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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

How is it fine with people that you can just sit on hives and chuck core grenades at people .?. is that alright with you CCP .?. oh yeah , you don't play your game and it must be because you allow it .

People talk about scrubs and such but that's not scrub like ???

There should be a max limit of 6 for each carried , use those six and that's it .

One hit wonders with instant knockout abilities and you people want all grenades to function like that .?. I read the threads and see the post , seriously .?. now that's no gun game and lazy , on top of that ... those things are abused so much , like people just sitting on hives just chucking with less effort then running or strafing .

Just doesn't make sense to me but they will come to defend that action , like there is a defense for it or like it should be alright .

It's abused , shows little skill and you have people talking about snipers .?. there should be a limit to max carried , that means one cycle of restock from a supply depot or hive should be allowed .

Max carried , cuts abuse .

Another scrub tactic eliminated .

I like where this is going however I think the number should be moved up to
eight instead of six per nano hive and that people should only be allowed to
refill one grande per a nano hive. This would encourage people to use other
nano hive and cut down on people eating through nano because they want to
spam grande.

Adding a grande bonus to Caldari logi might help it make a nice come back.
This would need to be looked at very closely before implementing it. I was think
their nano hives could dish out for more grades. A max of four more maybe.

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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:28:00 - [1] - Quote How is it fine with people that you can just sit on hives and chuck core grenades at people .?. is that alright with you CCP .?. oh yeah , you don't play your game and it must be because you allow it . People talk about scrubs and such but that's not scrub like ??? There should be a max limit of 6 for each carried , use those six and that's it . One hit wonders with instant knockout abilities and you people want all grenades to function like that .?. I read the threads and see the post , seriously .?. now that's no gun game and lazy , on top of that ... those things are abused so much , like people just sitting on hives just chucking with less effort then running or strafing . Just doesn't make sense to me but they will come to defend that action , like there is a defense for it or like it should be alright . It's abused , shows little skill and you have people talking about snipers .?. there should be a limit to max carried , that means one cycle of restock from a supply depot or hive should be allowed . Max carried , cuts abuse . Another scrub tactic eliminated . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.11 22:25:00 - [2] - Quote Actually I was just thinking about this earlier. I think the real solution here is to slightly increase the cook time. This would leave the spammers more vulnerable while generally not affecting tactical users. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
Mikel Arias Challengers 506 198	Posted - 2015.09.11 23:39:00 - [3] - Quote I actually have been thinking how they are like the REs were before. Yes, they are OP in my opinion, however we should see stats about them first. I would like them to have a reduction in the impact radius, or for the damage to fall after 3 meters. Something like that so it wont keep being one throw and one kill.
Starlight Burner Black Screen Adaptation. 499	Posted - 2015.09.12 00:27:00 - [4] - Quote I had already suggested months ago that Explosives should only be restocked @ Supply Depos. CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 707	Posted - 2015.09.12 01:07:00 - [5] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: How is it fine with people that you can just sit on hives and chuck core grenades at people .?. is that alright with you CCP .?. oh yeah , you don't play your game and it must be because you allow it . People talk about scrubs and such but that's not scrub like ??? There should be a max limit of 6 for each carried , use those six and that's it . One hit wonders with instant knockout abilities and you people want all grenades to function like that .?. I read the threads and see the post , seriously .?. now that's no gun game and lazy , on top of that ... those things are abused so much , like people just sitting on hives just chucking with less effort then running or strafing . Just doesn't make sense to me but they will come to defend that action , like there is a defense for it or like it should be alright . It's abused , shows little skill and you have people talking about snipers .?. there should be a limit to max carried , that means one cycle of restock from a supply depot or hive should be allowed . Max carried , cuts abuse . Another scrub tactic eliminated . I like where this is going however I think the number should be moved up to eight instead of six per nano hive and that people should only be allowed to refill one grande per a nano hive. This would encourage people to use other nano hive and cut down on people eating through nano because they want to spam grande. Adding a grande bonus to Caldari logi might help it make a nice come back. This would need to be looked at very closely before implementing it. I was think their nano hives could dish out for more grades. A max of four more maybe. The Mistress of Massdrivers Looking to trade Nomad Assault for Serpent Scout. Check out my trading trade for more info
RKKR WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2015.09.12 15:23:00 - [6] - Quote Vehicle users are going to cry if you can toss 6 AV-nades at once. Restocking AV-nades only at the supply depot or (too slow on a hive) and you won't see people running after HAV's.
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.09.13 06:19:00 - [7] - Quote Because using the ammo in a box is OP now? smh... btw, there's already some major limits to nade resupply from hives, unless some recent ninjafix pooched them. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 2	Posted - 2015.09.13 10:23:00 - [8] - Quote I don't see any Core spammers that get kill-counts worth mentioning. Modern society is lacking in empathy
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 640	Posted - 2015.09.13 11:36:00 - [9] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: How is it fine with people that you can just sit on hives and chuck core grenades at people .?. is that alright with you CCP .?. oh yeah , you don't play your game and it must be because you allow it . People talk about scrubs and such but that's not scrub like ??? There should be a max limit of 6 for each carried , use those six and that's it . One hit wonders with instant knockout abilities and you people want all grenades to function like that .?. I read the threads and see the post , seriously .?. now that's no gun game and lazy , on top of that ... those things are abused so much , like people just sitting on hives just chucking with less effort then running or strafing . Just doesn't make sense to me but they will come to defend that action , like there is a defense for it or like it should be alright . It's abused , shows little skill and you have people talking about snipers .?. there should be a limit to max carried , that means one cycle of restock from a supply depot or hive should be allowed . Max carried , cuts abuse . Another scrub tactic eliminated . CCP Made hives used more nanites to lessen gernade spam.Used to be worse.How many gernades restocked per hive type? If a Logi wants to put expensive hives on more than one equipment slot and he gets only 2 nades from each hive.And he gets killed a few times .I don't see anything wrong with this.It has cost him something in isk.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.09.13 11:47:00 - [10] - Quote Give me a better way to deal with blobs. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati

Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 640	Posted - 2015.09.13 11:59:00 - [11] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Give me a better way to deal with blobs. Used to be a Heavy with a HMG to deal with blog.Not anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9djuORzi9rU
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 67	Posted - 2015.09.13 15:08:00 - [12] - Quote Been here since Mordu's Trials Proud to say I've never once skilled into Core Noob Grenades
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.13 15:33:00 - [13] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: How is this fine with people ??? * Class Parity? * HP > All Else? * Queue Times? * Turbo Controllers? * Rooftop Camping? * EWAR Mechanics? * GalLogi Permascan? * Armor v Shield Interplay? * Permahardened Blaster HAVs? * Veteran / Newbro Performance Gap? * Framerate Drops & Gameplay Instability? * Players leaving battle or otherwise not participating? Grenades? No, this doesn't really bother me. I can think of a dozen bigger problems than grenades.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.13 16:37:00 - [14] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: How is this fine with people ??? * Class Parity? * HP > All Else? * Queue Times? * Turbo Controllers? * Rooftop Camping? * EWAR Mechanics? * GalLogi Permascan? * Armor v Shield Interplay? * Permahardened Blaster HAVs? * Veteran / Newbro Performance Gap? * Framerate Drops & Gameplay Instability? * Players leaving battle or otherwise not participating? Grenades? No, this doesn't really bother me. I can think of a dozen bigger problems than grenades. I'm always talking about these issues , one of the reasons I keep getting banned and post deleted in the / from the forums . I'm well aware but it's one of the problems that's easily solvable like some who had some great idea's , I mention something so that others would come to contribute ( much like you just did making CCP aware that there are bigger issues ) to tackle issues because it seems like that's the only way to get things done around here , to garner support for changes to known issues because most just ignore it . Like the Rattati thread about the next hot fix and what it should consist of , most just talked about wants and needs , when this man is asking you what should they focus on next . That was the time for everyone to stand up and mention performance but most talked about other issues instead of coming together in a common cause , one that's killing the game . Yeah , we need more vehicles ( I say that too ) , racial parity and such .. along with balancing mechanics and other factors but if the game isn't running worth while , no matter how many additions you make , it would do no good when you can't even get in a game , or get kicked , or having to deal with bugs and glitches . Those who were the first responders had some great ideals that could be melded into a fixture for this issue of core spam , it shouldn't be a factor but it's a no skill hack that like many other issues , need to be resolved . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.13 16:45:00 - [15] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Because using the ammo in a box is OP now? smh... btw, there's already some major limits to nade resupply from hives, unless some recent ninjafix pooched them. The only thing that I've noticed is a delayed time for the refill , you know it's not constant , you have to wait longer when your standing on a hive but if you have multiple hives , there really isn't much of a delay and you can keep rolling in grenades until you've killed enough people , how many does it take to kill three people standing together .?. not many , just one for the most part . I just believe you shouldn't be able to camp a hive for these one hit wonders . That's broken to me . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.13 17:18:00 - [16] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: That was the time for everyone to stand up and mention performance but most talked about other issues instead of coming together in a common cause , one that's killing the game . This cannot be resolved by a hotfix. it requires a full patch cycle to accomplish no matter how the devs take a shot at it if and when they do. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.13 18:07:00 - [17] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Like the Rattati thread about the next hot fix and what it should consist of , most just talked about wants and needs , when this man is asking you what should they focus on next . That was the time for everyone to stand up and mention performance ... I agree with you on all points but this one. Rattati didn't ask "what should we work on?" The obvious answer is performance. I'm pretty sure he was asking our opinions on what to hotfix, hence the title of his thread "Next Hotfix".
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.09.13 19:20:00 - [18] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Because using the ammo in a box is OP now? smh... btw, there's already some major limits to nade resupply from hives, unless some recent ninjafix pooched them. The only thing that I've noticed is a delayed time for the refill , you know it's not constant , you have to wait longer when your standing on a hive but if you have multiple hives , there really isn't much of a delay and you can keep rolling in grenades until you've killed enough people , how many does it take to kill three people standing together .?. not many , just one for the most part . I just believe you shouldn't be able to camp a hive for these one hit wonders . That's broken to me . And I disagree just because its a viable use of the resupplies that're there as well as one that already has had adjustments made to it to keep it within reason. Check it- You're calling somebody anchoring themselves to one spot (a hive), not able to shoot (nade cooking), who's throwing accurate nades with these whack nade/throw physics broken. OK. If that same individual were anchored in position spamming MD rounds out, would you consider that broken equally? I ask because even though theres a damage difference between the two the RoF of the MD easily dwarfs the resupply delay of hives, as well as being a deeper reload pool to draw from. Its also in many ways a more difficult counter, you can only kill the MD spammer wheras your nade spammer can be mitigated by a flux/nade/MD round wiping his hive. I'm not defending the behaviour per se, but the proposal of an artificial limit bothers me. That nades already take so damn long to resupply as it is bothers me. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.09.13 19:23:00 - [19] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: How is this fine with people ??? * Class Parity? * HP > All Else? * Queue Times? * Turbo Controllers? * Rooftop Camping? * EWAR Mechanics? * GalLogi Permascan? * Armor v Shield Interplay? * Permahardened Blaster HAVs? * Veteran / Newbro Performance Gap? * Framerate Drops & Gameplay Instability? * Players leaving battle or otherwise not participating? Grenades? No, this doesn't really bother me. I can think of a dozen bigger problems than grenades. If I have ever wished I could ascii art, it is now. That quarter pipe of qq needs a dude handplanting or something. Don't be offended I called it the quarter pipe of qq, there's obviously some issues in need of fixing listed there. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Summa Militum Art.of.Death Smart Deploy 736	Posted - 2015.09.13 19:26:00 - [20] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: How is it fine with people that you can just sit on hives and chuck core grenades at people .?. is that alright with you CCP .?. oh yeah , you don't play your game and it must be because you allow it . People talk about scrubs and such but that's not scrub like ??? There should be a max limit of 6 for each carried , use those six and that's it . One hit wonders with instant knockout abilities and you people want all grenades to function like that .?. I read the threads and see the post , seriously .?. now that's no gun game and lazy , on top of that ... those things are abused so much , like people just sitting on hives just chucking with less effort then running or strafing . Just doesn't make sense to me but they will come to defend that action , like there is a defense for it or like it should be alright . It's abused , shows little skill and you have people talking about snipers .?. there should be a limit to max carried , that means one cycle of restock from a supply depot or hive should be allowed . Max carried , cuts abuse . Another scrub tactic eliminated . If you remove all Proto Gear from Public Contracts then Core Locus Grenade Spamming would go away almost entirely.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.14 01:17:00 - [21] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Like the Rattati thread about the next hot fix and what it should consist of , most just talked about wants and needs , when this man is asking you what should they focus on next . That was the time for everyone to stand up and mention performance ... Agreed on all points but this one. Rattati didn't ask "what should we work on?" The obvious answer is performance. I'm pretty sure he was asking our opinions on what to hotfix, hence the title of his thread "Next Hotfix". I understood the concept , I'm just stating the moment that he asks what were looking for should have been the time to make the underlining issues known . Balancing matchmaking , glitches and bugs and such as your list mentioned ... even though that wasn't on the agenda and like Breakin said , it would have taken a while but I even seen a thread about that and the fact that some said they were willing to go threw the pains of such as long as it increased the performance and rid this game of the issues that's making it even harder to play at times . I'm just saying that the community had the mans attention regardless of the situation and some of these issues like rails ghost firing and not registering damage , getting terrain glitches and falling threw maps are fundamental problems that should be addressed . Can anyone tell me otherwise , that this game would probably redraw some of those who left as well as increase in numbers , if these cases were solved ? I for one believe it would make this game a hell of a lot easier to play . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Four Horseman Tactical Agency 2	Posted - 2015.09.14 01:20:00 - [22] - Quote I for one don't want to turn this into another performance thread , I just wanted to bring up core spam thread number whatever , I've seen a few of them and I guess just wanted to add on to the mix , it is a issue . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .


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