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Aiwha Bait
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Posted - 2015.09.13 15:38:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:While skipping over the "port naow" posts looking for something worth reading in GD, it occurred to me that the lowest moment in Dust's history -- the infamous Rouge Wedding -- was in fact nothing short of a port announcement!
More content. Sexier graphics. Better framework. Fewer middlemen. Presumably less lag. Larger potential playerbase. Etc ...
... and we freakin' crucified the dude.
If CCP Rouge waltzed in today and announced the very same thing he announced in 2014, would we not hail him as hero and savior?
http://biomassed.net/2015/05/15/a-change-in-legion-status-maybe/ *looks at "port" announcememt and takes a shotgun to it*
"Bait is too adorable to stab" - Zaria Min Deir
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Aiwha Bait
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Posted - 2015.09.13 15:42:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:While skipping over the "port naow" posts looking for something worth reading in GD, it occurred to me that the lowest moment in Dust's history -- the infamous Rouge Wedding -- was in fact nothing short of a port announcement!
More content. Sexier graphics. Better framework. Fewer middlemen. Presumably less lag. Larger potential playerbase. Etc ...
... and we freakin' crucified the dude.
If Rouge waltzed in today and announced the very same thing he announced in 2014, we'd hail him as hero and savior.
Amiright? No, the reason we "freakin' crucified the dude" was because he announced that they were basically ditching not only our community but all of our progress in Dust and moving to PC. None of the Round Tables where they confirmed that our progress would be kept and that this was actually aimed at the current playerbase were streamed on Twitch. Therefore the only thing seen by all of us watching the stream and not in attendance in Iceland was that we were all being ditched in exchange for the PC crowd while the Twitch chat was spammed with "PC MASTER RACE" and how all of us who currently play the game never deserved it in the first place. THAT is why we all got pissed. CCP Rouge being the director of Eve TV and proprietor of the streaming service itself is clearly a justifiable reason why the man is at fault. /sarcasm You got pissed at the one guy who dared show his face despite the poor planning on behalf of people that are not him. The one guy who had the balls to actually go up at the beginning of the Eve Keynote to play damage control the next day. S'okay, though, because I did too later on. Got banned for it, even. The hatred toward CCP Rouge was ill-placed and knee-jerky. Players couldn't - and still can't, apparently - understand the orchestra that is behind the scenes and will fault developers they know and see for the actions of the ones they don't. Learn from that experience. Holy crap- has the whole CPM been granted some detailed info and insight that the rest of the dust playerbase has To? Maybe that is exactly the case. When did you all get this terrific opinion of Rouge? What has he done for dust? The only blue team that we have ever heard, over the past year, of doing anything positive for this game is Frame, Ratatti and crew. And crew has never included Rouge. If that guy has contributed to this game in any positive way then spell it out.
Our patch notes are marked from both CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge, IIRC. Just saying. The man talks to us, just not directly.
"Bait is too adorable to stab" - Zaria Min Deir
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Aiwha Bait
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Posted - 2015.09.16 04:16:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Respectfully Mr Bait,
When someone talks TO you it is, by definition, direct.
Of course there are people doing things with DUST that we never hear of or from. Hilmar comes to mind.
But these mystery people do not talk to us and any opinion we form of them is founded upon what we know.
So it is surprising to hear from multiple CPM2s about how great and contributory CCP Rouge has been.
And, again, I will gladly suspend and reform my negative opinions if and when someone with DIRECT knowledge and insight lists some of those contributions.
How is my position unreasonable in this matter?
Sorry for being two or three days late. Got lost in my notifications.
I never said your position was unreasonable. I actually agree with you on some points. What you want is a very reasonable request.
(This is the part where I say your post is unreasonable)
I think you're being unreasonable when you say that these "mystery people", I assume the actual programmers, don't talk to us. Why should they? Is it their job to do that? No. Their job is to program, make art, music, etc. It is the job of CCP Frame, as Community Manager (I think he is), and CCP Rattati, as executive producer?, to talk to us about the state of the game.
The " mystery people" do their talking in the Monday meetings when they report to Rattati and Rouge. It would be nice if we got a monthly update, or biweekly update, about some of the things discussed in the Monday meetings.
"Bait is too adorable to stab" - Zaria Min Deir
Writer and Editor for Biomassed
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