DUST Search - Remove Active scanners or give them a drawback

Press Attache wrote:

Rinzler XVII wrote:

Press Attache wrote:

Rinzler XVII wrote:

Press Attache wrote:

To the first point, yes if being scanned is such a deal breaker to your fun, then you should be running scout. Especially if your current plan involves being undetected(shotgunflanking for example) .

To the second, if you don't see the benefit of having an enemy of your team not shooting at you, I don't know how to help you.

The person running scans is playing for the team, and you want to nerf his team helping because you don't want to pay the cost(lower eHP) of running a scout suit to avoid being scanned.

The easiest thing to do would be to learn to fight instead just flank, but that might be above your skill ceiling based on your posts.

You ever play metro on BF 3 or 4? All it took was one recon with a T-ugs and everyone showed up, no hiding, no recharging, no cooldown and they have their gun out and they can have other equipment as well. Certainly didn't break anything there, and with the much lower ttk it should have.

Embrace fighting while scanned or run a scout suit, you have a choice, you just don't like the options so you want the game changed to suit you, to which I say nope.

Good players don't need scanners they have awareness, you said it yourself earlier you use scanners so you don't get shot in the back because you have no awareness, turn volume up and you can hear footsteps and ppl decloaking

Your idea of battle seems to be 2 lines of ppl attacking front on with logi's behind repping

I'm saying remove scanners or prevent ppl shooting at all for the full duration of the scan making targets visible

In a gun game knowing where most of your targets are most of.the time is easy mode, focus should.be on making all Ewar modules better so scanners aren't needed,.want 30m of 20 precision? Fit a precision module.. Things like this would make scanners obsolete, provide more variety in fittings and.still allow ppl on all.suits to scan passively N at ranges dictated by the modules they fit... 1 person with 1 scanner should.not bring so many benefits for little risk (3 seconds of not firing is nothing compared.to lighting up most enemies.positions)

This would make dust Ewar more inline with eve

I said if the sound was better, but its not, and so scanners.

My idea of battles in dust is people choosing the right suit for the role they want to play. The only reason why you are permanent scanned is because you refuse to run a scout suit. Let the people who can shoot and fight go a do that while you flank uncanned if that is what you need to do.

Knowing where the enemy is doesn't make killing them any easier, you still need to actually fight them. Have you never been the bait for a scanner? Let them scan you, retreat around corner with RE trap and harvest dot chasers.

Given the angles of scans, it isn't impossible to get out of the angle for satisfying flanking action, unless you only play dom, in which case switch your game mode if you want a more open ended match experience.

You really seem like you want all the benefits of a medium frame without any drawbacks, which is kind of childish. For someone who seems so bent out of shape by scanners, why do you not run a scout suit?

You realise I have 70m sp right?

I have a Cal scout maxed as well as gal assault and Cal Sentinel, all you've done is make.assumptions of my roles, play style and ability on nothing but me saying your crutch is Op.

The whole benefit of DUST is that you can customise your fit to do what you want, ppl brick tank scouts, turn logi's into slayers, you seem to think if you pick a suit then that's your role which just isn't right, go look at dust trailers, in fact go.ask devs what dusts niches are and I guarantee 1 is customizable fits, that's why you can fit any light weapon/equipment/modules on your suit

Ewar should be viable for all classes and if that was done we don't need scanners, you keep ignoring this point because you have no counter to why Ewar shouldn't be made more important than.scanners, you could.make.an anti scout logi using highs for precision lows for range amplifiers which could give below 18db precision at 40/50m + plus no need to scan as it's passive you can just keep repping etc and keep a lookout for.scouts... Now do you see why it's a.much better way to do things? Fits could be truly customizable,unique and more in line with eve

It's clear you only have 1 suit because it never occurred to you I could have more than just an assault suit

I should mention I have all equipment maxed too

So you have the tools to not be scanned, you just don't use them.

Scrubs be scrubs.


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el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.09.15 15:15:00 - [1] - Quote Press Attache wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Press Attache wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Press Attache wrote: To the first point, yes if being scanned is such a deal breaker to your fun, then you should be running scout. Especially if your current plan involves being undetected(shotgunflanking for example) . To the second, if you don't see the benefit of having an enemy of your team not shooting at you, I don't know how to help you. The person running scans is playing for the team, and you want to nerf his team helping because you don't want to pay the cost(lower eHP) of running a scout suit to avoid being scanned. The easiest thing to do would be to learn to fight instead just flank, but that might be above your skill ceiling based on your posts. You ever play metro on BF 3 or 4? All it took was one recon with a T-ugs and everyone showed up, no hiding, no recharging, no cooldown and they have their gun out and they can have other equipment as well. Certainly didn't break anything there, and with the much lower ttk it should have. Embrace fighting while scanned or run a scout suit, you have a choice, you just don't like the options so you want the game changed to suit you, to which I say nope. Good players don't need scanners they have awareness, you said it yourself earlier you use scanners so you don't get shot in the back because you have no awareness, turn volume up and you can hear footsteps and ppl decloaking Your idea of battle seems to be 2 lines of ppl attacking front on with logi's behind repping I'm saying remove scanners or prevent ppl shooting at all for the full duration of the scan making targets visible In a gun game knowing where most of your targets are most of.the time is easy mode, focus should.be on making all Ewar modules better so scanners aren't needed,.want 30m of 20 precision? Fit a precision module.. Things like this would make scanners obsolete, provide more variety in fittings and.still allow ppl on all.suits to scan passively N at ranges dictated by the modules they fit... 1 person with 1 scanner should.not bring so many benefits for little risk (3 seconds of not firing is nothing compared.to lighting up most enemies.positions) This would make dust Ewar more inline with eve I said if the sound was better, but its not, and so scanners. My idea of battles in dust is people choosing the right suit for the role they want to play. The only reason why you are permanent scanned is because you refuse to run a scout suit. Let the people who can shoot and fight go a do that while you flank uncanned if that is what you need to do. Knowing where the enemy is doesn't make killing them any easier, you still need to actually fight them. Have you never been the bait for a scanner? Let them scan you, retreat around corner with RE trap and harvest dot chasers. Given the angles of scans, it isn't impossible to get out of the angle for satisfying flanking action, unless you only play dom, in which case switch your game mode if you want a more open ended match experience. You really seem like you want all the benefits of a medium frame without any drawbacks, which is kind of childish. For someone who seems so bent out of shape by scanners, why do you not run a scout suit? You realise I have 70m sp right? I have a Cal scout maxed as well as gal assault and Cal Sentinel, all you've done is make.assumptions of my roles, play style and ability on nothing but me saying your crutch is Op. The whole benefit of DUST is that you can customise your fit to do what you want, ppl brick tank scouts, turn logi's into slayers, you seem to think if you pick a suit then that's your role which just isn't right, go look at dust trailers, in fact go.ask devs what dusts niches are and I guarantee 1 is customizable fits, that's why you can fit any light weapon/equipment/modules on your suit Ewar should be viable for all classes and if that was done we don't need scanners, you keep ignoring this point because you have no counter to why Ewar shouldn't be made more important than.scanners, you could.make.an anti scout logi using highs for precision lows for range amplifiers which could give below 18db precision at 40/50m + plus no need to scan as it's passive you can just keep repping etc and keep a lookout for.scouts... Now do you see why it's a.much better way to do things? Fits could be truly customizable,unique and more in line with eve It's clear you only have 1 suit because it never occurred to you I could have more than just an assault suit I should mention I have all equipment maxed too So you have the tools to not be scanned, you just don't use them. Scrubs be scrubs. Well put. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR