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HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:12:00 -
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I can understand some new bros but I just saw a.e and con carne doin it. Had they not been running full Proto/officer plus Proto scans it might not have been so bad but Jesus don't they got a pc to do? Not to mention a top ten all time player doing it? |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:27:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I can't understand newbros, since they don't know how... Or what 'queue' actually means in dust terms.
Feeds the troll
Using a team chat channel and 2 or more squads hitting search at the same time then making sure the all get the same battle and are on the same team. 8 plus organized people have an enormous advantage from shared passive scans, using suits that complement each other, 20% extra wp plus commissions, and actually working together instead of hoping the blueberrie next to you is ready for that swarm of guys about to run around the corner ( most likely he's gonna be a newb with no passive scans in a starter suit and will face away from them as they round the corner. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:32:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:He is top 10 because he always runs with an 8 man proto squad spamming scans and covering his ass like good dogs. Let him play solo versus these kind of squad and watch him ragequiting every single battle as he'll realise he isn't that good.
Actually he went 24/8... I was surprised I expected better. Tho the guy with him most the time ran...I know ( because he killed me ) was running a ratti suit, galags, and a bons went 34-2. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:39:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:This is why there needs to be a solo only mode so we don't have to face these tryhard scrubs.
I haven't played ambush forever I absolutely hate it and if there was no squads... It's all I'd play.
Well over 2 years playing this game and I've always thought organized pub stomps have been the reason this game is not MUCH more popular. Several hundred new accounts are made each day and since they changed it so you couldn't give away Isk until you hit level 2 loyalty you can't just say it's people creating them just to send isk to their main destroy and repeat. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:03:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I can understand some new bros but I just saw a.e and con carne doin it. Had they not been running full Proto/officer plus Proto scans it might not have been so bad but Jesus don't they got a pc to do? Not to mention a top ten all time player doing it? LMAO Us, Q Syncing with Carne?! No but seriously, we rarely ever q sync because we don't want to make battles too easy. The answer is simple, both squads by coincidence got into the same battle and everyone knows that both Carne and us rarely runs anything below proto. Get over yourself, it's called circumstance, not q syncing. EDIT: Most of the time when people q sync pubs they're placed on opposite sides. EDIT 2: When we do q sync, we only do it within corp, and no one else. Also, when we q sync pubs we play the match even if we are opposite teams, ESPECIALLY if we are on opposite teams.
Play some Dom right now and you'll see it, they're on the same team every time all afternoon.
Only an idiot can't see what side their on before the match starts. And two top 35 all time players on the same team from different corps coincidence... You must be joking.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:19:00 -
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Whenever people see multiple people from the same corp they just give up it's pathetic.
Two examples of an EOM screen that should never happen... EVER
http://imgur.com/hq9EEQE http://imgur.com/MXHP2R6
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:31:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:So what you're really trying to say is that it's the matchmaker's fault combined with the cowardice of 90% of the Dust playerbase? Because I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Matchmaker prolly does work but doesn't account for squad advantage, and if the high mu players leave it causes a major disadvantage for the team I.e. 3-4 100 mill sp players leave then that team is handicapped by at least that much exp.
I have almost 140 million sp and top the leaderboard a lot it's not coincidental its versatility. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 23:01:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So what you're really trying to say is that it's the matchmaker's fault combined with the cowardice of 90% of the Dust playerbase? Because I agree with that wholeheartedly. Matchmaker prolly does work but doesn't account for squad advantage, and if the high mu players leave it causes a major disadvantage for the team I.e. 3-4 100 mill sp players leave then that team is handicapped by at least that much exp. I have almost 140 million sp and top the leaderboard a lot it's not coincidental its versatility. I never said you topping the leaderboards was a coincidence. I've played with you before and I know you're one of the best players in this game.
Nicest thing ever said to me on the forum thanks.
Since I play solo 95% of the time or more. I think I'm just versatile.
I also think that pub stomping using q-sync's is why this game never gained popularity, kept vets grouped up due to the advantages, and why new players don't stick around. As long as there is no solo mode like ( shuddering just to say it ) C.O.D. Which is very popular and has nothing on this game, I think it will eventually die. Tho without a port to a better platform so day that is needless to say.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 23:04:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:who dafuq wants to hear about pub match wineing. and how would a american corp and japanese corp Q sync together. most times if you try to Q sync a pub you will wind up on opposing teams. AE does like to Q against its own corp in pubs to fight each other. i see all sorts of weird OP teams that the screwed up matching sometimes throws together. this is why they give you the leave battle option. i was in a squad of 2 today and they put us on a team with 4 players vs 16.
Didn't see those pics I posted I guess |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.06 23:43:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:who dafuq wants to hear about pub match wineing. and how would a american corp and japanese corp Q sync together. most times if you try to Q sync a pub you will wind up on opposing teams. AE does like to Q against its own corp in pubs to fight each other. i see all sorts of weird OP teams that the screwed up matching sometimes throws together. this is why they give you the leave battle option. i was in a squad of 2 today and they put us on a team with 4 players vs 16. Didn't see those pics I posted I guess i see pics of pretty empty battles on both sides with Randoms. how is that a Q sync?
They left out of boredom. That's how I ended up alone
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.07 00:17:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:be aware that you are playing a team based online multi player shooter. your lucky you don't play planet side where 100 tryhard members of 1 clan come stomping right through your section if you are not prepared. any game that has a clan system is not going to be fun for rebellious solo players or new players. the whole point to this is join a clan and stop crying about fighting organised groups. this is the oldest argument in the book. but you got to ask yourself what can you change about the situation. do you think big corps will stop stomping cause you asked? do you think CCP will fix the stomping if you ask? or can you group up with your own friends and stomp back? kind of the point in a war game right?
Still on a team regardless of whether or not your in a squad.
I heard planet side sucks.
And if the community all agrees that something has to big of an advantage then yes cop does do somthing... Eventually |
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Posted - 2015.09.07 00:20:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So what you're really trying to say is that it's the matchmaker's fault combined with the cowardice of 90% of the Dust playerbase? Because I agree with that wholeheartedly. So those in big name corps that do this are not cowards ??? Who's more the coward in the scenario ??? Random players who have no intention to act in this manner or those who's intention from the jump , is to act in tis manner ??? Edit : I guess we all have opinions in this instance but there's only ONE truth . Not sure if you agreeing |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.07 01:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So what you're really trying to say is that it's the matchmaker's fault combined with the cowardice of 90% of the Dust playerbase? Because I agree with that wholeheartedly. So those in big name corps that do this are not cowards ??? Who's more the coward in the scenario ??? Random players who have no intention to act in this manner or those who's intention from the jump , is to act in tis manner ??? Edit : I guess we all have opinions in this instance but there's only ONE truth . Not sure if you agreeing I'm saying that the people that act in this manner use any excuse imaginable and at the same time try to throw guilt on the people that don't agree with them and it's counterproductive for the growth and health of the game , now if your in agreement with that then I guess were in agreement . I'm looking for solutions to the mess that this game is and to keep ignoring them like they don't exist doesn't help , we need to fix the functionality of the game , the attitude of some in the community that act like this is their platform to fashion the game they way that they want to , this is not EVE even though their connected , it would be no exaggeration to state that most of the polluted nature comes from EVE players that are still fundamentally mad that Dust isn't on a PC and it's on a console , why not be glad that the audience is growing for the game and company of CCP , now you could have more people playing EVE , giving more to CCP in hopes that the product would get better but no , that couldn't happen . I'm not saying that all are this way but there are many that are and that have that " PC Master Race " mentality .
I do agree... And as far as porting, I honestly don't care what it ends up on but I do think EVENTUALLY it will need it. So in ccp speed terms like in a year or two.
I am convinced squads give a huge advantage and we need a game mode without it. I also think a lot of vets would not like it since there would be no way to almost always win. If a corp went into a PC with no game plan and no com's against equally skilled players there is no way they would win. There is no argument to that.
I would like a level playing field where the only advantage was skill. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.07 03:37:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:you are ******** to think that you would be able to change the mentality of people playing a online game. dirty tactics are used in every single multiplayer game from redline sniping to spawn camping to full teams of clans stomping your face in. the developers wont change that. complaing so every player will be nice wont change that. your only option is to adapt yourself you cant change other people. half the players don't even speak english and the other half don't care about mercy or being nice or if this game makes money or if its ported. you cant change the world around you but you can change the way you look at things. me personaly i grab my nutz and deal with the problem. i fight against teams of Q sync corps and win. i fly up to high ground and kill the campers. i fly in the redline and kill the snipers. if my squad of 2 ain't powerful enough to beat a enemy Q sync then i come back next round with a bigger squad and stomp back. complaining is for the weak life is about action.
I hate redline snipers but their easy to avoid and just time consuming to deal with.
Spawn camping is easy to avoid. Only idiots let it happen more than once per round.
Stomp squad wouldn't happen in pubs if pubs didn't have squads. Just pubs! Factional and pc remains the same.
I'm trying to address the reason why this this game could be better with a very easy change.
Sounds like you like it the way it is because you benefit from it. |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.07 17:47:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Feeds the troll
Using a team chat channel and 2 or more squads hitting search at the same time then making sure the all get the same battle and are on the same team.
I always assumed that was how it was done because I could not think of a sophisticated way of doing it, That depresses me because it means if the squads get put on different teams they all quit, this causes problems if two squads are on one team and one squad is on the other,
...you can tell before the round starts |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.07 22:21:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:jane stalin wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: ...you can tell before the round starts
??? How do you know anything before the deployment message? and once you have the deployment message the teams are decided. For Fac war you can check if you are on the same team before you deploy but the teams are already decided, scotty might fill the gaps but you cannot be sure they are confused and don't understand how the system works. while it is possible to Q 2 squads together on the same team it is very rare and not worth the effort besides redline stomps are boring. 9 times out of 10 the squads will be put on different teams and that is fun cause you get to fight against your own corp. but really what is happening is match making is FuBar ever since CCP tryed to change it. the player base is to small so match making seems to just throw lopsided teams in battle. i understand players don't like faceing big corps in pubs but really most corps are looking to run into other big corps to slug it out.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
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Posted - 2015.09.07 22:30:00 -
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2-3 full squads vs. random's shouldn't happen tho. |
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