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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:06:00 -
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People weren't mad at the news of a port.
They were mad at the news that pretty much all support for DUST would be dropped for the foreseeable future.
Hence why the only new content since then has pretty much been skins and a couple sky boxes. |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.13 01:59:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: These people are NOT inferior.
No, but their platform of choice is.
Let's face it. Most people who don't have a gaming PC is not because they don't want the awesome graphics, endless stream of mods, and buttery smooth performance.
They don't want to / can't shell out the cash to get and maintain one. Which is fine. But the simple fact is that PC will probably always be superior to consoles to anyone but casuals. |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.13 02:20:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Murder Medic wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: These people are NOT inferior.
No, but their platform of choice is. Let's face it. Most people who don't have a gaming PC is not because they don't want the awesome graphics, endless stream of mods, and buttery smooth performance. They don't want to / can't shell out the cash to get and maintain one. Which is fine. But the simple fact is that PC will probably always be superior to consoles to anyone but casuals. Superior in what way? Hardware performance is about the only way it really is. FPS is better, overall graphics are better, longevity is better (mods), overall size of the games tends to be better, and also many console games come out on PC as well but have the above mentioned benefits over their console counterparts.
I have my consoles too and play them sometimes but my PC is just leaps and bounds ahead of my PS4 and other systems. (it also cost me waaay more, so that's the primary downside to me) |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.13 17:28:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:Rouge does not deserve any of the hate he got after Fanfest 2014. Rouge does not deserve any of the hate he got after Fanfest 2014. Yea, instead of focusing it on Rouge it should instead be focused on CCP as a whole, since they're to blame for all but pulling the plug on this game.
He's just a face. |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.13 18:43:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote: Being buttmad about something that happened a year ago and more isn't going to make the game magically better.
And being optimistic about things that have never happened won't magically give this game a full dev team with a proper budget.
We're both beating the same dead horse, just different ends |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 05:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:We were mad because Rogue wasn't interested in a smooth transition. Instead he wanted to start basically completely over, and his talk of maintaing progress was surprisingly ambiguous.
This was also much reason to suspect that for months many developers who were supposed to be working on Dust were actually dedicating their time to Legion. To make things worse, many of these developers left subsequently which means that there are no longer the necessary staff to improve the game. Also with them axing WoD, and more recently throwing themselves into even more projects, it's hard to believe they're even working on Legion somewhere in the dark.
And really. With the way CCP balances games....the thought of them working on it alone in the dark is almost more terrifying then them not working on anything at all.
Basically, it seems that placing faith in CCP is kind of like placing faith in the giant spaghetti monster: it's fun, but it doesn't really net you much in the end. |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 15:45:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Meee One wrote:Rattati finds Dust community input important,Rouge doesn't. This is utter bull. Rouge is running an entire game studio, and so, no, he isn't on the forums directly himself, but he's the guy who put Rattati in charge of DUST, and is behind what Rattati is doing 110%. So was it Rouge or Hilmar that pulled the majority of staff and funds off of DUST? |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 15:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Murder Medic wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Meee One wrote:Rattati finds Dust community input important,Rouge doesn't. This is utter bull. Rouge is running an entire game studio, and so, no, he isn't on the forums directly himself, but he's the guy who put Rattati in charge of DUST, and is behind what Rattati is doing 110%. So was it Rouge or Hilmar that pulled the majority of staff and funds off of DUST? Just so you know, Dust has been primarily funded by Eve Online. That is entirely irrelevant to the fact that DUST currently has next to no budget or staff |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:17:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Personally, I'm pretty sure when they finally announce a port it'll come out that pushing PC was Himar's idea, same as how aggressively they pushed Incarna at his behest. u wot? An interview with CCP Rouge...CCP Rouge wrote:GÇ£New Eden deserves a shooter on PCGÇ¥. CCP Rouge wrote:GÇ£Yes, of course PC is a target because thatGÇÖs our primary platform for Eve Online,GÇ¥ Not saying PS4 isn't a target now, but that PC was Rouge's vision for this game... which is wise. Shame a port will never come to pass. So we finally have an answer, ccp is singing a death sentence on their relations with console players.... good to know... after all this I doubt anyone would ever get valkyrie, you can say goodbye to console platforms forever now ccp. I absolutely hate that Playstation is the only gaming system that doesn't have a game like halo... why the hell can't we have our own space/sifi/future/non earth game... why At least we'll have No Man's Sky, not that it fits the bill you're looking for.
But still. |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:34:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:He posted, then had the post, and the quote with the post, deleted.
Not quite
jett it wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: ... it's pretty clear that right now Rattati is the only one that can handle this place. CCP Rattati, Lord of the Rings. Ahahahahahahah LOLOL ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) Or maybe not. Apparently he posted that video though |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:04:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:You know, you are the reason people hate pc gamers. Your elites mentality is that of a ****. If you didn't expect everyone to live according to your standards people would embrace pc more but with all you assholes on pc, nobody likes dealing with *****
Your not giving pc gaming a good enough image for people to adopt if you treat console gamers like that Who gives a **** about the people that play PC, or console for that matter?
All that matters is the end product. For me, it was worth saving for over a year to get mine initially just so I could play things like Starcraft 2, heavily modded Minecraft, and later a heavily modded Skyrim (among plenty others). I'm not very tech savvy and spent way more than I needed, and had some pretty bad hardware mishaps along the way after my warranty, but it was still totally worth the extra performance I get out of my games.
The only person who can offend you is you. Who cares if people act high and mighty, you're the only one who can make you bothered by it. Ignore them and do what's best for you. |
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:07:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Void Echo wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:
Please extrapolate why you believe FPS`s should only be on consoles.
Baring in mind all of the best and early online FPS games that I can think of were on PC (Quake, Unreal Tourney etc..)
Please also bare in mind that the controller for consoles is so terrible for the job of playing a shooter 9/10 games give you aim assist. Using aim assist is like using stabilisers as a kid, only console users don't seem to grow out of them.
Console controls are far easier and more organized for me than keyboards. Not to mention its easier to hack pc It's debatable. I will say this. In all of my years playing Battlefield games on PC (I started back on 1, played BF2 and BF2142, then Bad Company 2 then BF3 and now BF4) In ALL of that time I can honestly say hand on heart that I have only ever seen 2 hackers / cheaters. To put that into context I have seen way more blatant cheaters on DUST in the space of less than 3 years. Cloak glitch - Remember those handful of guys that had this down to a T and were able to shoot cloaked for quite some time? Glitching deliberately behind walls and cover, using RE`s in broken parts of the levels to detonate all.... the list really does go on. I've never played a PC game where it was hacked, but Ive only had my PC 5 years now and I actually play a lot of my games offline.
As for consoles, all I have to say is Halo 2 and Borderlands. Those games were hacked on consoles so bad it was basically unplayable online. Such a drag. |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:15:00 -
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Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:Murder Medic wrote:Borderlands. Those games were hacked on consoles so bad it was basically unplayable online. Such a drag. I was at a friend's house when he was handed a modded item in BL. It caused his console to freeze and had to be restarted. From that point on, even after dropping the item, his PS would freeze when playing Borderlands. He had to uninstall/reinstall to fix it. So lol @ only PC has hackers. Yea I had to stop inviting randoms cuz they would spawn in and shoot infinitely spawning rockets that would crash my system :/
The first time I ever saw a mod in a game was in Halo 2, on the big team battle map that was snowy with a big base at either end. I was running base defense on top of our outer wall when I saw a Scorpion tank cresting the center ridge. Suddenly it started shooting its main cannon as fast as an SMG. My whole screen was shaking and I saw a warthog fly through the sky, shooting plasma burst shots rapid fire down on us.
It was a painful year and a half from that point on |
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Murder Medic
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:21:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:'My kind' is what happens when PC master race meets troll in a primarily console peasant environment (in this case dust)
I don't expect you to like me, i just expect you to accept that consoles aren't where this game should be. I would love to have the game on PC but honestly I think that would be a bad move for CCP. It would likely not work out well for Eve numbers and leave them with a divided player base which would not be good considering the struggles they are facing now and the ones they are going to be facing in the next couple of years as direct competitors move in. I think their moves to diversify over various platforms using their initial IP was a great one. Hopefully Dust being the one that started it all will make it through to the end and not just be the one they learned lessons from. I admit that expanding the market was a good move by CCP, however there is no other sci-fi FPS on PC that has as much depth and lore as dust, and definitely none that are connected to an MMO like eve. If CCP want to expand their market, they don't need to come to consoles to do it. There are plenty of people on PC that would jump at the chance to play this game as the vision that was originally intended, however that vision is only possible on PC. But CCP has shown pretty clearly they don't intend to pursue a deep link between their games. Just look at Valk. It's totally stand alone from EVE, it has nothing to do with it other than lore and assets.
PC is going to have some incredibly harsh competition in the coming years, especially for space FPS games. I think CCP has really shot themselves in the foot since most EVE players think a EVE FPS is stupid, and most DUST players think PC is stupid. Unless they go to PS4, the game will very likely still remain niche and loosely linked to EVE, even if the original vision somehow magically came to fruition. |
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Posted - 2015.09.15 00:55:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: Video game players with superior attitudes are always spouting **** like that.
Fix'd |
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