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jak cutter
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:49:00 -
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CCP you really need to finish that meta level cap because the number of protos in pubs is just at a insane amount here lately.
and when you play 8 matches that have nothing but proto it's kind of annoying it's a pub not a fw or a pc PLZ finish that meta level cap soon.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:52:00 -
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Lately?
I've been running pure proto for years brah.
Git gud?
Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:53:00 -
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jak cutter wrote:CCP you really need to finish that meta level cap because the number of protos in pubs is just at a insane amount here lately.
and when you play 8 matches that have nothing but proto it's kind of annoying it's a pub not a fw or a pc PLZ finish that meta level cap soon.
Lately?
Stonehenge is younger.
There are four main races in DUST514: The Amarr, bla, bla, and bla.
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jak cutter
Direct Action Resources
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:57:00 -
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well i havent been playing as long as you all and i'm not a good solo player so it's hard for me just too be fighting proto all the time and hard on my wallet of isk, i'm only adv in my suits but if people want too run proto thats there choice guess i'll just deal with.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 13:35:00 -
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jak cutter wrote:well i havent been playing as long as you all and i'm not a good solo player so it's hard for me just too be fighting proto all the time and hard on my wallet of isk, i'm only adv in my suits but if people want too run proto thats there choice guess i'll just deal with.
no its your choice to get stomped by proto. i can tell by you saying that your advanced in multiple suits. you are suppose to pick one thing one role when you first start playing and focus on taking that to proto. plus the weekly skill cap was raised since i was a new player.
they don't want no SmOkE. AEs diplomat
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bane sieg
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.09.12 14:07:00 -
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Proto is the new advanced
Officer stomping pubs is where it's at
Logi mko/gko/ako, Sentinel ako/mko, Commando mko/ako/cko, Scout gko/mko, Assault mko/ako/gko/cko.
Among other things
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:06:00 -
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jak cutter wrote:CCP you really need to finish that meta level cap because the number of protos in pubs is just at a insane amount here lately.
and when you play 8 matches that have nothing but proto it's kind of annoying it's a pub not a fw or a pc PLZ finish that meta level cap soon.
Truthfully I think it's more officer stomp, but yes the proto stompers do outnumber them. |
Loyal Glasses
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:10:00 -
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CCP is going to implement Meta lock just not now.
Glasses of the Loyal Variety
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"The dead are notoriously unproductive "
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rizan baig
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:13:00 -
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To me it seems that most Proto is just Apex fitted with a proto weapon. It's really cheap like that. I have a freedom HMG on my Dominus and the whole suit costs just 47,000 (PC use only though)
Darth-Carbonite for CPM2!
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:23:00 -
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Proto has alwsyd been in pubs.
My jaw drops everytime I see an officer weapon, and with it probably, an officer suit. |
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:25:00 -
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If it makes you feel better, I only use Standard. Of course, I also don't have the SP for anything else right now.
Hooray for APEX vx.1s!
It's happened once or twice someone couldn't pay the price, and I'm afraid I had to rake 'em 'cross the coals.
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Vlad Rostok
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:55:00 -
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I normally only run ADV, but I have a low mu, I think. Biggest difference I noticed recently was upgrading the warbarge ammo/damage bonus one level. |
axis alpha
Neural Union
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Posted - 2015.09.12 16:07:00 -
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Man I remember when I ran proto 24/7 for like a year and no one complained like they complain now.
Now I only proto with my AV. Man I should use proto today.....and not my AV.
Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu.
Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo
Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.09.12 16:09:00 -
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Meta lvl... Yeah and people cry about searching for battle now just wait til there's three tiers lol |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 16:16:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Meta lvl... Yeah and people cry about searching for battle now just wait til there's three tiers lol
If we had 30k people on at one time, matchmaking would be glorious.
With so many people in the pool, really balanced teams could be created.
Not to mention all the game mode variation that could be implemented.
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.09.12 16:26:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Meta lvl... Yeah and people cry about searching for battle now just wait til there's three tiers lol If we had 30k people on at one time, matchmaking would be glorious. With so many people in the pool, really balanced teams could be created. Not to mention all the game mode variation that could be implemented.
Every looked at the servers... 3000 people at one time is high.
I have 16 suits and 10 weapons all equipment maxed and vehicals are on the way up.
How do you think I'll do in low meta  |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.09.12 16:31:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Meta lvl... Yeah and people cry about searching for battle now just wait til there's three tiers lol If we had 30k people on at one time, matchmaking would be glorious. With so many people in the pool, really balanced teams could be created. Not to mention all the game mode variation that could be implemented.
Peak average never saw 6000, so this was always a fool's errand. the game should have been utterly redesigned around a smaller player-base two years ago. What you see now is finished product, in decline.
There are four main races in DUST514: The Amarr, bla, bla, and bla.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.09.12 17:58:00 -
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It's always been like that. Then came the ever so rare officer. Then came player trading and the rich and/or slick got tons of officer gear.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 18:43:00 -
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jak cutter wrote:CCP you really need to finish that meta level cap because the number of protos in pubs is just at a insane amount here lately.
and when you play 8 matches that have nothing but proto it's kind of annoying it's a pub not a fw or a pc PLZ finish that meta level cap soon.
Do you realize that if people never have to worry about playing against anything other than proto they have no reason to buy boosters or AUR gear because they would never have to leave mlt matches?
Meta level matches will most likely cut revenue by 30% or more but that is a total estimate. The one thing that is positive is meta level caps mean more wait times and less money. SOUNDS GREAT!!!
++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.12 18:45:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Lately?
I've been running pure proto for years brah.
Git gud?
^^^^^
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:01:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:jak cutter wrote:CCP you really need to finish that meta level cap because the number of protos in pubs is just at a insane amount here lately.
and when you play 8 matches that have nothing but proto it's kind of annoying it's a pub not a fw or a pc PLZ finish that meta level cap soon.
Do you realize that if people never have to worry about playing against anything other than proto they have no reason to buy boosters or AUR gear because they would never have to leave mlt matches? Meta level matches will most likely cut revenue by 30% or more but that is a total estimate. The one thing that is positive is meta level caps mean more wait times and less money. SOUNDS GREAT!!!
Vets in mlt matches... In squads with 15-35% more armor, shields, dampening, scan precision, weapon damage, fitting space, suit bonus, shield regen, module efficiency, ammo, rep range, and then there's vehicle skills lol. Yep totally gonna change the game.
Three different que's to break up the tiny player base we have... Brilliant. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:06:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It's always been like that. Then came the ever so rare officer. Then came player trading and the rich and/or slick got tons of officer gear.
Saw a pic of someone with just over 100 billion isk a while back. Kinda explains why I only see some players in full officer gear in pubs. I have a billion from running pubs, if I had been part of the big corps on a payroll, running anything but officer/full proto would be silly. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:09:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:deezy dabest wrote:jak cutter wrote:CCP you really need to finish that meta level cap because the number of protos in pubs is just at a insane amount here lately.
and when you play 8 matches that have nothing but proto it's kind of annoying it's a pub not a fw or a pc PLZ finish that meta level cap soon.
Do you realize that if people never have to worry about playing against anything other than proto they have no reason to buy boosters or AUR gear because they would never have to leave mlt matches? Meta level matches will most likely cut revenue by 30% or more but that is a total estimate. The one thing that is positive is meta level caps mean more wait times and less money. SOUNDS GREAT!!! Vets in mlt matches... In squads with 15-35% more armor, shields, dampening, scan precision, weapon damage, fitting space, suit bonus, shield regen, module efficiency, ammo, rep range, and then there's vehicle skills lol. Yep totally gonna change the game. Three different que's to break up the tiny player base we have... Brilliant.
Lets not forget that then newbies would not even be blaming proto they would just be pissed that for some reason this guy has on the same suit but is destroying him. I can see that going GREAT for npe.
People that run proto are nothing more than scapegoats that push newbies to spend money out of frustration. Sorry guys thats not going away.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:14:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:jak cutter wrote:well i havent been playing as long as you all and i'm not a good solo player so it's hard for me just too be fighting proto all the time and hard on my wallet of isk, i'm only adv in my suits but if people want too run proto thats there choice guess i'll just deal with.
no its your choice to get stomped by proto. i can tell by you saying that your advanced in multiple suits. you are suppose to pick one thing one role when you first start playing and focus on taking that to proto. plus the weekly skill cap was raised since i was a new player.
Cuss there is not a "supposed to" path in this game, and his concern is valid. Lots of guys like you are really just bad players with better STUFF. This game is about SP and gear. Unfortunately, the number of players has dwindled to nothing so if you are new you are stuck facing guys like you with short **** issues that feel proto is a way to compensate for it. Bottom line is the match making and payout system need to be fixed, and K/D need to disappear to make the game better for new players. I run my proto in PC matches, but I don't in pubs. We are mercenaries and in truth losing money in pubs makes you a much worse player than the guy going negative K/D and still making ISK.
So don't tell a new guy he has to proto something then move on to something else. In truth if the meta level issue was fixed it would let guys like him explore the game and hopefully stay. Besides realize he is starting in Expert mode, you came up in easy mode. Even a year ago the amount of average SP and ISK value of gear per active player has skyrocketed. You did not see whole teams of officer gear like you do now in FWs. So, If you want to help squad with this guy, give him some ISK, or play like you're not a short **** in pubs. Don't tell him its his fault some guys are dicks an he should just quit playing, becasue that's all you did. |
Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:59:00 -
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Advanced/Apex can be compared to Proto, easily.
With meta locks, people would get rekt just as often.
Though the only thing that matters me would be queue times.
Modern society is lacking in empathy
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.12 23:20:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Advanced/Apex can be compared to Proto, easily.
With meta locks, people would get rekt just as often.
Though the only thing that matters me would be queue times.
Advanced/Apex are a far cry from proto, and an even farther distance from Officer. The meta locks would not prevent some people from having bad games, but it would stop 4 man squads with a total meta level higher than the entire enemy team from running off all the new players to the game. |
CallMeNoName
PIXXXIE
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Posted - 2015.09.12 23:26:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:no its your choice to get stomped by proto. i can tell by you saying that your advanced in multiple suits. you are suppose to pick one thing one role when you first start playing and focus on taking that to proto. plus the weekly skill cap was raised since i was a new player.
Said like a true AE tryhard.
"nu u only spcialis in one suit or els you decied to be stompt"
Unless you are missing a large portion of your brain, you'd realize that not even 10% of players get to the weekly cap, because people like you make it pure hell with your q syncing ISK/SP farming.
Also, if someone first starts playing, how do they know exactly which suit or role to take to proto without playing them all first?
"Boy are you not all there in the head" - Jett Itt
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.12 23:40:00 -
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CallMeNoName wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:no its your choice to get stomped by proto. i can tell by you saying that your advanced in multiple suits. you are suppose to pick one thing one role when you first start playing and focus on taking that to proto. plus the weekly skill cap was raised since i was a new player. Said like a true AE tryhard. "nu u only spcialis in one suit or els you decied to be stompt" Unless you are missing a large portion of your brain, you'd realize that not even 10% of players get to the weekly cap, because people like you make it pure hell with your q syncing ISK/SP farming. Also, if someone first starts playing, how do they know exactly which suit or role to take to proto without playing them all first?
Don't even give him credit for being an AE try hard. In just over a year he has been in 22 corps. WTF?? |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:05:00 -
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why don't you just pull out proto too and join in the fun?
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jane stalin
free dropships for newbs
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:16:00 -
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Have most stompers changed their tactics in domination?
It seems they let their enemy have the objective so they get more kills, They don't charge the objective straight away
to prevent early rage quits.
I suppose most people playing a shooter focus on kills so you they would argue you are supposed to stomp, but I am simply not interested in stomps, I want close fair games
It would not bug me so much if saying this makes other posters give ridiculous responses like "what I am supposed to do not kill them"
or " I squad up with good players and we put on proto suits and want a close fair game"
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:21:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Advanced/Apex can be compared to Proto, easily.
With meta locks, people would get rekt just as often.
Though the only thing that matters me would be queue times.
Apex is my proto. Why would I run scout suits that cost more than all my useless blueberries(who all run milita) total suit costs combined when I can run a apex that costs me 10k isk and does everything a 29k isk adv scout loadout can and have free remote explosives and a cloak?
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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maeth-01 2501
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.13 02:30:00 -
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jak cutter wrote:well i havent been playing as long as you all and i'm not a good solo player so it's hard for me just too be fighting proto all the time and hard on my wallet of isk, i'm only adv in my suits but if people want too run proto thats there choice guess i'll just deal with.
That's just the way it is with this game.... it does get easier after a while, then you finally get your turn to do it.... it's a cycle
Laugh, and the world laughs with you;Weep, and you weep alone
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.13 06:45:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:Have most stompers changed their tactics in domination?
It seems they let their enemy have the objective so they get more kills, They don't charge the objective straight away
to prevent early rage quits.
I suppose most people playing a shooter focus on kills so you they would argue you are supposed to stomp, but I am simply not interested in stomps, I want close fair games
It would not bug me so much if saying this makes other posters give ridiculous responses like "what I am supposed to do not kill them"
or " I squad up with good players and we put on proto suits and want a close fair game"
The best way to stomp is to let the other team hold the objective as long as they want while you flank camp or roof camp them. They usually lose the point to your blueberries after they drop below half clones and you proceed to win anyway some of the time. That means they can farm more kills by not redlining the other team. That lets you camp the uplinks, CRUs, and the objective instead of just trying to kill the few that stay after a redline. I see assholes doing this all day in pubs. The crowd with the stupid replies you speak of are the reason this game does not add new players, but kids and short dicks are the majority of players left on here. Mention removing K/D tracking and ask for a single way it improves the game and see who comes out of the woodwork to defend it. Those same guys pulling the **** I just mentioned are the only ones that you will hear from. |
BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.13 06:58:00 -
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maeth-01 2501 wrote:jak cutter wrote:well i havent been playing as long as you all and i'm not a good solo player so it's hard for me just too be fighting proto all the time and hard on my wallet of isk, i'm only adv in my suits but if people want too run proto thats there choice guess i'll just deal with.
That's just the way it is with this game.... it does get easier after a while, then you finally get your turn to do it.... it's a cycle
No its not a cycle. Most of us here started in easy mode. If he is new he will have months of negative KD and low SP payout games while he fights guys with a much greater SP and ISK gap than most of us faced. if you started 2 years ago then everyone was relatively similar with only a small amount of no life outliers. The skill cap helped that. Now the amount of officer/proto gear is through the roof (every game I see them) and the amount of guys that he is paired up against with 70mill SP is multitudes higher than what anyone faced even starting a year ago. So no its not a cycle. Its a broken system that needs fixed. This guy is posting here in frustration that just means in a couple weeks he leaves, and with some of the answers these dumbass have given him I can't say I blame him. Its a game and if he is not having fun he should move on instead of being cannon fodder for someone else's ego stroke.
THERE ARE NO NEW PLAYERS STICKING WITH THIS GAME FOR A REASON.
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jane stalin
free dropships for newbs
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Posted - 2015.09.13 09:00:00 -
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The number of people playing solely to camp uplinks has increased. When this happens Spawn as sentinel to get rid of your links and then leave the game, it is more fun to do other things. |
CommanderBolt
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.13 11:57:00 -
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Proto in pubs... try officer in pubs.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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