DUST Search - Sniping issues

Trevak Shi wrote:

GM Unicorn wrote:

Are you guys able to find a pattern in this and please post it with your comments and cosiderations? I mean, "always when I'm hacking the objective C while wearing this fitting, using the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 controller" or similar?
The controller is important as much as the action performed. PS3 old SIXAXIS sometimes acts funny in some titles where the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 don't. You can find the model name written in blue on the USB plug side of the controller
how to spot it

I'll save this thread so I can keep it monitored. Now, get out of bed and wear your dropsuit!

I know recently (i.e., last night/early morning -- roughly 0030-0130 EST) had a moment where not only did the scope come in and out on my Duoshock 3 controller while sniping, but I had a gun fight in the EU Comms Skirmish (24 player) where in the middle of a gun fight on A, my HMG fired, stopped, fired, stopped, fired, stopped and then I died all while I was feverishly holding onto the R1 button trying to cut this little assault man down with it. Yet these have not been the only issues in respects to the button interactions of the controller producing very unexpected results (i.e., sprinting and having the overhead map or the player list come up, knifing someone and having my character reload their weapon, and throwing a grenade and having the pause menu (start button related actions) come up. These have happened a various places across several maps at various times and server loads. I have switched out controllers, and did notice that one of my older ones was a little more prone to it than others, yet I have had this happen on a controller that was just purchased 1 week ago.

Does this fall in with the issues of the program computer and the servers not communicating well with each other? Or is this a bad program line that is interfering with the appropriate information being related to the servers?

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[Veteran_Rhente Bhauk] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 14:39:00 - [1] - Quote I recently started messing around with the sniper rifles and bad stuff has started happening. When I'm scoped in it starts getting all glitchy. It goes in and out of zoom like 20 times in a second even though I'm holding L1 down. And also with the charge rifle its shooting prematurely without me releasing R1. If this is happening to anyone else please post i hope this gets fixed eventually.
[Veteran_GM Unicorn] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 14:50:00 - [2] - Quote Rhente Bhauk wrote: I recently started messing around with the sniper rifles and bad stuff has started happening. When I'm scoped in it starts getting all glitchy. It goes in and out of zoom like 20 times in a second even though I'm holding L1 down. And also with the charge rifle its shooting prematurely without me releasing R1. If this is happening to anyone else please post i hope this gets fixed eventually. Are you 100% sure that your controller is ok? I don't want to sound cheeky, but sounds like a contact issue. Please try the controller with another game that share the same buttons behavior and see if you experience a similar issue. If not, drop us a line at [email protected] . Thanks!
[Veteran_Dostya Vitja] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 15:58:00 - [3] - Quote What is GM?
[Veteran_knight dt] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 16:03:00 - [4] - Quote Game Master http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster
[Veteran_Dewie Cheecham] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 18:49:00 - [5] - Quote GM Unicorn wrote: Rhente Bhauk wrote: I recently started messing around with the sniper rifles and bad stuff has started happening. When I'm scoped in it starts getting all glitchy. It goes in and out of zoom like 20 times in a second even though I'm holding L1 down. And also with the charge rifle its shooting prematurely without me releasing R1. If this is happening to anyone else please post i hope this gets fixed eventually. Are you 100% sure that your controller is ok? I don't want to sound cheeky, but sounds like a contact issue. Please try the controller with another game that share the same buttons behavior and see if you experience a similar issue. If not, drop us a line at [email protected] . Thanks! I'm seeing this as well at times. Not the premature discharges (I leave those to the highly unstable remote explosives :P) but the scope flashing in and out, sadly this means the aim is all over the place for a few seconds afterwards. A tfirst I though it were the internet connection being laggy, but I still see it with my new connection (gone from an avg. 200 ms to < 40 ms lag) though no where nearly as often.
[Veteran_sendeth] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 20:26:00 - [6] - Quote Dostya Vitja wrote: What is GM? omg
[Veteran_Markus] 0	Posted - 2012.06.16 22:32:00 - [7] - Quote ive been getting the premature fire from the charge rifle as well. sounding more and more like a bug!!
[Veteran_Nova Knife] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 00:11:00 - [8] - Quote Are you using an official dualshock controller or a 3rd party one? Some people have complained that 3rd party controllers are having issues with prolonged button/stick holding becoming less/nonresponsive.
[Veteran_Sin3 DeusNomine] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 00:20:00 - [9] - Quote I use the official PS3 control brand new I have noticed alot of problems related like this with the sniper rifle. Glad this thread came up I have had troubles where I can not scope in before I have had the same scope problem as him. And also I have had it where I not fire my gun. The one where my gun will not fire I notice if I hack a objective sometimes it corrects itself. I think I have had some of this happen with a assault rifle also.
[Veteran_Markus] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 00:29:00 - [10] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Are you using an official dualshock controller or a 3rd party one? Some people have complained that 3rd party controllers are having issues with prolonged button/stick holding becoming less/nonresponsive. Official controler here

[Veteran_Grideris] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 05:31:00 - [11] - Quote I have found instances where my Forge Gun will fire it's charged shot despite me not releasing the button. Guessing it's also something to do with lag because it seems to happen more often when I get lag spikes.
[Veteran_Buzzwords] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 06:42:00 - [12] - Quote a clanmate of mine OFTEN gets a similar issue when using a forge gun or hacking an objective. he can't charge the gun or complete the hack. it has happened to me as well but only very rarely.
[Veteran_GenocidalWaffles] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 07:57:00 - [13] - Quote The hacking issues happens to me a lot, especially on the large turrets when i crouch. It causes me to freak out and switch between standing and crouching (caught on environment probably). During this time I more often than not go out of hacking and have to start over again.
[Veteran_GM Unicorn] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 08:21:00 - [14] - Quote Are you guys able to find a pattern in this and please post it with your comments and cosiderations? I mean, "always when I'm hacking the objective C while wearing this fitting, using the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 controller" or similar? The controller is important as much as the action performed. PS3 old SIXAXIS sometimes acts funny in some titles where the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 don't. You can find the model name written in blue on the USB plug side of the controller how to spot it I'll save this thread so I can keep it monitored. Now, get out of bed and wear your dropsuit!
[Veteran_Dewie Cheecham] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 08:31:00 - [15] - Quote GM Unicorn wrote: Are you guys able to find a pattern in this and please post it with your comments and cosiderations? I mean, "always when I'm hacking the objective C while wearing this fitting, using the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 controller" or similar? The controller is important as much as the action performed. PS3 old SIXAXIS sometimes acts funny in some titles where the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 don't. You can find the model name written in blue on the USB plug side of the controller how to spot it I'll save this thread so I can keep it monitored. Now, get out of bed and wear your dropsuit! I'm certain I've seen it on my Dual shock 3 as well, but I may be mistaken (I tend to use my two regular sixaxis controllers, they are lighter :P) Hacking were mentioned as well, and it is rtue that I've stopped hacking even when I were still holding the (O) (and no, not because the object died or I didn't reacquire the checkpoint in time for it to go to the enemy) Something tells me that prolonged button activation and lag spikes could be a point of interest.
[Veteran_Ignatius Crumwald] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 09:35:00 - [16] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Something tells me that prolonged button activation and lag spikes could be a point of interest. This. I've often said that while using the HMG I still burst fire to "nag" the server, and I think it's because certain actions like holding down "circle" and holding down R1 drop out periodically.
[Veteran_steadyhand 08 ortis] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 10:06:00 - [17] - Quote hi just want to report i have the same problems when i snipe though its intermittent and stopped being a problem as of late but i also get the odd problem of pressing the trigger and not firing and when driving does very sluggish to pick up the direction im moving the analog stick. using what ever the stranded ps3 controler is
[Veteran_Dewie Cheecham] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 10:37:00 - [18] - Quote Just did 5 rounds (before DUST crashed) using the SIXAXIS DUALSHOCK 3 controller, and I still see the intermittent button activation drop out. And the same for button activation without being pressed (dropped a remote explosive, only to have it blow up in my face a few times. and a random un-needed reload in the middle of action where it cost me a re spawn) Using voice comms seems to make it all worse.
[Veteran_Sirulean Recluse] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 11:47:00 - [19] - Quote I use a dual shock 3 controller and have only encountered this issue once while hacking objective a, but i dont snipe or use explosives.
[Veteran_Ralpf Ralpfson] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 12:48:00 - [20] - Quote I have noticed times where the hacking thing will vanish for a split second and then be right back without me losing progress. Is that what you guys are talking about? I haven't sniped enough to run into the other issue, I have the bug where character markers aren't over people's heads which makes sniping difficult. I generally use newer dualshock controllers. My old launch controllers both have issues with the left thumbstick sometimes returning to slightly up or down, instead of center.

[Veteran_Dostya Vitja] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 14:50:00 - [21] - Quote sendeth wrote: Dostya Vitja wrote: What is GM? omg I didnt know!
[Veteran_Dewie Cheecham] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 15:24:00 - [22] - Quote Ralpf Ralpfson wrote: I have noticed times where the hacking thing will vanish for a split second and then be right back without me losing progress. Is that what you guys are talking about? That as well, but I have also on rare occasion lost the progress.
[Veteran_steadyhand 08 ortis] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 15:50:00 - [23] - Quote i get the hack problem as lot as well where it just vanishes on me and iv got to start all over agan
[Veteran_soko99] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 16:10:00 - [24] - Quote Markus wrote: ive been getting the premature fire from the charge rifle as well. sounding more and more like a bug!! Sounds like a personal problem to me.. :P
[Veteran_soko99] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 16:12:00 - [25] - Quote Grideris wrote: I have found instances where my Forge Gun will fire it's charged shot despite me not releasing the button. Guessing it's also something to do with lag because it seems to happen more often when I get lag spikes. How do you use the forge gun? So the assault is you build up by holding and then release to shoot.. but the one that can "store" the shot.. do you have to keep the button held down till you want to shoot?
[Veteran_soko99] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 16:16:00 - [26] - Quote GM Unicorn wrote: Are you guys able to find a pattern in this and please post it with your comments and cosiderations? I mean, "always when I'm hacking the objective C while wearing this fitting, using the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 controller" or similar? The controller is important as much as the action performed. PS3 old SIXAXIS sometimes acts funny in some titles where the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 don't. You can find the model name written in blue on the USB plug side of the controller how to spot it I'll save this thread so I can keep it monitored. Now, get out of bed and wear your dropsuit! I have noticed the above issues as well, I've even had it happen to me with the swarm launcher where I'm trying to lock on, but it just resets just as it's about to lock. However, I never experience that problem with the AR when I'm all zoomed it. Basically it happens with pretty much anything that requires the button held down for a while prior to shooting. (So mostly with railguns) A weird bug happened to me today on the biomass as I was hacking terminal B.. It went through the complete hack, but then it just sat there at the circle fully completed for a second.. I had to release the button and restart the hack from scratch. I've noticed it with both of my controllers and they're both the stock PS3 issue.
[Veteran_GM Unicorn] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 16:20:00 - [27] - Quote You guys are awesome! Thank you for the info so far! Keep reporting your problem and we can help DEVs in narrowing down it.
[Veteran_agitater] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 16:44:00 - [28] - Quote I have this problem when i use a wired controler, my wireless works fine but if i put my wired one in the game glitches all over the place.
[Veteran_DemonicChaos] 0	Posted - 2012.06.17 16:53:00 - [29] - Quote Ive had it stop hacking on me seems to be mostly on turrets figured was something to do with them turning but if it's not supposed to do that then yeah
[Veteran_sendeth] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 03:34:00 - [30] - Quote i have noticed my hacking symbol blinking out like i let go of the button, but then it restarts at the same place and proceeds as normal. i just thought it was doing it due to the lag and a 1 second or so grace period was given for the momentary disconnect produced by the lag. i have noticed what seems to be my sprint disengaging over and over. feels like the same thing.

[Veteran_Tuurn Wolfe] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 05:27:00 - [31] - Quote Every time I hack, the hack stops for a split second and then picks back up where it left off. When it stops, the sound stops and the bars and "HACKING" text go away but everything else stays up. It doesn't appear to affect the speed of hacking, but it happens 1-3 times EVERY time I hack anything. I use a Dualshock 3 Sixaxis and I keep it tethered while I'm playing.
[Veteran_Ren Vex] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 07:23:00 - [32] - Quote Tuurn Wolfe wrote: Every time I hack, the hack stops for a split second and then picks back up where it left off. When it stops, the sound stops and the bars and "HACKING" text go away but everything else stays up. It doesn't appear to affect the speed of hacking, but it happens 1-3 times EVERY time I hack anything. I use a Dualshock 3 Sixaxis and I keep it tethered while I'm playing. Same and same. Also the "sniping" problem, i think that is happening to me on my HMG too. On occasion I will be holding the button down to forcibly inject small pieces of metal into someones face and the gun will just spaz out. Ive always charked it up to lag but now that I read this, the problem sounds VERY similar to the scope going in and out rapidly but imagine it with the firing mechanism of a Heavy Machine Gun going on and off. It also sounds very odd, as in the rotary sound of the spinning barrel seems to go on and off too along with the actual firing of bullets.
[Veteran_Kyle Thorrin] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 11:57:00 - [33] - Quote I don't use sniper rifles much, but I've noticed the same happening when hacking stuff. I'm pretty sure it happened to me only when hacking guns. I'm using a dualshock 3 sixaxis controller and usually run around in the type A assault dropsuit, with an assault rifle (don't remamber the name out of my head now, it's not the basic one).
[Veteran_Trevak Shi] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 12:11:00 - [34] - Quote GM Unicorn wrote: Are you guys able to find a pattern in this and please post it with your comments and cosiderations? I mean, "always when I'm hacking the objective C while wearing this fitting, using the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 controller" or similar? The controller is important as much as the action performed. PS3 old SIXAXIS sometimes acts funny in some titles where the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 don't. You can find the model name written in blue on the USB plug side of the controller how to spot it I'll save this thread so I can keep it monitored. Now, get out of bed and wear your dropsuit! I know recently (i.e., last night/early morning -- roughly 0030-0130 EST) had a moment where not only did the scope come in and out on my Duoshock 3 controller while sniping, but I had a gun fight in the EU Comms Skirmish (24 player) where in the middle of a gun fight on A, my HMG fired, stopped, fired, stopped, fired, stopped and then I died all while I was feverishly holding onto the R1 button trying to cut this little assault man down with it. Yet these have not been the only issues in respects to the button interactions of the controller producing very unexpected results (i.e., sprinting and having the overhead map or the player list come up, knifing someone and having my character reload their weapon, and throwing a grenade and having the pause menu (start button related actions) come up. These have happened a various places across several maps at various times and server loads. I have switched out controllers, and did notice that one of my older ones was a little more prone to it than others, yet I have had this happen on a controller that was just purchased 1 week ago. Does this fall in with the issues of the program computer and the servers not communicating well with each other? Or is this a bad program line that is interfering with the appropriate information being related to the servers?
[Veteran_Bzeer] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 12:50:00 - [35] - Quote This is one set of bugs I'm thankful to have avoided. I haven't had any problems using the charge sniping rifles. At least not the ones described here, my only issues are 1) that players animations at extreme long distances don't always load, (a known issue) and 2) that the zoom on the sniper rifle types doesn't give the options for variable zoom or increased magnification. (Like more traditional FPS's, a game preference.) Also, I love the charge rifle, and wish there was a more advanced varient of it, to me since it seems like damage mods aren't really doing their jobs, it's the only one I've played with that ALPHA's or doubletaps other players with any real consistency.
[Veteran_Cong Zilla] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 12:54:00 - [36] - Quote Markus wrote: ive been getting the premature fire from the charge rifle as well. sounding more and more like a bug!! That sounds like a personal issue, I think they make a blue pill for that.
[Veteran_Candid Astrius] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 13:47:00 - [37] - Quote I've seen this problem as well to me it seems like the client and the server cant agree as to whether or not I'm actual pushing the button or not
[Veteran_FatalFlaw V1] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 14:44:00 - [38] - Quote I think the issue here is the lag between actions being completed and the server being able to accept the next action. Examples: -Lock on and fire a swarm launcher at something -Hit R1 again and nothing happens -If you hold it at that point nothing will ever happen, it has to be released -Complete a shot with the charge sniper rifle -Hold R1 again right after and nothing happens All of these are avoided by the player either waiting long enough to hit the button again, or releasing it and hitting it again if they did it too soon after the first action. To Fix: The "dead time" between actions should be minimized. It's either a lag issue or some other problem causing the game to think you're still busy performing an action when in fact you've completed it. If any "dead time" persists in the game, the game will need to see R1 was pressed and perform the action, meaning charging the shot, firing, targeting etc..
[Veteran_sendeth] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 16:45:00 - [39] - Quote many of the above posts state that it is happening during an ongoing event, not after one event is completed and trying to queue another event (ie, another shot)
[Veteran_Tangero Mabata] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 21:32:00 - [40] - Quote noticed the glitch as well esp when hacking sniping brings a similar problem just not that often sometimes when i go to shoot the game will freeze for a second and surprise i didn't get a headshot but this freeze glitch has also occurred sometimes when I use turrets.

[Veteran_Vrain] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 23:30:00 - [41] - Quote Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: Something tells me that prolonged button activation and lag spikes could be a point of interest. This. I've often said that while using the HMG I still burst fire to "nag" the server, and I think it's because certain actions like holding down "circle" and holding down R1 drop out periodically. This is interesting - I've noticed a significantly more 'non-hits' when R1 is mashed down than when burst firing, but have just been writing it off to hit box issues. EDIT: wireless DS3 contoller here.
[Veteran_Vrain] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 23:43:00 - [42] - Quote This may be related, maybe not. Has anybody had similar issues with L3 for sprint? I've had issues coming out of sprint when I still have plenty of stamina. Also had a problem where if L3 is pre-depressed before being moved off-centre, my character will not break into a sprint. Have to release L3, start walking, THEN depress L3 to break into a run. This has lead to much of bullets in the back. Not that I run away a lot. Well, not much, anyway. Really.
[Veteran_Hazma Dictace] 0	Posted - 2012.06.18 23:56:00 - [43] - Quote How many are using wired DS3 as opposed to wireless controllers and is there a discrepancy there?
[Veteran_Ren Vex] 0	Posted - 2012.06.19 04:56:00 - [44] - Quote Trevak Shi wrote: GM Unicorn wrote: Are you guys able to find a pattern in this and please post it with your comments and cosiderations? I mean, "always when I'm hacking the objective C while wearing this fitting, using the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 controller" or similar? The controller is important as much as the action performed. PS3 old SIXAXIS sometimes acts funny in some titles where the DUALSHOCK SIXAXIS 3 don't. You can find the model name written in blue on the USB plug side of the controller how to spot it I'll save this thread so I can keep it monitored. Now, get out of bed and wear your dropsuit! I know recently (i.e., last night/early morning -- roughly 0030-0130 EST) had a moment where not only did the scope come in and out on my Duoshock 3 controller while sniping, but I had a gun fight in the EU Comms Skirmish (24 player) where in the middle of a gun fight on A, my HMG fired, stopped, fired, stopped, fired, stopped and then I died all while I was feverishly holding onto the R1 button trying to cut this little assault man down with it. Yet these have not been the only issues in respects to the button interactions of the controller producing very unexpected results (i.e., sprinting and having the overhead map or the player list come up, knifing someone and having my character reload their weapon, and throwing a grenade and having the pause menu (start button related actions) come up. These have happened a various places across several maps at various times and server loads. I have switched out controllers, and did notice that one of my older ones was a little more prone to it than others, yet I have had this happen on a controller that was just purchased 1 week ago. Does this fall in with the issues of the program computer and the servers not communicating well with each other? Or is this a bad program line that is interfering with the appropriate information being related to the servers? Yeh thats what im talking about. That happens to me too.
[Veteran_Buzzwords] 0	Posted - 2012.06.19 05:07:00 - [45] - Quote i use a powerA airflo controller (i like the xbox stick layout.) but i only ever get this issue rarely. just barely enough that i know what people are talking about dunno if that's official or not but it seems people using "legit" controllers are getting it even worse. makes me think it's prolly not the controller, right? and for what it's worth it never gave me any trouble arming an Mcom in battlefield.
[Veteran_FangZy] 0	Posted - 2012.06.19 07:06:00 - [46] - Quote Two major errors i get is: One i can not use R1 at all and have to leave the game and come back for it to work again. Two, when i go to use a weapon. It takes a second or so to actually fire. Which I am thinking is due to lag spikes and rarely happends. I do also sometimes, Very rarely have random buttons will press. One being the option to call down something. Two switch to a different weapon<- This only happends in combat to me. Suits,equipment,weapons do not seem to matter as it does it with many of the weapons I use. I have 2 DUALSHOCK 3 SIXAXIS Official SONY controllers and 1 SIXAXIS Controller came with a older PS3 of mine. I alternate between them for charging and where did I put it reasons.
[Veteran_ETEREXX] 0	Posted - 2012.06.20 01:39:00 - [47] - Quote I am using a Sony Dualshock 3 Six Axis, Model Number CECHZC2U A1. I have two (2) which are alternated and fully charged every use.-á I have noticed extreme issues with the Sony controller specifically and only with Dust 514 with regards to responsiveness. The in-game responsiveness of the controllers is constantly / always poor no matter what my load out is or which map / area I am in. I believe the main reason is unresponsive sensitivity. Regardless what I set the sensitivity to, minute input is not registered, slight input is sluggish, and increased input is over compensated. The overall feel of the game control makes use of the controller very labor intensive. Whereas a mouse and keyboard may have more on-board settings to compensate for the sensitivity, the controllers will require better in-game support. In addition,-áI have had a host of random issues in every match most common being: -Zoom not working; requires two or more attempts to activate. -Misfires when I am not pulling the trigger. -Blank fire; nothing happens no matter how much I scream at the TV as the other guy wonders why I am not firing back as he murders me. -Zoom stays locked if I reload while zoomed in. -Sometimes the weapon turns invisible while hacking. -Sometimes while reloading the ammo gets reset back to zero upon completion of the reload. (I cannot confirm, but this might be caused due to the character sliding on uneven terrain even though I am not actively moving the character). -(I also get the hack interrupts and noticed installations change back to red if I start hacking right as someone captures it...) -Personal gripe: I am colorblind so the green / blue (?) reticles actually hinder me more than anything; I use the zoom mostly as binoculars because the actual reticle tends to look like a blur obstructing the target to me.-á
[Veteran_Ydnas Nogero] 0	Posted - 2012.06.20 01:49:00 - [48] - Quote I have these issues rarely. My thought is as the buttons are VERY sensitive, as soon as pressure dips from 100% it lets the shot (or the zoom) go. Just as you can drive slowly by partially pushing the button down, as soon as the pressure eases....


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