I guess around 350-500.
Screw \/\/horing logis.

they die 10-20 times per match even proto stomp scubs still die 2-3 times per match I highly doubt its that high unless they've been here since beta

\/\/horing logis die 0-3 times a battle.
Where did you get your numbers and "that high" thing?

\/\/horing logis die 0-3 times a battle.
Where did you get your numbers and "that high" thing?

Besides why would a person be applauded for saving the team 20 - 30 clones and costing the other team just as many by keeping people in the field fighting. Obviously K/D is the only thing that matters in this game.

Screw you if your participation in a fight causes you to die.

most logis don't even carry around needles anymore and a lot of the ones that do choose leaching on to heavies rather then helping anyone up

the wannabes of today rarely actually help out the team and they have no direct correlation to the other team losing clones as they aren't doing the killing in most occasions even if you say they field a fighting force that is mostly false as the people dying are the ones feeding the other team wp's in most occasions

most matches I play I rarely if ever even see anyone carrying a needle even if there's 5-6 logis carrying rep tools and even when there are needles around you aren't likely to see anything other then basic

you as a logi have no excuse to be feeding the other team as you put yourself in a support role not a fighting one so yes screw you for trying to do someone elses job leave that to the assault players and the other roles focus on what you are supposed to be doing and only engage when it is necessary usually giving cover fire or clearing an area before reviving someone

if you didn't realize my question was about wp to kd both you and mej brought up other issues that have nothing to do with the topic on hand whine and complain if you want to but that doesn't change the fact that you really have no case to argue when all the evidence is stacked against you

a logi needs to stay on the field and support their team as much as possible if you die then you aren't doing any good to your team, if you want to be a slayer or get some kills then why are you a logi to begin with

I have no issue with you playing however you want to but the facts are there and this is a team game so whatever you do is my business and everyone elses because I don't want to get stuck with scrubs that can only farm wp by leashing on to an armor tanker and wont even revive someone when they call for help and when they do its right in front of a fire fight causing that person to die again thats not helping anyone, I dont care if you think you revived 150 clones if all those players died right after you revived them in the first place you aren't really helping

its great to have a good logi heavy combo but what good does it do to the team if only those players are benefiting while everyone else is getting slaughtered

Its not that hard to simply rep up a heavy to full health then pull out your weapon and start killing people from a supportive position not the front line, no logi should ever go negative by doing this especially if they are where they are supposed to be and that's with the team where they are needed most

I can understand that you might play differently and that's fine that doesn't give you any excuse to be a burden to your team die 20 times revive 20 people but if those 20 people died right away then you didnt help your team out much at all and you just cost the team 40 clones rather then 20 if you had done your role correctly

feel free to argue any way you want, but you have to admit that there are more useless logis out there then there are useful ones if that wasnt the case then matches would never end due to clone count

feel free to argue any way you want, but you have to admit that there are more useless logis out there then there are useful ones if that wasnt the case then matches would never end due to clone count

Does the other team not directly lose clones thanks to the heavies staying alive longer and soaking up more fire as oppose to just dying as soon as a few guys focus fire on them.

In my dominus sentinel I can generally come out ahead in a 2 v 1 fight against anything that is not a proto heavy. With even a basic logi on my back I can stand up in a 4 v 1 fight assuming the same.

How can you argue that in that case the logi did not directly cause the other team to lose more clones?

As far as what it does for the team is it gives them a better chance of not being slaughtered by thinning the pack of redberries and drawing the bulk of any focused fire.



You obviously have a very set definition of how logis should work and I am sure it does very well for you if you squad with people that do just what you are talking about but that does not make it a model that everyone in the game has to live by to be correct.

Around 190 last I checked

Edit: would prolly be better if I hadn't blown myself up when I ran out of ammo so much... Also do it just so someone can't kill me sometimes lol.

let me put it this way

a heavy with an hmg does about 600 damge per second in their optimal range, most rifles do about half as much going at about 400-500 if they have the profile advantage and some damge mods or with proficiency and wb bonus, say your being repped by a single logi with max skills but only using std so in this case a min logi to take advantage of the bonus to rep tools

that logi will be repping you at 100 or so hp per sec while they would be more useful in any situation if rather then continuously rep you they simply help you fight and rep you when they fight is over or revive you if need be

in a 1v4 situation there is no way you would survive against good players if you do it is more likely due to them being unskilled in which case they would've dropped even faster with some support fire from the logi

I've seen too many times logis standing around repping instead of helping the heavy out and I take full advantage of this going in with a SG or another high alpha weapon and destroy the heavy only to have the logi just stand there taking their sweet time to even switch out to use their weapon, I am not saying it is you that does this but I know damn well its the majority of the player base especially proto scrubs

skilled players know better then to do crap like that and its fairly evident In PC what works and what doesn't, so sure if you are a min logi and you are standing at a reasonable distance where it is better to rep them then help them fight thats great good job but if you are just standing there digging your nose for gold while repping anyone with high armor then sorry but I dont want you on my team

and mind you those proto logi heavy combos usually know what they are doing as that's pretty much all that they do I'm not saying they aren't useful especially if they do help out the rest of the team in a way that is beneficial, I am talking about those players that come out in first place with 6k wp and 15 deaths on a losing team when everyone else on the team has less then 1k wp and over 10 deaths each

just like you say that you cost the other team the same amount of clones you saved on your side there more then likely can be a better logi on the other side actually doing something helpful negating anything you think you did

a heavy can get 40+ kills but a logi can simply deny those clones dying by reviving them making your logi rep heavy combo useless

don't get me wrong here repping allies is a good thing but leashing for wp is pathetic, in fact there needs to be a system in place where in if someone you killed gets revived you get no reward denying kills needs to be a thing so that more people pay attention and actually play the game right, if everyone played like I did then there would be no way for a logi to revive their allies unless they managed to kill me before I made sure to double tap to destroy the clone, something which is rarely if ever done

??? you could pretty much say that about every class

I am not that useful as a logi but I would be less useful as another class, I am simply not that good at the game.

Yes because obviously when engage I be sure to stand perfectly still and never weave in and out of cover to be sure that all enemies can apply maximum DPS to me. What kind of inconsiderate ass would do things like that?

Surely it is also impossible to terminate clones or kill the logi that comes and tries to pick them up. I thought it was said that none of them carry needles anyway?


Personally I would much rather have my logi consistently locked on to offset enemy DPS rather than him trying to do 2 jobs and risking one of us being left to fend for our self.

I guess around 350-500.
Screw \/\/horing logis.

209.7865232975
let's call it 210
higher than I would've thought

Use a calculator it's 113

how does 209 become 113?

1463261wp/12916 kills = 113

mines 94 whats yours?
got the idea from a herecles porch video and I'm wondering what everyone stats are

Lol I was checking wp/kills

how does 209 become 113?