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Mirun Hirute
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.02 06:34:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:We will make sure to have up-to-date thread of all the known issues for every following build. That should save all of us some headache :)
That should be amazing. It will make everything so much easier for us and yourselves (hopefully). |
Templar1
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.07.02 08:13:00 -
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Templar1 wrote:wow this is funny one thing i took from this after only reading the first 2 paragraphs of the first post was windge windge windge the way i look at it is its a beta compared to the first beta build ( ill call it V1 ) this one has vastly improved on it some one correct me if im wrong with this post but yea
please note i did only read the first 2 paragraphs upon reading the rest i feel a bit stupid now but hey thats what you get for trolling eh :) |
[Veteran_Card Drunook]
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Posted - 2012.07.02 12:27:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:We will make sure to have up-to-date thread of all the known issues for every following build. That should save all of us some headache :)
Thank you. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.07.02 12:36:00 -
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To Grideris and Nova Knife:
In your responses to the OP, you both come off as sounding condescending. Worse yet, you've both interpreted the original post as a complaint, which it quite obviously wasn't.
The OP went out of his way to explicitly point out the the only thing he was asking for was improved forum feedback. Furthermore, the issue he specifically mentions, a regularly updated issue/response sticky is eminently reasonable. It's so fundamentally basic to good developer/player communication that it should have been part of CCP's forum communication strategy from day one.
I take my hat off to the OP, who was admirably gracious in response to you guys, and who actually took the care to read and respond to what you had posted. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.07.02 12:42:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:We will make sure to have up-to-date thread of all the known issues for every following build. That should save all of us some headache :)
Sweet. Nice save, Frame. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
789
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Posted - 2012.07.02 12:55:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:To Grideris and Nova Knife:
In your responses to the OP, you both come off as sounding condescending. Worse yet, you've both interpreted the original post as a complaint, which it quite obviously wasn't.
The OP went out of his way to explicitly point out the the only thing he was asking for was improved forum feedback. Furthermore, the issue he specifically mentions, a regularly updated issue/response sticky is eminently reasonable. It's so fundamentally basic to good developer/player communication that it should have been part of CCP's forum communication strategy from day one.
I take my hat off to the OP, who was admirably gracious in response to you guys, and who actually took the care to read and respond to what you had posted.
I do apologize to anyone who feels I was being condescending. I generally take great pains to stay as well informed about the inner workings of Dust514 as possible, and "parrot" what I know to help others stay informed as well. My intention was to tell the OP where and how he could glean most of the same information and feedback from the devs as I and others do. The IRC is a place to get the chance to chat live with devs, hearing what they are working on, participating in brainstorms about what we'd like to see in upcoming features, and even help them out in confirming/pinpointing bugs. As far as feedback with/from Devs goes... the IRC is truly the place to be. That was the point I was trying to make.
The forums are often cluttered and when a big issue or thread arises it is not uncommon to see a CCP post. But with the sheer amount of clutter on the forums, It is understandable they do not post in every thread. Even now OP, they have seen your feedback and said they will try to fulfill your request as best they can :) |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.02 13:07:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:To Grideris and Nova Knife:
In your responses to the OP, you both come off as sounding condescending. Worse yet, you've both interpreted the original post as a complaint, which it quite obviously wasn't.
The OP went out of his way to explicitly point out the the only thing he was asking for was improved forum feedback. Furthermore, the issue he specifically mentions, a regularly updated issue/response sticky is eminently reasonable. It's so fundamentally basic to good developer/player communication that it should have been part of CCP's forum communication strategy from day one.
I take my hat off to the OP, who was admirably gracious in response to you guys, and who actually took the care to read and respond to what you had posted. I do apologize to anyone who feels I was being condescending. I generally take great pains to stay as well informed about the inner workings of Dust514 as possible, and "parrot" what I know to help others stay informed as well. My intention was to tell the OP where and how he could glean most of the same information and feedback from the devs as I and others do. The IRC is a place to get the chance to chat live with devs, hearing what they are working on, participating in brainstorms about what we'd like to see in upcoming features, and even help them out in confirming/pinpointing bugs. As far as feedback with/from Devs goes... the IRC is truly the place to be. That was the point I was trying to make. The forums are often cluttered and when a big issue or thread arises it is not uncommon to see a CCP post. But with the sheer amount of clutter on the forums, It is understandable they do not post in every thread. Even now OP, they have seen your feedback and said they will try to fulfill your request as best they can :)
Understood and appreciated. The OP is in irc, reads the forums, and is obviously well informed and working for the greater community. As am I.
The irc is not an official channel.
Who asked for responses in every thread? Nobody in this thread. So why do you bring it up? Not helpful.
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RPGio
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.02 13:12:00 -
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The IRC beta channel is quasi official. Discussions about NDA-Topics are officially permitted, the channel frequently has CCP personnel online. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.07.02 13:34:00 -
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RPGio wrote:The IRC beta channel is quasi official. Discussions about NDA-Topics are officially permitted, the channel frequently has CCP personnel online.
I'm not going to argue against this, but these forums are ALSO official, and should be given some of the same information.
Even if it's an "after the fact" transcript of the IRC discussion, and there's little to no developer involvement, it's poor form to have an official forum without providing information there in at least a relatively timely manner.
But all in all, this beta is a LOT better managed than most betas I've been in previously. Although most betas I've been in previously were run by Ubisoft, and are part of the reason I'm currently boycotting that company, so... not the best example. LBP2 beta was very well-managed, though, and this stands fairly well against it. |
Counting Wizard
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.07.02 13:52:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:Yeah, just to put this in perspective: Free game, in beta. You're acting far too entitled given either of those, much less both. Take a break, watch a movie, or just let it go for tonight and see how things are running tomorrow. It'll do wonders for your blood pressure.
These forums are terrible to read and I wish all of you would just quit posting. The amount of information-less ****posting about inane and petty feelings is just stupid.
To make this post more constructive I'd like to add my own thoughts about CCP's handling of the community. We testers aren't getting paid, and how we feel and think about this game is going to substantially shape its future. CCP, please increase the quantity and quality of communication between us; right now everything feels like a one way street and we can't tell if anyone is listening. If you want testers to continue testing and the beta community's opinions about the game to improve you need to give us substantially more feedback throughout a week of testing, otherwise when the NDA lifts the public is going to find out what your testers really think about the game.
My suggestions are more frequent content-filled devblogs or just having a good active devpost stickied every day/week. |
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RPGio
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.06 05:32:00 -
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I recommend you "have a chat with CCP" and join us on the IRC BetaChannel (officially NDA approved). You will find devs and gms regularly there as well as some other very well informed sources like grideris or nova. |
Traynor Youngs
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
287
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Posted - 2012.07.06 14:30:00 -
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RPGio wrote:I recommend you "have a chat with CCP" and join us on the IRC BetaChannel (officially NDA approved). You will find devs and gms regularly there as well as some other very well informed sources like grideris or nova.
A little dose of respectful tone wouldn't hurt them either. |
Maffia- Thug
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
62
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Posted - 2012.07.10 23:50:00 -
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RPGio wrote:The IRC beta channel is quasi official. Discussions about NDA-Topics are officially permitted, the channel frequently has CCP personnel online.
Sorry, I must of missed this somewhere........where is this IRC beta channel located? And, how do I get in? |
Suanar Daranaus
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2012.07.11 20:30:00 -
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Forums Veteran wrote:As an example, CCP CmdrWang was on IRC about an hour ago giving us a primer on what is to come in the next build and such! It's easier (And better) for them to do these things live because they can actually interact with the players in a more informal, personal level and people can ask them questions or give more direct feedback.
To me, that's far better dev feedback than forum posts. I'll make a summary post later about what was discussed, so as not to derail your topic!
Hey Boss, Not everyone has the time to do the IRC thing. I for one come to the FOURMS to get my info. Sometimes its a little late but it gets here. I too am an EVE player and I have to agree with the intent of the original post. Just asking for more Community. Which CCP is a leader/part of. Not bitching, moaning, or flaming here. I just agree with the post.
In Rust We Trust ! |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.07.26 12:14:00 -
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Maybe check out this thread and have a thought about it...
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Jonquill Caronite
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.07.26 12:22:00 -
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Actions speak louder then words... I'll wait for two more updates, and with three separate examples of how CCP is handling this closed Beta I'll cast my judgement, until then I'm relatively impressed with responsiveness compared to other companies... MORE is always better though, but I'm not going to throw a fit or rage because I've only got above average when I could have exemplary. |
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