DUST Search - Noobs in SF

IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:

Not seeing an exploit, doesn't sound like this is something that can be manipulated easily, nor controlled easily seeing as to do it over and over your squad can't change.

You're also suggesting this is something that others can do - this was a one-off example of what *can* happen every now and then - I believe the OP actually said it was random. Why don't you test what percentage of squad-found games you can play across ten battles that are low-mu (if you can even measure which are the low-mu ones) before talking about plugging holes (lol @ double entendre BTW)

And if others started doing it? Well now you got a 3 "noob" / 1 vet squad on each side do you not? Now the cool fight for the noobs with their vet member pulling officer weapons and showing what is do-able became more strategic, coz now you got the same squad on the red team.

I'm reading about a cool story here, involving some happy newer players who were wowed by possibilities. The fact that some of us who've been around a long time's first instinct here is to say that this is an ego-stroke is a ucking pity.


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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 14	Posted - 2015.09.10 02:53:00 - [1] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: This makes me think that O.H is not just a group of O-stomping game killers. Im not sure if I enjoy the worldview consequences of humanized opposition, but I enjoy the fact that you acted like a good person should and mentored those who would otherwise eventually ragequit. Are you serious? This guy intentionally joined a Low Mu squad via squadfinder and proceeded to field the most broken item in the entire game against Low Mu opposition. Good person?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 14	Posted - 2015.09.10 03:51:00 - [2] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: ... yet here people are making a huge deal of it Let's assume your heroic tale and tales like it inspire others to follow in your footsteps. What do you think would happen to the Low Mu queue? I do think it a big deal that we protect our newbros, and I think that this hole should be plugged ASAP.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 14	Posted - 2015.09.10 12:19:00 - [3] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: It's been a while since I took a training squad out. I know what I intend to do after work. Better than mindlessly grinding matches if you get ones that listen and cooperate. Honestly I read the post as less of an ego stroke and more a story of what we need to see more of in order to retain more new players. Those players that were gadping and going "woooow" are more likely to gut out the early hell months precisely because they saw what they become later if they gut it out. They also see what it's like to have one of the walking nightmares in any game mode actively assisting THEM directly rather than hitting them like a bulldozer on a house of cards. So rather than call tebu gan out for an ego stroke, I'm going to golf clap and follow the example again. We may disagree routinely on things, but this is an activity I can find no fault in even if he is ego stroking. Bluntly I could give a f**k less if he is or not. Results and NPE enhancing behavior is only good for the game. Let's all line up and help out in the Low Mu queue! Newbros don't need good fights or balanced sides. Newbros need inspiration! And what better to inspire them with than our Officer Gear and Proto HAVs? Smh. This doesn't end well, gentlemen. And it shouldn't be happening. One-man wrecking crews dominating Low Mu matches won't inspire anything other than a lack of confidence in CCP.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.10 13:17:00 - [4] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Not seeing an exploit, doesn't sound like this is something that can be manipulated easily, nor controlled easily seeing as to do it over and over your squad can't change. You're also suggesting this is something that others can do - this was a one-off example of what can happen every now and then - I believe the OP actually said it was random. Why don't you test what percentage of squad-found games you can play across ten battles that are low-mu (if you can even measure which are the low-mu ones) before talking about plugging holes (lol @ double entendre BTW) And if others started doing it? Well now you got a 3 "noob" / 1 vet squad on each side do you not? Now the cool fight for the noobs with their vet member pulling officer weapons and showing what is do-able became more strategic, coz now you got the same squad on the red team. I'm reading about a cool story here, involving some happy newer players who were wowed by possibilities. The fact that some of us who've been around a long time's first instinct here is to say that this is an ego-stroke is a ucking pity. It's my understanding that this hole is easy to exploit. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that one vet is permitted into every Low Mu match. He is expected to "coach" and "inspire" his side from the comfort of a Madrugar gv.0. Now put yourself in the opposition's newbro shoes. You're fresh out of the Academy. You see a tank camping a point and mopping up your blue dots. Of course, you're curious and you get close enough to get insta-gibbed. You respawn in your Starter AV fit. Others do the same. You watch amazement as your team is decimated by a single player, all the while his tank absorbs one AV volley after another. Are you inspired by his awesomeness? I probably wouldn't be. If this were observed more than once, I definitely wouldn't be. I'd think to myself, "Self, this ***hole and his tank have no business being in here with us going 20/0 every match. If he did belong here, then the game would've provided us with the tools necessary to kill him. Either this guy is cheating, or the people who make this game don't know what they're doing."
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.10 15:22:00 - [5] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Afipem by my understanding ... It makes perfect, practical sense to me that High Mu players should be pewpewing one another in the High Mu queue rather than wrecking face with officer gear and proto tanks in the Low Mu queue. We apparently don't see eye-to-eye on this point. That's fine.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.10 16:30:00 - [6] - Quote Can't say I've ever seen Maken Tosch pull a 23/0 while showing newbros the ropes. Maybe he's doing it wrong. Do you think most D Uni trainers field officer gear and proto tanks when they train?