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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:30:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:You play Dust. A PS3 exclusivity. So you're also a console peasant :)
And if you're not playing dust anymore, then GTFO and leave these forums forever. One does not simply downgrade from PC master race to console peasant. A true console peasant is one who refuses to confess the greatness of the mater race and join the ranks. Even having a PC does not make you part of the master race but it is a start to accepting that which is true and a beginning to the strive for greatness.
This I can agree with. Yes I am for the Xbone and I do enjoy games on my PS3. However I am a PC boy at heart and the PC Master Race shall live on through my children who will learn to game on a PC before a console.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:51:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:Forever ETC wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Forever ETC wrote:
Yes I do agree we will see a decline in console development and on some users. The thing is we won't see it as rapidly as most claim. Anyways I can totally see Microsoft dropping the console market in the next couple generations or at least stepping away support from it because they can afford the loss, but Sony is completely dependent on PS ecosystem to be alive as a company.
Sony is just as stable outside of the console game as microsoft is, if not more. The playstation is just one of hundreds of pieces of hardware that Sony makes. They could just as easily switch to gaming tablets and create a PSN type system for those since they already create phones and tablets. Thats not even mentioning the software and media aspects of Sony. Currently they're giving their smartphone market another shot, they've also dropped PCs and SOE and possibly will slow their TV production. They already tried that Mobile PSN thing that you mentioned and have also shut it down. Right now I believe they said PS is their largest profit market alongside Music and Movie divisions. Edit: And their cameras of course Sony is the largest media distributor in the world, have been for a loooong time. If PS$ is anywhere near that $$ Sony and console gaming will be here for a very long time.
Fun fact: Nintendo was the first to create a PlayStation and worked with Sony. The Nintendo PlayStation was going to be both a disc based system AND a cartridge system for your old SNES and NES games. The reason why we never saw it was because Sony wanted more money even though they were getting a lot of money for it in the firstplace. So Nintendo and Sony split and now we have the Wii and the PlayStation.
So we should really be thanking Nintendo for Sony going into consoles and Sony has always been greedy.
Edit: It was also know as Famicon.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 23:16:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:
Fun fact: Nintendo was the first to create a PlayStation and worked with Sony. The Nintendo PlayStation was going to be both a disc based system AND a cartridge system for your old SNES and NES games. The reason why we never saw it was because Sony wanted more money even though they were getting a lot of money for it in the firstplace. So Nintendo and Sony split and now we have the Wii and the PlayStation.
So we should really be thanking Nintendo for Sony going into consoles and Sony has always been greedy.
Edit: It was also know as Famicon.
So Nintendo was getting carried by Sony and Sony cut them off? Definitely shows when we look at just what the Wii vs the PS3 is. The Wii is the biggest waste of a gaming computer from a once decent gaming computer maker ever.
Actually it was the other way around. Nintendo had already seen success with its NES and SNES. Sony wasn't even a console developer but focused more on tvs and such. When Nintendo came up with he idea for the PlayStation, Sony was chosen to help manufacturer it. However because of their greed theybsplit and Nintendo went with Philips for the manufacturing. So if it wasn't for Nintendo, Sony would of never gotten into the console business.
Also Nintendo was a console not a computer. And the Wii was a fail, but the Wii U is amazing and has awesome exckusives. Splatoon is glorious, LoZ is amazing, and Mario need I say more? Also last I checked, the Nintendo still makes the most popular hand held gaming system.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 23:39:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:
Fun fact: Nintendo was the first to create a PlayStation and worked with Sony. The Nintendo PlayStation was going to be both a disc based system AND a cartridge system for your old SNES and NES games. The reason why we never saw it was because Sony wanted more money even though they were getting a lot of money for it in the firstplace. So Nintendo and Sony split and now we have the Wii and the PlayStation.
So we should really be thanking Nintendo for Sony going into consoles and Sony has always been greedy.
Edit: It was also know as Famicon.
So Nintendo was getting carried by Sony and Sony cut them off? Definitely shows when we look at just what the Wii vs the PS3 is. The Wii is the biggest waste of a gaming computer from a once decent gaming computer maker ever. Actually it was the other way around. Nintendo had already seen success with its NES and SNES. Sony wasn't even a console developer but focused more on tvs and such. When Nintendo came up with he idea for the PlayStation, Sony was chosen to help manufacturer it. However because of their greed theybsplit and Nintendo went with Philips for the manufacturing. So if it wasn't for Nintendo, Sony would of never gotten into the console business. Also Nintendo was a console not a computer. And the Wii was a fail, but the Wii U is amazing and has awesome exckusives. Splatoon is glorious, LoZ is amazing, and Mario need I say more? Also last I checked, the Nintendo still makes the most popular hand held gaming system. Not being versed in the details of the thing but being very familiar with both companies I would venture that Nintendo tried pairing with Sony for their idea because Sony had probably developed some proprietary tech Nintendo wanted to use. Also, the timeline you describe is bothering me, since the Playstation predates the Wii by several years. If it was just a manufacturing thing thats a really long time for that sort of tooling issue. Handheld? So...smartphone/tablet?
Compareing thr PlayStation and the Wii was comparing modern variations of their consoles and a DS is way better than a smartphone or tablet when it comes to gaming. That evoloved from the Gameboy, again one of the best handheld gaming systems.
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:05:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Mejt0 wrote:There are better exclusives on consoles. That is all. Yet on PC there's... CS:GO The total war series Mount and blade Warhammer 40k dawn of war Insurgency Garrys mod Arma 3 Not to mention every internet browser game EVER and every mod for almost every game EVER **** game for neckbeards with no life that are willing to spend hundreds on a fake knife... also, not actually exclusive. It's playerbase on console died out for a reason. It's a **** game that feels like a bad COD4 clone with microtransactions. Alright, but its not exactly surprising that a RTS is on PC... the only real failing of controllers vs mkb is that they can't really do RTSs very well. Meh, overall. Not something I'd be proud of having as an exclusive. Warhammer is alright, but still meh. See above. Wtf is that. A "game" for 12 year olds with ADHD. So cool. About the only actually good PC exclusive you listed.
The Counter-Strike franchise pre-dates Call of Duty by 4 years (original CS was a mod of Half-Life back in 1999, CoD was realease in 2003) and it is considered one of the best FPS of all time. Also there have been tournaments for CS for years. The port didn't take because the 12 year old fan boys couldn't understand that you can't just run into a group guns blazing and expect to kill them all.
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el OPERATOR wrote:
Interesting. Can't blame Sony for not wanting to anchor to what was then already becoming an obsolete format or getting paid.
And we all loved the GameBoy. Till we saw the GameGear.
DS better be better for gaming, its competitive bracket has become crowded.
Sony wanted more money, they didn't care about the obsolete format or anything. They carried on the PlayStation without the SNES attachment but it took them another 3 years to finish devolping it. The fact that they turned down an innovative company shows how flawed they were back in the 90s.
Um last I checked Gamegear was no where near as successful as the Gameboy. Also saying or implying that tablets and phones are better for gaming is just plain stupidity.
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:21:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:
The Counter-Strike franchise pre-dates Call of Duty by 4 years (original CS was a mod of Half-Life back in 1999, CoD was realease in 2003) and it is considered one of the best FPS of all time. Also there have been tournaments for CS for years. The port didn't take because the 12 year old fan boys couldn't understand that you can't just run into a group guns blazing and expect to kill them all.
Doesn't excuse that it is still basically just COD4 Hardcore SnD with microtransactions. I don't care who did what first. At this point they are cloning eachother and themselves. They are just as guilty as the COD franchise of reguritating unoriginal shooter gameplay plastered over a middle eastern setting.
Yes but the reguritation originated from Counter Strike the Half-Life mod and was the first of its kind (excluding DOOm Quake and Wolfenstein). Technically, COD4 Hardcore came from Counter Strike as the original only had one mode until other people modded the mod to create Deathmatch, Zombies, Warcraft Mod (which was fun as hell) and many other mods.
They are not guilty if they are updating their old game with new graphics and features. That would be like saying WoW: Legion is reguritating WoW: Burning Crusade as they both deal with Illidan and the Burning Legion.
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el OPERATOR wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:
Interesting. Can't blame Sony for not wanting to anchor to what was then already becoming an obsolete format or getting paid.
And we all loved the GameBoy. Till we saw the GameGear.
DS better be better for gaming, its competitive bracket has become crowded.
Sony wanted more money, they didn't care about the obsolete format or anything. They carried on the PlayStation without the SNES attachment but it took them another 3 years to finish devolping it. The fact that they turned down an innovative company shows how flawed they were back in the 90s. Um last I checked Gamegear was no where near as successful as the Gameboy. Also saying or implying that tablets and phones are better for gaming is just plain stupidity. Sony wanted more money, ok. They also, after severing ties, were in-market with their Playstation years ahead of the Wii. Thats a good indicator of who was actually doing the work in that relationship. The point about portables is less about better and more about crowded. The more options there are, the more diluted the earnings become. So to generate the product must stand out. Personally I havent seen a game ever on the DS that I wojld buy one for. I have run games on my various phones tho. Why? Because I love gaming, own phones that I can game on and in those idle moments when a portable game would be nice all it takes is a couple swipes through the google store. And the GameGear smoked the GameBoy. Sega just did the one whereas Nintendo kept going with theirs.
Really? Then why is it people atill refer to the GB GBC and the GBA instead of Sega's GG when talking about hand held systems of the past?
Also the Wii is the most RECENT nintendo system. There was the N64 in the nineties which introduced the rumblepack and rumble features in games, Nintento Game Cube which was compatible with a GBA and had some amazing games on it then the Wii which had backwards compatability with Game Cube games, something the PS3 never had, then the Wii U which has some amazing exclusives compared to the PS4.
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Void Echo wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Mejt0 wrote:There are better exclusives on consoles. That is all. Yet on PC there's... CS:GO The total war series Mount and blade Warhammer 40k dawn of war Insurgency Garrys mod Arma 3 Not to mention every internet browser game EVER and every mod for almost every game EVER If you need mods to enjoy a game, why are you even playing it?
Some people tire of vanilla games so they mod it to add humor, horror, or even improve the look of the game. Hell there are some mods that even became games themselves (Counter-Strike, XCOM 2 (most the "new" stuff is from the Long War mod), Team Fortress 2 (Team fortress Classsic was a Half-Life Mod)). Some help improve the mechanics or even benefit the gamer without cheating or breaking the game (the mods for WoW).
Also some mods add content to the game or even fix broken mechanics. Mods are brilliant.
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Posted - 2015.09.13 05:59:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Void Echo wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Mejt0 wrote:There are better exclusives on consoles. That is all. Yet on PC there's... CS:GO The total war series Mount and blade Warhammer 40k dawn of war Insurgency Garrys mod Arma 3 Not to mention every internet browser game EVER and every mod for almost every game EVER If you need mods to enjoy a game, why are you even playing it? Some people tire of vanilla games so they mod it to add humor, horror, or even improve the look of the game. Hell there are some mods that even became games themselves (Counter-Strike, XCOM 2 (most the "new" stuff is from the Long War mod), Team Fortress 2 (Team fortress Classsic was a Half-Life Mod)). Some help improve the mechanics or even benefit the gamer without cheating or breaking the game (the mods for WoW). Also some mods add content to the game or even fix broken mechanics. Mods are brilliant. You pretty much turn minecraft into call of duty just to have fun.... you don't need to be on minecraft.
Some people like that. For me, I prefer vanilla Minecraft with the Towny server mod and Bukkit's MMO server mod. Adds a bit more to it. Also there is talks about future console games getting the ability to mod. Fallout 4 for example, and talks that when the new DOOM game comes out it may be modable on consoles. (According to rumours)
Mods are great.
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