Complex Profile Dampener Six kin Combat Rifle Ishukone Nova Knives 1x Adv Cloak 1x Viziam Stable Link 1x C-7 flux
If your skills are maxed it will all fit, but you must actually be a scout... not a scrub scout depending on the shotgun and armor tank?!
For the "not so scout" scouts:
Scout Gk.0 1x Complex Shield Extender 1x Adv Shield Extender 1x Complex Reactive plate 1x Complex Profile Dampener 2x Complex Kin Cats Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Creadron Ion Pistol (my preference) Boundless Remote Explosive Viziam Stable Link Flux or Locus of your choice
The 1st one is great for assassinations, flanking, speed deploy, and link detail. None of that tanked scout bs?!
If the enemy spends money trying to hunt you with a gal logi with multiple focused scanners GOOD! You've effectively, by knifing his buddies and clearing links, made him narrow his scan radius to find you! Meaning your team mates get scanned less!
I dunno when people decided to suggest tanked scouts when I said no tanking unless it's sheild,like that assasin fit though.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
668
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:51:00 -
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It's really a matter of preference. I tried my AmScout with a kincat, a dampener, a ferro and a repairer and it just felt weak. It died too easily. So I changed the dampener for another ferro and kept the kincat. The faster sprint speed was only useful for getting to the objective first, and it wasn't very noticeable in the heat of combat. So i ditched the kincat and went back to 3 ferroscales. It's kinda of a sweetspot where your fast strafe is useful if you have enough amount of HP. I feel anything else lower than 300 armor (or shield) HP is paper thin and easily killed. |
Bradric Banewolf
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:53:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:To clear this nonsense up....
Gal logi scan limit is 15db.
Gal scout can only get down to 13db.
That's 3 complex Dampeners guys.... which is stupid?! At four the stack penalty kicks in, rightfully so, and you just should've put a kin cat in that 4th slot.
If you're wasting 3 slots, essentially becoming paper thin, to hide from a gal logi it's idiotic?! The only scanner that can find you below 18db is the duvolle focused scanner, but it's only for 5 secs (plus bonus 9 secs), and that's IF he even aims the right way with that narrow and short range on that particular scanner.
As a gal logi I'm only running the Creadron Flux and Creadron active scanners. On occasion I may run that Quantum for when Birdandy and his 12 logis wanna stack in the acid pits in PC, and get OB'd repeatedly smh?!
Some of you guys just need to read the stats, use protofitts.com, and do some field experiments.
As for the gal scout fit:
Scout Gk.0 2x Complex shield Extenders 2x Complex Kin Cats 1x Complex Cardiac Regulator 1x Complex Profile Dampener Six kin Combat Rifle Ishukone Nova Knives 1x Adv Cloak 1x Viziam Stable Link 1x C-7 flux
If your skills are maxed it will all fit, but you must actually be a scout... not a scrub scout depending on the shotgun and armor tank?!
For the "not so scout" scouts:
Scout Gk.0 1x Complex Shield Extender 1x Adv Shield Extender 1x Complex Reactive plate 1x Complex Profile Dampener 2x Complex Kin Cats Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Creadron Ion Pistol (my preference) Boundless Remote Explosive Viziam Stable Link Flux or Locus of your choice
The 1st one is great for assassinations, flanking, speed deploy, and link detail. None of that tanked scout bs?!
If the enemy spends money trying to hunt you with a gal logi with multiple focused scanners GOOD! You've effectively, by knifing his buddies and clearing links, made him narrow his scan radius to find you! Meaning your team mates get scanned less! I dunno when people decided to suggest tanked scouts when I said no tanking unless it's sheild,like that assasin fit though.
That's my "Marine Insertion" fitting! I start most matches with it, and either meet or beat most to the points. Shield and speed is OP so most use Cal scouts, but the gal has better Ewar and Speed!
Shield: 233 armor: 162 sprint: 10.01 profile: 20db
These are your strengths and limits!
Precision you can work with at base since the gal already has a bonus. With shield, damp, and speed most armor tanked suit's never know what hit them. Six kin and ishies is a alpha dmg nightmare combo! Shotguns have hit detection issues, but knives don't :)
Even though min scout have a knife bonus, in my experience they are too easy to kill, and the Ewar isn't there. If your skills are maxed those Ishukone Nova Knives kill just fine.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
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Posted - 2015.09.17 03:56:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote: Six kin and ishies is a alpha dmg nightmare combo! Shotguns have hit detection issues, but knives don't :)
I really wanna try this combo.
My main problem is that my gun-game is really bad. I played a bit with CR on my scout but most 1vs1 were me dying. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.09.17 04:02:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Tank that b*tch out and shotgun; have the best of both worlds. The lag with the cloak still allows you to shoot from cloak. The range of the shotgun is ridiculous for alpha damage.
Better yet, circumvent the design balance and just use a heavy suit with the shotgun and go all out scrub. Someone drop you on your head when you were a fresh merc?
No, but apparently all the players who run the above fits (read: nearly all) were dropped on there heads and ruining it for the rest.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Bradric Banewolf
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 04:15:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote: Six kin and ishies is a alpha dmg nightmare combo! Shotguns have hit detection issues, but knives don't :) I really wanna try this combo. My main problem is that my gun-game is really bad. I played a bit with CR on my scout but most 1vs1 were me dying.
In this fit you're goal is to be fast, dangerous, and keep them looking for you! It's not a 1v1 fit, but more of a "I've died 3 times and I haven't even seen him yet!", fit lol!
I'm mostly waiting for the backup behind the heavy hitters to hesitate or get tunnel vision. I.e. logies, snipers, commandos, Assault Ak.0's are the most common victims, etc. Guys who are focused down a sight, or trying to lock on. While they are dangerous and useful to the team, they're super vulnerable!
The best assaults and heavies won't last long with no logis or AV support. This puts you behind enemy lines, but also you're dropping links behind the enemy. Focus on support i.e. hacks, links, and critical intel. Kills come 2nd! Don't get killed trying to 1v1 a guy with 3 times the ehp?!
This fit only works really well when the whole 16 is fighting though. If half your team is in the redline this fit becomes the only target for 6-15 mercs to shoot at?!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 04:45:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Tank that b*tch out and shotgun; have the best of both worlds. The lag with the cloak still allows you to shoot from cloak. The range of the shotgun is ridiculous for alpha damage.
Better yet, circumvent the design balance and just use a heavy suit with the shotgun and go all out scrub. Someone drop you on your head when you were a fresh merc? No, but apparently all the players who run the above fits (read: nearly all) were dropped on there heads and ruining it for the rest.
It is indeed all preference, but the issue in your logic is predictability.
Everyone expects the flying Cal scout with shotgun highly dependent on bad hit detection amidst chaos?! You'll get a few, but they'll start to counter, especially if they're on comms!
Since hmg's, combat and rail rifles, and mass drivers are in large number on the field, shields are you're best protection as these weapons are armor based. Tanking armor on any scout right now will be causing you to sacrifice speed and dampening for nothing since the mass driver can kill you in two splash shots regardless to how tanked your scout is?!
Practice avoiding direct conflict by having your assault buddies engage first! The enemy will notice your activity alot less if he's being shot at. The problem with this community is most don't squad, everybody wants to get the kills(kd padding mentality), and everyone thinks battles are won/lossed on the back of 1v1 engagements lmao!
For you sir, to practice:
Scout A/1 series 2x Adv Shield Extender 2x Adv Kin Cats 1x Adv Range Amp 1x Adv Profile Dampener Your choice of assault Scr Armor based sidearm Flux grenade Drop Uplink Needle
Use this fit as a range support fit. The assault scrambler will give you effective striking range, the damp mod will make you less of a target, the range mod will work well with your precisIon bonus to give you a target rich environment for not only you, but your squad who benefits from your Ewar!
You have links not far from and objective, and you're providing valuable intel! You can support pushes with long range fire, and pick up down friendlies repeatedly!
You don't hack, you don't frontal assault, and you DON'T 1v1!
You flank, runaway, and blitz friendlies with valuable intel! You pick off the wounded, and make sure they are lit up with no shields! Also try it with a scanner if you're dying too much trying to pick up "less tactical" friendlies who keep getting killed hopelessly.... they need EXTRA intel lol!
Your fast, damped, and lethal, with support equipment and intel!
Not every scout needs a d*mn shotgun?!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Bradric Banewolf
Standby Retaliation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 05:01:00 -
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In the words of my lil homie Jesus Chrysler.... "you're doing it wrong"....
I could give effective high and low cost fits out all night, but the key in any fit is "team"!
Alot of guys, including me, don't run tanks and dropships anymore because of high cost, and frankly.... minmando is OP!
However, a four man vehicle squad can ride around killing everything in vehicles all day if they do it right.
Since the four man squads started everyone has been running solo thinking four is useless.... no.... 1 is useless lol!
Build your fits to help the team win battles, and you'll have better payouts and overall battle results.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Leovarian L Lavitz
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.17 05:27:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Tank that b*tch out and shotgun; have the best of both worlds. The lag with the cloak still allows you to shoot from cloak. The range of the shotgun is ridiculous for alpha damage.
Better yet, circumvent the design balance and just use a heavy suit with the shotgun and go all out scrub. I got ten kills in a row against Chicago Cubs forever by doing that xD
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el OPERATOR
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.17 07:45:00 -
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Proto GalScout frames are available with the Command skill still only at 3, btw, in the LP store also. I don't believe it bonuses the same, but the fit/fitting stats are identical iirc.
Open-Beta Vet.
CAPCRO Nomad.
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