Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.09.09 23:00:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:But that's not their purpose. They are supposed to be used to delay death long enough to win the engagement. It's the same way in Eve. Only in Eve there are ways to stop the reps. We need that in Dust. Ok you beat me. I'll look into what ways to stop reps. So when you say in EvE they can stop reps? Is it a way to temporarily disable them from working or it's just a good counter to the repair system?
There are a number of ways to stop reps in EVE, although none of them are reliable, and not all will work in all situations. In sub-capital engagements, Electronic Counter Measures (ECM) are a simple way to deny reps, ECM Jammers are the most direct way, as they have a chance to deny the target ship a chance to lock on, but are easily countered through fitting ECCM modules. The next form of ECM that's effective is a Sensor Dampener, these work by lowering the lock range, and increasing lock time of the targeted enemy ship.
Capacitor Warfare is another, far more reliable way to break reps, but is more easily countered. To engage remote repair systems in eve, a ship has expend energy from its capacitor. Energy Neutralizers and Nosferatus take away energy from enemy ships capacitors, however ships also can have energy transfers, which on logistics vessels send more energy than they take to activate (allowing for "Capacitor Chains" to be formed, effectively making Cap Warfare useless against them).
Against a competent Logi Wing Commander, there are no ways to reliably deny reps in Eve...which many consider to be overpowered, as then the only effective counter becomes Alpha Striking the target off the field (Also note: in eve, a single Logistics Cruiser can out-remote repair the DPS from multiple enemy DPS Battleships...and Carriers are even better at Remote Repair than Cruisers.)
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.09.12 00:46:00 -
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as much negativity that's been directed at you OP, and as much as I disagree with your suggestions, you do bring up a legitimate point on the WP gain of Repair Tools and triage points, and the effectiveness of lower tier Rep Tools/Suits in gaining those WPs. To what degree this is an issues (or if it is even an overall issue) remains the subject of debate. I personally think that if indeed this is an issue, it lies not with the efficacy of the Repair Tools, nor even necessarily with the lack of ability to stop the repair tools, but rather with the way in which Triage Points are awarded. It is possible that a re-examination of how much repairing should net repeat Triage points is necessary (and maybe even how much WP triage should provide).
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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